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Frosted Flake posted:It's an honour to be a guardsman and wear Full Dress. you know, any time an officer says that some assignment is an honor that's a sure sign that you should try to make yourself scarce asap
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Frosted Flake posted:France has two kinds of marine, and so does Italy, which is funny in its own way. FWIW, my roomie's boyfriend many years ago was a French vet who had been to Bosnia and Afghanistan and he had the opinion that the Navy Commandos were just a ploy, that the name was there to attract the dumbest gamers with the promise of becoming SOF, but in reality they had the worst duties, patrolling quiet airbases and the like. Can't vouch for the truth value tho.
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Dawncloack posted:FWIW, my roomie's boyfriend many years ago was a French vet who had been to Bosnia and Afghanistan and he had the opinion that the Navy Commandos were just a ploy, that the name was there to attract the dumbest gamers with the promise of becoming SOF, but in reality they had the worst duties, patrolling quiet airbases and the like. Can't vouch for the truth value tho. lol that rules. Doesn't the USAF have a HSLD team that is... airfield gate guards?
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Frosted Flake posted:lol that rules. No theyre not HSLD, they're just called Security Forces and abbreviated at SF which purposely makes them sound cooler than what they actually are (gate guards)
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lol you mean (gamer voice) Pheonix Raven? uh, yeah, they’re basically SF
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btw the problem isnt the vdv specifically it's that airborne, air assault, and amphibious warfare are all great ways to get a bunch of your own guys and war material smoked and giving them free-standing institutional clout is dumb and bad
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Dawncloack posted:the name was there to attract the dumbest gamers with the promise of becoming SOF, but in reality they had the worst duties, patrolling quiet airbases and the like. idk patrolling a quiet airbase sounds like one of the better jobs you could get stuck doing in the army
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OutsideAngel posted:idk patrolling a quiet airbase sounds like one of the better jobs you could get stuck doing in the army I agree, but I can also see how a bunch of idiot 18yo (I repeat myself, I know) high on Call of Duty would see it differently.
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500excf type r posted:No theyre not HSLD, they're just called Security Forces and abbreviated at SF which purposely makes them sound cooler than what they actually are (gate guards) when my dad was in the airforce in the 80s-90s they were security police they're literally just air force MPs, its just that on air bases the MPs are the only ones with any ongoing training in combat. he loved going on rants about how badly defended whatever air base we were stationed at was, how badly BLUFOR did in the latest exercise or when he was especially deranged how few men he'd need to destroy everything important
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The Oldest Man posted:btw the problem isnt the vdv specifically it's that airborne, air assault, and amphibious warfare are all great ways to get a bunch of your own guys and war material smoked and giving them free-standing institutional clout is dumb and bad Seems to work pretty well for Russia.
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atelier morgan posted:when my dad was in the airforce in the 80s-90s they were security police In 2012 a handful of Taliban set fire to about $200 million of American planes
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ma i married a tuna posted:In 2012 a handful of Taliban set fire to about $200 million of American planes So like two of them?
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ma i married a tuna posted:In 2012 a handful of Taliban set fire to about $200 million of American planes Say the line...
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https://youtu.be/0rAHrHd2lcw Vdv has a good as hell song so I support them
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gradenko_2000 posted:Say the line... " It's a plane, Michael, what could it cost?"
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Slavvy posted:Fulfilling their strategic function and achieving their tactical goal literally by the book = helping the enemy out Exactly. 🇷🇺More than 200 servicemen of the Ivanovo Guards Airborne Unit landed in the Kostroma region In this landing from Il-76MD aircraft, about 150 servicemen made their first parachute jump from heavy military transport aircraft. After landing, the personnel assembled and worked out tactical tasks to capture the objects of a mock enemy. https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/68426
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Cross-posting from Asia thread because lmao the article is a fun read Homeless Friend posted:https://twitter.com/politico/status/1667160905778446338?cxt=HHwWhIC-xdiA-aIuAAAA IMO in the absence of onshore manufacturing capacity, the Americans will be the first to turn to nukes (tactical or strategic) in a PRC-US war. Hubbert has issued a correction as of 15:54 on Jun 12, 2023 |
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A nordsteam styled mystery tactical nuke going off in Taipei, so the US can make EU join the sanction alliance. A Taiwanese political commentator has already discussed that scenario. I keep going "too much online" and "insightful armchair strategist" on this guy.
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Hubbert posted:Cross-posting from Asia thread because lmao the article is a fun read Well, since they planned to use them first in Central Europe during the Cold War, I don't think there's much doubt here as well. Makes me wonder how they'll justify that to the western public.
