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Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Blind Duke posted:

How DARE this political office engage in politics!
The Justice Department is supposed to be beyond politics. Yeah, when they pursue prosecutions they are focused on priorities that are the president's or the party's, but they are not supposed to be "political" as in, when it comes down to crimes, they should not focus on political enemies for no reason.

And they don't and haven't in Trump's case, but conservatives keep insisting they do and did.

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TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Murdstone posted:

The Justice Department is supposed to be beyond politics. Yeah, when they pursue prosecutions they are focused on priorities that are the president's or the party's, but they are not supposed to be "political" as in, when it comes down to crimes, they should not focus on political enemies for no reason.

And they don't and haven't in Trump's case, but conservatives keep insisting they do and did.

as always, and as repeatedly proven by both the Trump and Bush administrations, it's projection. They absolutely want to gently caress over their enemies using the power of the federal justice system.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Trapezium Dave posted:

From what I remember the last steps felt more SWERF -> TERF/probably going to make a comic that is just the 14 words. Ishida was perfectly primed to plummet down that rabbit hole and his politics shift super fast.
Yeah, he went from World's Greatest Male Feminist to SWERF really really fast because he apparently got stuck on second wave feminism and DON'T EXPLOIT THE POOR WOMEN!!!! (woman in porn: "I chose this job" ishida: "NO YOU DIDN'T, YOU WERE EXPLOITED, I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU, YOU SILLY FRAIL WOMAN"), and he's just been holding there for like seven years or something. There's a long gap where he's just raging about porn and exploited women and porn and sex trafficking and porn and prostitution and porn and commercialism and porn and porn and imperialism and porn, and his comic has long since become completely incomprehensible, but his politics don't shift. When the turn happens, I think it's gonna come quick.

Also the johnbies are incoherent even by Ishida standards, I legitimately couldn't figure out what the gently caress was going on and thought it was about marijuana somehow because they were moaning "legalize it" at first.

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jun 11, 2023

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

CapnAndy posted:

Yeah, he went from World's Greatest Male Feminist to SWERF really really fast because he apparently got stuck on second wave feminism and DON'T EXPLOIT THE POOR WOMEN!!!! (woman in porn: "I chose this job" ishida: "NO YOU DIDN'T, YOU WERE EXPLOITED, I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU, YOU SILLY FRAIL WOMAN"), and he's just been holding there for like seven years or something. There's a long gap where he's just raging about porn and exploited women and porn and sex trafficking and porn and prostitution and porn and commercialism and porn and porn and imperialism and porn, and his comic has long since become completely incomprehensible, but his politics don't shift. When the turn happens, I think it's gonna come quick.

Probably not a hot take, but Ishida's trajectory kinda feels like the inevitable endpoint to building a political identity devoid of materialist analysis and focusing entirely on "Good" or "Bad" actions

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

They love bringing out "economic coercion" to explain why women go into porn, but that never seems to come up for the people dealing with screaming customers or scrubbing toilets or working fourteen hours a day to stock shelves or whatever.

"Sex work is work" and "economic coercion exists" are not mutually exclusive thoughts, and while I am sure there are guys taking their dicks out for money who would stop if they won the lottery or UBI got passed or whatever, I am equally sure that there's some lady punching numbers into a spreadsheet who'd rather be telling men they're dirty little piggies who need to be punished.

Lareine
Jul 22, 2007

KIIIRRRYYYUUUUU CHAAAANNNNNN
Look at him now, being such a great feminist that he doesn't even bring up Roe vs. Wade when it was overturned. You know, the thing ACTUAL feminists care about.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Lareine posted:

Look at him now, being such a great feminist that he doesn't even bring up Roe vs. Wade when it was overturned. You know, the thing ACTUAL feminists care about.

Oh you sweet summer child, maybe when you reach the same upper tier of feminism that he has you'll realize that the Real Feminists are all very deeply concerned about trans youth and making sure they can't live their lives. That's the real hot button issue.

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

Nenonen posted:

My first read of the Lester was "sound science". I coloured myself surprised, but of loving course it said "junk science". :negative:

How surprised were you when you saw the "Canada wild fires" fire was burning the "Drugs" apartment building?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

CapnAndy posted:

he doesn't even seem to like trump very much,
Just hold on to that thought

CapnAndy posted:

Does COVID break his brain?

