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live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
He'd probably go to whatever planet Thor and Love are policing.

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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Admiral Joeslop posted:

He already showed up in NYC in Ragnarok and no one but Dr. Strange seemed to care, even the people asking Thor for a photo.

That...hey, that is weird.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
Would the average joe even know or recognise him? There were plenty of alien corpses littering the streets but I doubt many people got a good look at Loki pootling about on his air chariot like Dime Store Serpentor. He was arrested, Thor took him back home, The End.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Sentinel Red posted:

Would the average joe even know or recognise him? There were plenty of alien corpses littering the streets but I doubt many people got a good look at Loki pootling about on his air chariot like Dime Store Serpentor. He was arrested, Thor took him back home, The End.

It's a little unclear how much the general public knows about what actually happens in the big events, but everyone knows Osama bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks (conspiracy jokes aside), so it's not out of line that the news of the MCU would cover who was responsible for the attack on New York. Cops were helping escort him out of the building, any of them could have talked, and at that point it's everywhere.

They know about Thanos later, which is even weirder when you think about it. Who even saw Thanos outside of the Avengers themselves?

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Sentinel Red posted:

Would the average joe even know or recognise him? There were plenty of alien corpses littering the streets but I doubt many people got a good look at Loki pootling about on his air chariot like Dime Store Serpentor. He was arrested, Thor took him back home, The End.

Plenty of folks in Germany saw him when he made his "Here to free you from freedom" speech before Cap and Widow showed up. Some of them probably had cell phone video.

OTOH, in Ragnarok Loki was just a (slightly less hot guy) in a suit with Thor, who wasn't trying to beat the poo poo out of him, so... nah, couldn't be him.

Sort of the same way that you might be stuck in line behind a really tall Middle-Eastern guy with four cartloads of soft drinks and snacks taking advantage of the "5 for $10.00" sale to get 40 6-packs of 20 ounce Coke products to re-sell at his convenience store. Sure he's 6'5" and has a long beard, but no, Osama bin Laden has probably not moved on from global terrorism to owning a Shell station in Tennessee.

thrawn527 posted:

It's a little unclear how much the general public knows about what actually happens in the big events, but everyone knows Osama bin Laden was behind the 9/11 attacks (conspiracy jokes aside), so it's not out of line that the news of the MCU would cover who was responsible for the attack on New York. Cops were helping escort him out of the building, any of them could have talked, and at that point it's everywhere.

They know about Thanos later, which is even weirder when you think about it. Who even saw Thanos outside of the Avengers themselves?

Presumably the surviving Asgardians saw him. Also, Ebony Maw wouldn't shut up about how super-duper awesome anyone around him should be to know that they're getting murdered by the Children of Thanos.

Bringing it back to OBL again, did you, personally ever see OBL or just hear his name and see a picture on TV? Presumably the later but you still accept that he was real and did what he did because you're not a conspiracy nut.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Yeah but you'd also be way more likely to recognise Osama if he was hanging out with Saddam Hussein (wtf is this analogy why are we doing this)

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Rarity posted:

Yeah but you'd also be way more likely to recognise Osama if he was hanging out with Saddam Hussein (wtf is this analogy why are we doing this)

If Loki is Osama, surely Thor is Reagan.

Yeah this analogy is :dafuq:

MisterDuck
Feb 27, 2013
Steve Rogers seems like the kinda guy who would call a press conference after the snap and explain what happened and take responsibility for not stopping it.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

MisterDuck posted:

Steve Rogers seems like the kinda guy who would call a press conference after the snap and explain what happened and take responsibility for not stopping it.

But wouldn't he have also explained what happened after the Battle of New York? Including a picture, or at least a really good artist rendering, of Loki? People would demand answers after something like that. "What happened? Well, we saved the day," wouldn't really cut it, I think.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Half of everyone disappearing in a cloud of dust would be impossible to cover up.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

live with fruit posted:

Half of everyone disappearing in a cloud of dust would be impossible to cover up.

I dunno, doesn't sound like there's much evidence left...

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

live with fruit posted:

Half of everyone disappearing in a cloud of dust would be impossible to cover up.

...yes? But so is the attack against New York? I'm honest not sure what point you're making here.

Rappaport posted:

If Loki is Osama, surely Thor is Reagan.

Yeah this analogy is :dafuq:

I originally just meant it as a direct analogy for people knowing the person who launched a major attack against New York, because of course the news would have to address it. It's gotten a little nuts since then.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
the mod team violated the sancity of my avatar

Rarity posted:

I dunno, doesn't sound like there's much evidence left...

When I saw Endgame in theaters, I was running late and sure I had missed the opening. As I walked in the cinema, I saw this huge vista of swirling sand dunes on the screen and thought, "Holy poo poo, a desert of people dust? That's bleak!"