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Frosted Flake posted:Well, since they planned to use them first in Central Europe during the Cold War, I don't think there's much doubt here as well. same thing as everything else, vaguely imply those are russian nuclear weapons going off and then refuse any further questions
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Clark Nova posted:I think the marines being a separate branch is a relic of early 20th century imperial adventurism. we’re not sending the army, we’re just landing a small detachment of marines. The Marines are really a relic of press ganging under monarchy. Marines role on a boat was to protect the officers from the men. The military has gone away from this line of thinking in modern times, but even in WW1 the naval officer handbook told you that all enlisted men were lazy liars and cheaters, and criminal to boot.
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stephenthinkpad posted:A nordsteam styled mystery tactical nuke going off in Taipei, so the US can make EU join the sanction alliance. A Taiwanese political commentator has already discussed that scenario. john bradons gonna nuke the chip factory?
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Frosted Flake posted:Well, since they planned to use them first in Central Europe during the Cold War, I don't think there's much doubt here as well. Simple, we will be informed that it's use nukes or chalk an L up on the board. Americans would rather be evil monsters than losers. This is the country full of people who thought we should nuke the middle east because 9/11.
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fits my needs posted:john bradons gonna nuke the chip factory? Nah that would be too obvious, US politicians has repeatedly said they would bomb TSMC so even stupid brain washed European Congress people won't buy that China bomb them. You set off the tactical nuke on the Taipei 101. Why? because Asian Orcs are craaazy. *Cue Guardian article why the Chinese ccp are crazy. (also Politico article to remind people why defending Taiwan equal defending USD hegemony and the American way of life to keep the moderates in line) stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 18:12 on Jun 12, 2023 |
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Turtle Sandbox posted:Simple, we will be informed that it's use nukes or chalk an L up on the board. The PRC also has a large number of nuclear weapons, and Russia would probably join in if the US’ pants were down.
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The Oldest Man posted:btw the problem isnt the vdv specifically it's that airborne, air assault, and amphibious warfare are all great ways to get a bunch of your own guys and war material smoked and giving them free-standing institutional clout is dumb and bad Yeah mass drop airborne already had its heyday in the 40s and is dead. You can’t really do that when SAMs and manpads are on the table. You also can’t just appear on a shoreline one morning because of radar and NV. The surprise is gone. Though calling them airborne is great for morale and esprit de corps I guess. I’ve heard VDV be described as latter day dragoons, which seems plausible, or at least a call back to the Crimean War lol
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When it gets to nuke time i doubt the us will even bother making an excuse for it and I'd assume if they were nuking china they'd probably do russia, north korea, and maybe india/pakistan/iran at the same time
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atelier morgan posted:when my dad was in the airforce in the 80s-90s they were security police Back in the 80s they had a particularly deranged special forces team that would go do mock attacks on various bases to test their security, until the team decided to kidnap and torture a security guard for funsies and to show how easy it would be to torture info out of them. The officer responsible was eventually fired and jailed for, I want to say, embezzlement several years later which may or may not have been a pretext because he was, as I mentioned, particularly deranged.
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sullat posted:Back in the 80s they had a particularly deranged special forces team that would go do mock attacks on various bases to test their security, until the team decided to kidnap and torture a security guard for funsies and to show how easy it would be to torture info out of them. The officer responsible was eventually fired and jailed for, I want to say, embezzlement several years later which may or may not have been a pretext because he was, as I mentioned, particularly deranged. And then the guy involved went on to inspire some movies and even a particularly terrible video game where Mickey Rourke spends the entire game saying swears literally every other word  https://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/demolishing-dick-how-a-real-domestic-terrorist-spa-1899468/
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I guess this is the more correct thread for it, but someone on Russian Telegram and blogosphere tried to start a panic about US nuclear submarine squadron deploying to the atlantic/baltic and something something decapitating nuclear first strike. But I guess the actual war is boring enough that the couple of crazier posters picked upon it over the weekend, not that it's getting a lot of attention.
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Lostconfused posted:I guess this is the more correct thread for it, but someone on Russian Telegram and blogosphere tried to start a panic about US nuclear submarine squadron deploying to the atlantic/baltic and something something decapitating nuclear first strike. ive seen second hand reports of nuland describing july 11th as the start of ww3 during meetings. concerning,
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gently caress yeah cant wait to lose
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croup coughfield posted:gently caress yeah cant wait to lose
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Frosted Flake posted:Makes me wonder how they'll justify that to the western public. why would they have to, the western public will be fully on board by the time any missiles fly
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If we nuke China then Douglas MacArthur can finally stop spinning in his grave.
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