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Main Paineframe posted:They're not going to find him guilty of big crimes and then say "well he's 76 years old and eats Big Macs for every meal, so we're not going to actually sentence him to anything". This is definitely cart-before-horse, but would Trump go to ADX Florence if convicted, given how high-profile a former President is?
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fishing with the fam posted:Just taking a poo poo, reading about Iran's military capabilities. This case so far appears to be path of least resistance, i.e. Trump was too loving stupid to just give the documents back but otherwise didn't have a nefarious purpose in mind.
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Jun 9, 2023 21:40
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Name Change posted:This case so far appears to be path of least resistance, i.e. Trump was too loving stupid to just give the documents back but otherwise didn't have a nefarious purpose in mind. Yeah agreed. It seems like he just really likes having them and got off on showing people secret poo poo. But who cares. This is mycrimes.txt taken to a whole new level. Thread title says it all.
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Jun 9, 2023 21:45
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ArmyGroup303 posted:This is definitely cart-before-horse, but would Trump go to ADX Florence if convicted, given how high-profile a former President is? Hey, let's not look to far ahead where would he be held if the judge denies bond
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He wasn't charged with it, but he absolutely tried to sell secrets on Ukraine to the Russians prior to the invasion, didn't he. Burn.
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Jun 9, 2023 21:46
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How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol.
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cr0y posted:How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol. Hence why they felt comfortable charging an ex-president for federal crimes.
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cr0y posted:How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol. pray for a meteor
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cr0y posted:How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol. By resigning as his attorney and noping the gently caress out as soon as you read the indictment.
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cr0y posted:How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol. The only thing I can think of is to try to play up the fact that he probably wasn't doing it to corruptly steal it to sell to foreign nations or whatever, he's just really, really loving stupid and just wanted to have them to show people I mean, not a good defense, but, like, lol
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Jun 9, 2023 21:49
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cr0y posted:How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol. Be smug that your judge is a MAGA cultist?
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Lemming posted:The only thing I can think of is to try to play up the fact that he probably wasn't doing it to corruptly steal it to sell to foreign nations or whatever, he's just really, really loving stupid and just wanted to have them to show people I think as far as culpability goes, the reason he did it doesn't matter as long as he definitely, willfully intended to do it and then obstructed about it.
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Jun 9, 2023 21:50
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Lemming posted:The only thing I can think of is to try to play up the fact that he probably wasn't doing it to corruptly steal it to sell to foreign nations or whatever, he's just really, really loving stupid and just wanted to have them to show people there's an entire page of quotes of trump explaining how vitally important it is that everyone follows classification procedures to the letter of the law for the sake of national interest and for the sake of the people putting their lives on the line to get the info not hyperbole by the way, literally a full page of the document is that
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Jun 9, 2023 21:51
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And he keeps repeating that he could take anything he wants, even today, so that helps the case.
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Jun 9, 2023 21:52
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Herstory Begins Now posted:there's an entire page of quotes of trump explaining how vitally important it is that everyone follows classification procedures to the letter of the law for the sake of national interest and for the sake of the people putting their lives on the line to get the info Lemming posted:I mean, not a good defense, but, like, lol
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ArmyGroup303 posted:This is definitely cart-before-horse, but would Trump go to ADX Florence if convicted, given how high-profile a former President is? I was talking to my Mom about that. I feel like we are in such unprecedented territory that who the gently caress even knows.
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Jun 9, 2023 21:53
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yeah lol, tbf my answer was 'meteor'
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Jun 9, 2023 21:55
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Ynglaur posted:Holy poo poo. I can only imagine the amount of scrambling done in a bunch of federal agencies these past several months once they realized the scope of this breach. I know a guy who works in nonproliferation doing things he often can't talk about and my God to be a fly on his bathroom wall when he learns about trump's bathroom walls being boxes of documents
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Jun 9, 2023 22:00
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The only actual legal defense he has that I can think of would be a Hail Mary pass at incompetence. Have him evaluated by an expert and get a finding of absolute incompetence to stand trial based on dementia and narcissistic delusions. If you're a lawyer and suggest that to a narcissist you get fired tho
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Jun 9, 2023 22:00
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Jack Smith should be played by Coach Beard from Ted Lasso in the movie https://youtu.be/Y_mHYIx3wnc
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Jun 9, 2023 22:03
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cr0y posted:How do you even begin to build a defense strategy for this lol. Probably have to pin your hopes on jury nullification. Convince them that its "unfair" because everyone does it, and hope that at least one jurist hangs the jury. Like, I like to peruse lawyers on social media because they'll typically explain why a "slam dunk case" is not slam dunk, which tempers my expectations. But so far all those lawyers are like "LOL this is a slam dunk case".. and they never say that. Greg Doucette, for example, basically slid past discussing the merits and is talking about the chances of the DoJ being blocked by Cannon or getting a MAGA person on the jury. I find he typically does not do that for literally any other case. ryde fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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Jun 9, 2023 22:04
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ryde posted:Probably have to pin your hopes on jury nullification. Convince them that its "unfair" because everyone does it, and hope that at least one jurist hangs the jury. Yeah, the actual most likely path for this case is a series of hung juries until he dies of old age or gets re-elected and can pardon himself, because you just need one CHUD per jury each time.