Nope, just the trailer for the live action Aladdin movie. You can't imagine the let down.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




thrawn527 posted:

But wouldn't he have also explained what happened after the Battle of New York? Including a picture, or at least a really good artist rendering, of Loki? People would demand answers after something like that. "What happened? Well, we saved the day," wouldn't really cut it, I think.

They ,made a broadway musical about it.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

thrawn527 posted:

I originally just meant it as a direct analogy for people knowing the person who launched a major attack against New York, because of course the news would have to address it. It's gotten a little nuts since then.

That's fair, but most (all?) footage of Loki released to the general audience in the MCU was him pole-dancing in Germany and what footage they got in Avengers HQ and so forth, right? He was wearing his green armour (?) thing and helmet and so forth. If I'd seen that on the teevee a few times, and you showed me, an MCU rando, Loki v.2 in the TVA over-alls or a normal suit, I might not put two and two together. Of course goon face blindness, etc.



The US military tried to illustrate how a fugitive Hitler might disguise himself, the same could apply to Loki. Of course by now we've spent a lot more (silly) thought on this than K.E.V.I.N. ever will, so

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Loki was in a suit on NYC streets for like five minutes. It’s really not something that needs to be hyper analyzed why no one recognized him at random and started something. Especially in New York City where celebrities routinely walk around without most people giving a poo poo. And that’s without the Clark Kent Effect where no one recognizes Loki as the alien invasion leading war despot demigod because he’s not doing alien invasion leading war despot demigod things. So even if you think the guy kind of looks like Loki, nah.

It just really isn’t a thing that needs to be answered. He wasn’t recognized because he wasn’t recognized in the short time he was out there.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

STAC Goat posted:

Loki was in a suit on NYC streets for like five minutes. It’s really not something that needs to be hyper analyzed why no one recognized him at random and started something. Especially in New York City where celebrities routinely walk around without most people giving a poo poo. And that’s without the Clark Kent Effect where no one recognizes Loki as the alien invasion leading war despot demigod because he’s not doing alien invasion leading war despot demigod things. So even if you think the guy kind of looks like Loki, nah.

It just really isn’t a thing that needs to be answered. He wasn’t recognized because he wasn’t recognized in the short time he was out there.

Yeah, this. Loki getting recognized is only going to be a thing a later if the MCU decides to make it a thing later. Earth has been through things that were considerably worse than Thor's pissy younger brother.

Hell, Loki's a master of illusion. For all we know while he was with Thor in NYC during Ragnorak he looked like someone other than Loki to everybody else except Dr. Strange and Thor.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

STAC Goat posted:

Loki was in a suit on NYC streets for like five minutes. It’s really not something that needs to be hyper analyzed why no one recognized him at random and started something. Especially in New York City where celebrities routinely walk around without most people giving a poo poo. And that’s without the Clark Kent Effect where no one recognizes Loki as the alien invasion leading war despot demigod because he’s not doing alien invasion leading war despot demigod things. So even if you think the guy kind of looks like Loki, nah.

It just really isn’t a thing that needs to be answered. He wasn’t recognized because he wasn’t recognized in the short time he was out there.

Sure, but Thor was recognized under similar circumstances? Except he wasn’t responsible for a massive attack on New York, the city they were in?

But you’re right, it doesn’t matter. So I’m gonna move on. Sorry.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Ding.

Sivart13
May 18, 2003
I have neglected to come up with a clever title

Sivart13 posted:

Coming out of Spider-Verse I would have also been happy if the show was a comic book cel shaded She-Hulk interacting with the other characters Roger/Jessica Rabbit style.
upon later reflection I just reinvented Son of Zorn, idea retracted

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Everyone already forgot about the gigantic stone hand appearing in the middle of the ocean, and the also gigantic space person that appeared suddenly, spoke, and left just as quickly.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

It would be interesting if they ever did some kind of project that explored the general cultural state of the world or understanding of events. We’ve gotten the teases off documentaries and tell all books and podcasts and stuff. But I imagine that like the world is filled with people yelling about fake news and conspiracy theories and people in middle America working too hard and dismissing all that coastal stuff and probably a bunch of kids making deep fakes and cgi fake events and poo poo. It’s probably a loving mess.

And that’s without all the doomsday cults and white supremacists worshiping Asgardians and evangelicals calling it all evil and poo poo.

Like half the media in America spent this week arguing that the sky being orange and breathing in smoke was ok and to say otherwise was woke conspiracy. The MCU world is probably even dumber.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Jun 10, 2023

MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

I want a 90 minute comedy that’s centered around Zach Cherry’s character and his weird little interactions with superheroes. Dude moved from NYC to San Francisco and still can’t stop running into them.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

MokBa posted:

I want a 90 minute comedy that’s centered around Zach Cherry’s character and his weird little interactions with superheroes. Dude moved from NYC to San Francisco and still can’t stop running into them.

