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Astryl posted:“collect 69, bare rear end” Now that would be a quest to do
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latinotwink1997 posted:Now that would be a quest to do Until it doesn’t carry over and you have to do it 420 times
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Jun 12, 2023 15:43
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If the renown bonuses carry over into seasons no one will be redoing renown any time soon. The exp/gold reward is paltry for time spent.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:44
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coelomate posted:For context, the end game is all about dungeons and dungeons are all solo instances. Hey I'm really glad you posted this - I ended up giving it a shot and am completely loving the game. I've only seen something like a dozen other players in 20 levels. This is worlds better than Immortal, where every important game element was swarmed like a Black Friday doorbuster. It's a small price to pay to explode corpses in HD.
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SettingSun posted:If the renown bonuses carry over into seasons no one will be redoing renown any time soon. The exp/gold reward is paltry for time spent. There would be much gnashing of teeth/deserved outrage if they changed it from current behavior but I guess it's possible.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:46
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SettingSun posted:If the renown bonuses carry over into seasons no one will be redoing renown any time soon. The exp/gold reward is paltry for time spent. It's not about the exp/gold, it's about those sweet skill points + 4 paragon. The couple hours you spend grinding out quests for max renown ends up being around the same time it takes to jump one full level once you're P70+.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:49
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I appreciate the whiplash of some of these quests. One day you're finding some ding dong's lost camel, and the next you're trying to get Andariel out of some girl's head.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:50
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exquisite tea posted:It's not about the exp/gold, it's about those sweet skill points + 4 paragon. The couple hours you spend grinding out quests for max renown ends up being around the same time it takes to jump one full level once you're P70+.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:51
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I appreciate that the game mostly just pretends Diablo 3 never happened
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Jun 12, 2023 15:52
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If you have to get those drat renown rewards again it will be obnoxious. You'd end up needing to get a bunch of statues again just for the renown anyway
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Jun 12, 2023 15:52
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SettingSun posted:Yeah, except the paragon points are a realm-wide bonus. Hence, if they do carry over ream-wide bonuses like we are talking about and hoping for, getting renown a second time is redundant. I’m sure they can easily add/change the max bonus for people who have already completed it once, like seasonal rewards in D3.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:53
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the only thing we know for certain carries over: bonuses from the altars of lilith. i don't think anything else has been talked about by the dev team
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Jun 12, 2023 15:54
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exquisite tea posted:It's not about the exp/gold, it's about those sweet skill points + 4 paragon. The couple hours you spend grinding out quests for max renown ends up being around the same time it takes to jump one full level once you're P70+. Yes, obviously if they change how it works right now, today, and make it so the points don't carry over, you'd probably want to get to at least level 3. If they do change it, there's going to be a lot of backlash. Like, a lot. The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:the only thing we know for certain carries over: bonuses from the altars of lilith. You can test this today by making an alt. All your points are there. It would be very strange if they changed it so only altars carried over but not renown skill/paragon points but again, it's possible.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:55
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SettingSun posted:Yeah, except the paragon points are a realm-wide bonus. Hence, if they do carry over ream-wide bonuses like we are talking about and hoping for, getting renown a second time is redundant. Paragon points from the altars will carry over, but Team D4 has said nothing about renown, hence the consternation itt.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:56
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I've been trying to dig a little more into the desync issue and I'm starting to think it's a client side bug. Something is tripping and just killing the game connection without dropping the main battle.net client connection since even in my disconnected mode I received whispers and challenge message from other players. It's affecting my PC but in the last week I don't recall having a desync on my Deck. I had a similar issue, game would lag out for a few seconds and then continue but voice chat and regular chat would become inaccessible. It would happen constantly like every 10-15 minutes. Upgraded my network card drivers (INTEL LAN Drivers) and it hasn't happened once since. ASUS ROG Strix motherboard.
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exquisite tea posted:Paragon points from the altars will carry over, but Team D4 has said nothing about renown, hence the consternation itt. There are no paragon points from altars.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:57
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There are.
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Kaddish posted:Yes, obviously if they change how it works right now, today, and make it so the points don't carry over, you'd probably want to get to at least level 3. If they do change it, there's going to be a lot of backlash. Like, a lot. hmm i see. well i think we'll have to do them over at least once, during the first season. these characters are all in the eternal realm, so the stuff we've unlocked won't carry over to the seasonal realm. i think we have to unlock poo poo again during season 1 and then it will carry over to future seasons
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Jun 12, 2023 15:58
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exquisite tea posted:There are. I guess I'll take your word for it. I've done like 100 of them and haven't seen it yet.
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TjyvTompa posted:I had a similar issue, game would lag out for a few seconds and then continue but voice chat and regular chat would become inaccessible. It would happen constantly like every 10-15 minutes. Upgraded my network card drivers (INTEL LAN Drivers) and it hasn't happened once since. ASUS ROG Strix motherboard. Well I do have a ASUS ROG Strix motherboard (from like ‘18) so I’ll see if there’s anything to update there then try again. Played again during a break just now (on the steam deck) with no issues. Also found out that helltide cinders carry over between events? I logged out with like 70 from this morning helltide then logged back in on a different helltide and still had those cinders on me.
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Jun 12, 2023 15:59
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Kaddish posted:I guess I'll take your word for it. I've done like 100 of them and haven't seen it yet. 