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Jun 9, 2023 22:05
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Was it really necessary to wait 4 days to have Trump appear for his arraignment? I hope the FBI is keeping real close tabs on the proud boys and whatever other chud groups because they have time to prepare for violence at the courthouse now. It doesn't help that it's going to be in the middle of chudlandia.
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whydirt posted:Jack Smith should be played by Coach Beard from Ted Lasso in the movie We got three pretty good Nixon movies - Frost/Nixon, Nixon, and All the President's Men. Am I missing any? Then Oliver Stone (who did Nixon) did a W movie and it was okay. Too soon.
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Charliegrs posted:Was it really necessary to wait 4 days to have Trump appear for his arraignment? I hope the FBI is keeping real close tabs on the proud boys and whatever other chud groups because they have time to prepare for violence at the courthouse now. It doesn't help that it's going to be in the middle of chudlandia. I was under the impression they weren't going to announce it so soon but trump just posted it
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Jun 9, 2023 22:10
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gregday posted:The list of documents he’s being charged with. Jesus Christ. Those TS ones are... very bad.
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Jun 9, 2023 22:12
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Mellow Seas posted:It'll be really interesting to see the Trump cinematic canon 30 years from now. There are so many god drat movies you could make from the last eight years. Like Jan 6 by itself could easily be a movie (and I'm sure will - Peter Berg and Mark Wahlberg?) A mini-series I think, 60-90 minute episodes. You could have one just called the Four Seasons
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Jun 9, 2023 22:15
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Like I said, when the facts come out we will always learn that we couldn't even have imagined how loving STUPID Trump, his crimes, and his fellow criminals are. All of them.
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Mandatory minima: not applicable.  loving espionage doesn't have minimum imprisonment? But hey, we just put traitors all over the news these days, so what should I expect. ps Derp question but sentencing is Per Count, right? So 1--31 are 10yr maximum each, so 310yr max? PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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Presto posted:Jesus Christ. Those TS ones are... very bad. Note that some of the handling codes are redacted. They have handling codes unredacted which people on Twitter are replying to queries with, "I'm not going to discuss that handling code but it is very sensitive." What the gently caress kind of handling codes are so sensitive the label itself gets redacted? Edit: Rhetorical question, of course.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Mandatory minima: not applicable. I think mandatory minimums are in general a bad thing and do more harm than good so it's good that there aren't any.
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Ynglaur posted:Note that some of the handling codes are redacted. They have handling codes unredacted which people on Twitter are replying to queries with, "I'm not going to discuss that handling code but it is very sensitive." What the gently caress kind of handling codes are so sensitive the label itself gets redacted?[/i]
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Yeah some of those docs are so secret they can't even tell us how secret.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I think mandatory minimums are in general a bad thing and do more harm than good so it's good that there aren't any. Yeah, but it really shows how stupid the justice system is, if loving espionage on the highest possible level is less severe then owning some drugs.
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/lorieliebig/status/1667248416538218662?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw Wow. I knew we were in the stupidest timeline but come on. This world is a satire by some really messed up author. Come on you weird hack make Kid Rock testify in court to imprison a former president. I dare you!
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Still don't think trump sees the inside of a jail, but this is the best run they've taken at that so far.
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Just wait for the insurrection trial
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cant cook creole bream posted:Wow. I knew we were in the stupidest timeline but come on. This world is a satire by some really messed up author. That Homestuck joke about ICP being joint presidents is sounding like a better timeline day by day.
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