Oh boy

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

VitalSigns posted:

Just hold on to that thought
Well, I knew going in he turns hard right, my journey has been to see what flips him from being a very left-wing whackjob. So in that context "huh, it wasn't initial exposure to trump or even him winning" was interesting.

Also I'm into 2019 and the turn has begun, and... hmm. I think what's happened is that up until now, like I said, Ishida's been able to square being both a rabid fundamentalist with being King Feminism by being a second-wave feminist and using the "anything that is not marital sex is sinful" overlap. But he's been knocked out of that equilibrium. He has, somehow, been exposed to concepts relating to societal enforcement of rigid gender roles and gender identity as a whole. Someone told him, or he saw something, or he read something, or he got the idea that he should make growth in his journey as a feminist, whatever it was. He's dipped a toe in that before by some fairly surface-level railing against the virgin/whore dichotomy, but he still clearly wholly bought into it despite the slight nods in that direction. In Sinfest, quite literally, Good Girls Don't. He's symbolized a heel/face turn multiple times in the past by having the woman throw away her slutty clothes/quit her job as a a sex worker.

Anyway, now he knows "gender binaries are bad". He was taught that. It is feminism thought, and he is The Best And Most Feminist, so he believes it. But the second, the very second he steps outside that binary, he's repulsed by what he finds. He reflexively sneers at a "johnbie" who identifies as "pan-fabulus goth gendr mascara sexual" -- the illuminati bot checking for "gender papers" approves of this! The pig who's always high goes to drive-through and orders a "nothing burger and word salad" and another "johnbie" gives him a spiel about "he/hir/xir/gir/blir temporal positionality".

So gender binaries are bad, but anything outside a gender binary is disgusting. These are exclusionary concepts, and it's led to some incoherent even by Ishida standards writing. He can no longer be both a fundamentalist and a feminist. One of them has to destroy the other. Combine that with his pre-existing hatred of "Big Pharma", and in what appears to be days or a week at most after a storyline about the government enforcing "boy brains, girl brains, blue brains, pink brains" in prison camps and with mandatory medication to realign gender non-comformists(!), a "johnbie" has just cracked a "joke" of "gahhh graaaaghhhhh gluuuuuurrgghhhh are my pronouns" to the unimpressed 10 year old Arbiter of Feminism on her Big Wheel.

I am buckling up.

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

Lareine posted:

Look at him now, being such a great feminist that he doesn't even bring up Roe vs. Wade when it was overturned. You know, the thing ACTUAL feminists care about.

Spoilertagging this just in case CapnAndy cares: Pretty sure he's done stuff making GBS threads on feminists and feminism since the RvW overturn.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
Lee Judge




Jimmy Margulies




David M. Hitch




Randall Enos




Adam Zyglis




Mike Thompson

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
:magical: Sinfest Sunday :magical: - In this week's episode of Watching a Broke-Brained Boomer Spiral Ever Deeper: He actually manages to wrap up the Target storyline, which... basically leaves him confused and lost - even moreso - for the rest of the week. So he busts out an old joke and repurposes it for his persecution complex and Q-tier conspiracy theories. He then throws out a separate one, followed what might charitably be described as an actual current events joke that doesn't kick down. Of course that leaves him with no clear direction for the Sunday strip, so he defaults to his safe spot - using current events and his piss-poor media literacy to 'joke' about how his political enemies aren't human.






And the Pettyfest chaser:









Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Given how fundie media portrays other religions, this could be a solid mirror held up to that if it weren't just Tats implying that all 'woke' media is satanic.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006


Wasn’t the point of Blade Runner that the replicants are no different from humans?

Skios
Oct 1, 2021

I AM GRANDO posted:

Wasn’t the point of Blade Runner that the replicants are no different from humans?

Skios posted:

his piss-poor media literacy

Honestly, at this point, I feel like 'Least media literate' could be a Kellies nomination.

RickRogers
Jun 21, 2020

Woh, is that a thing I like??

Skios posted:

Honestly, at this point, I feel like 'Least media literate' could be a Kellies nomination.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011




"Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a mindless robot"? Really? Geez, he really is a decade out of date isn't he? I look forward to a decade from now when he's passed away from huffing on his own farts for so long making comics about the evil beer companies supporting trans people.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
And are the pro-USSR pro-Ukraine deep environmentalists in the room with you right now, Tats?