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Jun 12, 2023 16:00
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Kaddish posted:I guess I'll take your word for it. I've done like 100 of them and haven't seen it yet. It’s only 4 paragon total so I wouldn’t worry much about it. The rewards per statue are also fixed so if you only care about paragon points here you go: 1. Fields of Hatred, inside a cave, go up the small ridge and look to the right 2. Temple of Rot, in the northern corner of the Temple Grounds 3. Dindai Flats, east of the small puddles of the Brakish Pans 4. Chambatar Ridge, north of the small camp - you need to destroy the abandoned wagon to access the altar Those are the 4 statues with the paragon point rewards.
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I don't understand how that graphic addresses what you stated.Happy Noodle Boy posted:It’s only 4 paragon total so I wouldn’t worry much about it. The rewards per statue are also fixed so if you only care about paragon points here you go: Ah, gotcha. I haven't gotten any of those evidently. I'm definitely gonna seek those out.
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Jun 12, 2023 16:01
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the social bits in d4/blizzard services are a different server compared to the game server, so having a desync issue on one and not the other is pretty common assuming your general network connection hasn't failed.
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Jun 12, 2023 16:02
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Kaddish posted:I don't understand how that graphic addresses what you stated.
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zoux posted:Oh I thought we were confusing renown rewards and statue rewards, I also didn't know that you could get paragon points straight from statutes. What happens if you aren't 50 and get one you die irl
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zoux posted:Oh I thought we were confusing renown rewards and statue rewards, I also didn't know that you could get paragon points straight from statutes. What happens if you aren't 50 and get one just like now, you have the points but can't assign them until 50.
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zoux posted:Oh I thought we were confusing renown rewards and statue rewards, I also didn't know that you could get paragon points straight from statutes. What happens if you aren't 50 and get one It still says you got it but you won't actually get to use it until you unlock paragon boards.
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exquisite tea posted:Paragon points from the altars will carry over, but Team D4 has said nothing about renown, hence the consternation itt. I think we're saying the same thing. Needing to redo renown means I won't enjoy the season nearly as much because that's all annoying busywork not directly tied to murdering demons. Please let those bonuses carry over!
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Kaddish posted:You can test this today by making an alt. All your points are there. It would be very strange if they changed it so only altars carried over but not renown skill/paragon points but again, it's possible. Your characters are currently in the "eternal" (or eternal HC) realm which is the standard base game realm characters go to when there's not a season running. The "realm" when a season starts is different than the eternal realm. So far blizzard has definitively confirmed that Lilith altar bonuses will carry over from the eternal realm to the seasonal realm. They have not confirmed anything about the renown bonuses. Now it would be great, and imo it would make sense, if renown bonuses similarly carried over. But since they haven't confirmed or clarified it there's a chance that they won't. And that's why people are worried about having to redo renown again. It's not just for the exp/gold part.
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I'd also like if the map was entirely revealed when you skip campaign in seasons, even if you have to hoof it to the waypoints at least you'd have a reference to where everything is. Don't make us have a map up on a second monitor, the fewer external tools required the better.Guillermus posted:I'm sure this got asked before but thread moves quick. For a more detailed and less snarky answer: they are account wide but realm specific. Realm in this game currently means either softcore or hardcore, so if you do it all on one softcore character you will have them on all softcore characters going forwards, but not hardcore unless you also do it on a hardcore character. The Altar rewards in particular (not their collection status in-game) have been clearly stated to carry over to new seasonal characters despite Seasons being their own pair of realms. This is why everybody is so confused about what will or won't have to be repeated every 3 months. Communicate, Blizz! It's not hard! You have community managers! George H.W. oval office posted:I appreciate the whiplash of some of these quests. One day you're finding some ding dong's lost camel, and the next you're trying to get Andariel out of some girl's head. A handful of these feel like they were converted from cut campaign content, and are some of the better ones.
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Clocks posted:Your characters are currently in the "eternal" (or eternal HC) realm which is the standard base game realm characters go to when there's not a season running. The "realm" when a season starts is different than the eternal realm. Yeah I think we can all agree if they make people re-do the renown grind every season it would suck real bad. It's such a bad decision that I'm choosing to be optimistic about it.
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Swilo posted:For a more detailed and less snarky answer: they are account wide but realm specific. Realm in this game currently means either softcore or hardcore, so if you do it all on one softcore character you will have them on all softcore characters going forwards, but not hardcore unless you also do it on a hardcore character. Nice, I'll try to get them all before the first season, thanks!
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SettingSun posted:I think we're saying the same thing. Needing to redo renown means I won't enjoy the season nearly as much because that's all annoying busywork not directly tied to murdering demons. Please let those bonuses carry over!
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Yeah, doing most of the side quests again would suck, there's actually a lot of cool bits in them but sitting through the dialogue would be exhausting. I'm not sure I would even want to rerun all the dungeons to unlock my aspects again.
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The real answer is we don’t know, and it being blizzard means they’ll likely gently caress it up for season 1 and then change it from season 2 onwards due to community outrage.
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Astryl posted:The real answer is we don’t know, and it being blizzard means they’ll likely gently caress it up for season 1 and then change it from season 2 onwards due to community outrage. that is fully what i'm expecting. it's how WoW has worked for many years.
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American McGay posted:Doing some napkin math based on the numbers in that screenshot, doing all the strongholds and dungeons in a region should get you to 1500 renown without having to engage in any boring side quests or statue searching. Continue to murder demons. You’ll be fine. Dungeons are boring. Doing them the first time for the checkmark is already tedious.
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I'm also willing to bet Seasons will have XP/renown boosts in the battlepass or even whatever the seasonal mechanic are that will smooth a bunch of this out. Guess we'll find out in a week or so when they do that post-launch dev stream about the new season
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Sounds like you just don’t enjoy Diablo 4 my dude.
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