Its the side effect of having his mind separated from his work life.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

STAC Goat posted:

It would be interesting if they ever did some kind of project that explored the general cultural state of the world or understanding of events. We’ve gotten the teases off documentaries and tell all books and podcasts and stuff. But I imagine that like the world is filled with people yelling about fake news and conspiracy theories and people in middle America working too hard and dismissing all that coastal stuff and probably a bunch of kids making deep fakes and cgi fake events and poo poo. It’s probably a loving mess.

You mean you missed all the stuff about the flag waver and the green guy in the Netflix shows? :v: (god I hated that)

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

thrawn527 posted:

Sure, but Thor was recognized under similar circumstances? Except he wasn’t responsible for a massive attack on New York, the city they were in?

But you’re right, it doesn’t matter. So I’m gonna move on. Sorry.

To the extent I thought about it, I figured that people on the street recognized Thor because he's the super-handsome/sexy god of thunder, Thor. They didn't recognize Loki because "who-gives-a-gently caress-about-the-guy-next-to-Thor-because-holy-poo poo-that's-Thor!" You had a similar situation in Endgame where the kids want a selfie with Hulk but don't give the slightest poo poo about getting one with Ant-Man.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Thor had been around a lot more. It was implied he had been on Earth a lot between Avengers 1 and 2. He was an Avenger, a hero, a movie star looks god. Probably kids with posters and toys and stuff of him and women going crazy over him and all. He's also friendly and more open. He's also on the streets longer since he has to go to Strange's house alone. And even if someone recognizes him doesn't mean they'd also recognize Loki. And like again its a context thing a lot of the time. Maybe the idea of running into Thor on the streets is something some people would accept because he's a celebrity and as I said they're all over NYC. But like Loki is a boogeyman. He's a war despot. He's some alien that invaded. So even if you knew what he looked like, even if you recognized Thor, even if you knew Thor was his brother, even if you thought that guy next to him kind of looked like Loki... your subconscious still is like "nah, why would he just be here? He's in a prison or doing evil poo poo somewhere or something."

A lot of this stuff is just human nature and it feels like now more than every after everything we've lived through we should understand more than ever how people are able to believe whatever they want to believe and ignore whatever they want to ignore without even trying.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
the mod team violated the sancity of my avatar
Also, y’know, he wasn’t wearing the big gold horns.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Yeah I can definitely see people going

"Wait is that international terrorist/supervillain Loki?"

"No dude, Loki wouldn't just be standing on the sidewalk in a suit. Especially with Thor right there, now come on we're gonna be late for our movie!"

AJA
Mar 28, 2015
"Is that Loki?"

"nah, bro, Loki was just a false-flag operation! Jade Helm, on the other hand, tho,

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo
"Hey, isn't that Loki?"

"Nah, dude, that's obviously Matt Damon."

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

STAC Goat posted:

It would be interesting if they ever did some kind of project that explored the general cultural state of the world or understanding of events. We’ve gotten the teases off documentaries and tell all books and podcasts and stuff. But I imagine that like the world is filled with people yelling about fake news and conspiracy theories and people in middle America working too hard and dismissing all that coastal stuff and probably a bunch of kids making deep fakes and cgi fake events and poo poo. It’s probably a loving mess.

And that’s without all the doomsday cults and white supremacists worshiping Asgardians and evangelicals calling it all evil and poo poo.

Like half the media in America spent this week arguing that the sky being orange and breathing in smoke was ok and to say otherwise was woke conspiracy. The MCU world is probably even dumber.

Instead of flat earthers, they have ocean handers.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



https://twitter.com/MCU_Direct/status/1667772238223867904?t=e-hd56DmXgYN9S7clAVBng&s=19

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Feige's going to have to overhaul his private detective department.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

live with fruit posted:

Feige's going to have to overhaul his private detective department.

Or maybe get a private detective/background check department. I don't think telling Dave the Intern to "Go Google Actor X" is cutting it.

I will say that this part of the article seems a little hinky:

quote:

As reported by Mexican outlet Reforma, the accusations against Huerta began after Rios claimed Poder Prieto published a podcast episode that she was a part of without paying her.

It sounds like this article is trying to undermine this woman's credibility.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Studios are getting real good at casting villains in villain roles

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Everyone posted:

Or maybe get a private detective/background check department. I don't think telling Dave the Intern to "Go Google Actor X" is cutting it.


To be fair, Dave had just finished googling costars for Sean Gunn and used the wrong word filter.

Edit: dumb brain thought they were reapers.

Ninurta fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jun 12, 2023

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Infinitum posted:

Studios are getting real good at casting villains in villain roles

Dark but accurate

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
DC hosed it with Barry Allen though

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LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler

Rarity posted:

DC hosed it with Barry Allen though

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