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


All of sinfest is basically AI generated but the Sunday ones more than the rest

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Randalor posted:

"Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a mindless robot"? Really? Geez, he really is a decade out of date isn't he? I look forward to a decade from now when he's passed away from huffing on his own farts for so long making comics about the evil beer companies supporting trans people.

poo poo, I thought even that was a generous interpretation, granted I'm probably reaching too far and giving him too much credit.

I was seeing it as "All of this Woke Equal Rights stuff is manufactured. Real People don't actually want it, we're just being told we want it by the Bad Guys, for Reasons, but nobody actually believes in it."

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

CapnAndy posted:

Well, I knew going in he turns hard right, my journey has been to see what flips him from being a very left-wing whackjob. So in that context "huh, it wasn't initial exposure to trump or even him winning" was interesting.

Also I'm into 2019 and the turn has begun, and... hmm. I think what's happened is that up until now, like I said, Ishida's been able to square being both a rabid fundamentalist with being King Feminism by being a second-wave feminist and using the "anything that is not marital sex is sinful" overlap. But he's been knocked out of that equilibrium. He has, somehow, been exposed to concepts relating to societal enforcement of rigid gender roles and gender identity as a whole. Someone told him, or he saw something, or he read something, or he got the idea that he should make growth in his journey as a feminist, whatever it was. He's dipped a toe in that before by some fairly surface-level railing against the virgin/whore dichotomy, but he still clearly wholly bought into it despite the slight nods in that direction. In Sinfest, quite literally, Good Girls Don't. He's symbolized a heel/face turn multiple times in the past by having the woman throw away her slutty clothes/quit her job as a a sex worker.

Anyway, now he knows "gender binaries are bad". He was taught that. It is feminism thought, and he is The Best And Most Feminist, so he believes it. But the second, the very second he steps outside that binary, he's repulsed by what he finds. He reflexively sneers at a "johnbie" who identifies as "pan-fabulus goth gendr mascara sexual" -- the illuminati bot checking for "gender papers" approves of this! The pig who's always high goes to drive-through and orders a "nothing burger and word salad" and another "johnbie" gives him a spiel about "he/hir/xir/gir/blir temporal positionality".

So gender binaries are bad, but anything outside a gender binary is disgusting. These are exclusionary concepts, and it's led to some incoherent even by Ishida standards writing. He can no longer be both a fundamentalist and a feminist. One of them has to destroy the other. Combine that with his pre-existing hatred of "Big Pharma", and in what appears to be days or a week at most after a storyline about the government enforcing "boy brains, girl brains, blue brains, pink brains" in prison camps and with mandatory medication to realign gender non-comformists(!), a "johnbie" has just cracked a "joke" of "gahhh graaaaghhhhh gluuuuuurrgghhhh are my pronouns" to the unimpressed 10 year old Arbiter of Feminism on her Big Wheel.

I am buckling up.

A common refrain from TERF types is that Trans people actually reenforce gender binaries, because they could just be a feminine male or tomboy, but instead decide to flip because, according to TERFs, they can only think of "feminine == woman, masculine == male". It's a facile argument at best, obviously.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Guavanaut posted:

And are the pro-USSR pro-Ukraine deep environmentalists in the room with you right now, Tats?

I was going to say, anyone waving an old USSR flag in the streets right now is not going to be popular.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
Pretend I posted that Oglaf comic on sexual dimorphism here.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005




It's wild seeing just a normal joke comic in the middle of his insane screed.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Randalor posted:

"Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a mindless robot"? Really? Geez, he really is a decade out of date isn't he? I look forward to a decade from now when he's passed away from huffing on his own farts for so long making comics about the evil beer companies supporting trans people.

he's already got the zombies for "all my enemies are mindless nothings" so i look forward to the important and meaningful distinction between the two in the upcoming strips that will conclusively explain why he has both in a way that makes any sense at all

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

Randalor posted:

I look forward to a decade from now when he's passed away from huffing on his own farts for so long making comics about the evil beer companies supporting trans people.

He's already doing that, complete with indulging his bulge fetish.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Neito posted:

A common refrain from TERF types is that Trans people actually reenforce gender binaries, because they could just be a feminine male or tomboy, but instead decide to flip because, according to TERFs, they can only think of "feminine == woman, masculine == male". It's a facile argument at best, obviously.
Also falls apart immediately if they see a man in a dress
They do not think anyone ought to be allowed to be a feminine male.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
This is... maybe the lamest thing I've ever seen in my loving life. It's some washed up hack doing DeviantArt levels of pathetic art. "Look, here's my super badass cool hot babe OC totally OWNING this real life corporation, and she walks out all dramatic, and like, the Target logo -- you know, the corporate logo? From loving Target? -- it gets all like, changed and magic distorted and poo poo!!"
It's on par with Tim Buckley drawing his characters blowing up "Micro$$$oft HQ" with a plunger of dynamite except it takes itself 10x more seriously. Ishida has done some really stupid and hateful poo poo in the past but this might be the single most pathetic strip in the history of his comic. I can't stop staring. It's a cringe singularity. He really drew this, published it, and thought it was cool and badass. The loving TARGET logo! Jesus Christ.

I know he's leaned and hinted at it before but man, we're at a point where he's completely mask off about how his anti-T tirade is now explicitly anti-LGB, too.

E: Seriously I'm still stuck on this, holy poo poo. There's a Target down the street from me and my mind is folding in on itself thinking about this 50+ year old man sitting there going "ha ha my cool OC is destroying a supermarket logo in this drawing I did"

Vib Rib fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 11, 2023

Skios
Oct 1, 2021

Vib Rib posted:

I know he's leaned and hinted at it before but man, we're at a point where he's completely mask off about how his anti-T tirade is now explicitly anti-LGB, too.

I think he's been doing that for about two years now. There was that storyline where 'nique was strolling around the devil's mansion for some reason, and she came across a map of America with a bunch of flags planted on them to indicate his plans, which included a rainbow flag.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor
Has the queer representation been anything other than young, conventionally attractive lesbians?

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Observer:

"Can Donald Trump still lead the Republican party back to the White House? – The former president rails against a second indictment, this time over his handling of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate"

Sunday Telegraph:

Boris Johnson resigns as MP over partygate report

Matt:


Sunday Times:


Mail on Sunday:

“Get ready, Mrs Gribly. Your examination will start immediately after the words, Brace! Brace!”

JamesBont
Oct 1, 2021

TIL supporting Ukraine make you woke, therefore bad

Also, I have no idea what two of these flags even mean (the orange one with what looks like a skull, and the other orange one with what looks like three green missiles).

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

After The War posted:

Has the queer representation been anything other than young, conventionally attractive lesbians?
i cannot remember the last time he drew a gay man unless we count his (disturbingly frequent) diaper fetish man as gay.

When he did, it was the swishy, effeminate stereotype you’d expect, although this was before he fell down the alt-right hole, and intended as positive. Just…in that weird straight person way.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



the_steve posted:

poo poo, I thought even that was a generous interpretation, granted I'm probably reaching too far and giving him too much credit.

I was seeing it as "All of this Woke Equal Rights stuff is manufactured. Real People don't actually want it, we're just being told we want it by the Bad Guys, for Reasons, but nobody actually believes in it."

Yeah, but we're being shown it's explicitly robots programmed to do it. You're right in your reading of it, I'm just saying the reader's difest version of that interpretation. It's more the shock of seeing a loving NPC meme reference in this day and age. Didn't those fall out of use awhile back? And besides, he had been using the zombies for the "mindless masses doing what Satan said"/"all right-wing terrorism is the FBI", so I'm surprised at the sudden NPC meme.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Cloud Potato posted:

Mail on Sunday:

“Get ready, Mrs Gribly. Your examination will start immediately after the words, Brace! Brace!”

What. On. Earth?!?

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"

JamesBont posted:

Also, I have no idea what two of these flags even mean (the orange one with what looks like a skull, and the other orange one with what looks like three green missiles).

Just Stop Oil and The Three Arrows, a German Antifa logo.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Nenonen posted:

What. On. Earth?!?
I'm going to assume the answer is that Mac is a piece of poo poo and is terrified of being at the mercy of queer or Black people robots (that may be being controlled by queer or Black people).

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ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

Randalor posted:

Yeah, but we're being shown it's explicitly robots programmed to do it. You're right in your reading of it, I'm just saying the reader's difest version of that interpretation. It's more the shock of seeing a loving NPC meme reference in this day and age. Didn't those fall out of use awhile back? And besides, he had been using the zombies for the "mindless masses doing what Satan said"/"all right-wing terrorism is the FBI", so I'm surprised at the sudden NPC meme.

This is like the fourth or fifth time he's thrown the NPC meme into a comic. He keeps putting 4chan meme poo poo into Sinfest nowadays hoping that they'll love him, and I don't think it's going to take.

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