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first you make it good for the users to capture a userbase then you make it good for the people who do business on it then you run that poo poo into the ground for both groups and make out like a bandit it’s called enshittification and it’s on purpose the panacea posted:https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/ saved from the last page
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The Voice of Labor posted:reddit, where a sub for photos of sexy 13 y/os can be the most popular sub but where you can't say that slave owners should die without catching a ban Thank gently caress I think they banned the most egregious examples of that, but it’s also hilarious that they’re going to be going public as a company that must therefore increase in value, presumably through ads, and the concept is still, like, “here’s the section of our site about video games, here’s the section of our site about cute cats, here’s the section of our site about bukakke, here’s the section of our site about alt-right bullshit, here’s the part of our site about cars…”
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lol forever if both reddit and twitter poo poo themselves and die before something awful does
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Trump bought Twitter because he wanted to make a fascism.
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teemolover42069 posted:lol forever if both reddit and twitter poo poo themselves and die before something awful does Yes it will be awesome for two of the most used places for worker unity being destroyed.
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Toxic Mental posted:I guess reddit is willing to sacrifice the blind screenreader demographic in favor of the "people who can actually see ads" demographic I see what u did there 
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GolfHole posted:tech sites never made money to begin with There are solutions to this beyond outright killing 3rd party apps. Reddit already has a premium tier that lets you browse ad-free, restrict apps to that. Or charge them, but allow them the same access to content as the 1st party app and let them make up the revenue themselves via their own ads or subscriptions. Pricing high, restricting the content you can see even if you somehow stomach the ridiculous prices, and then limiting your customers' ability to make up the cost themselves is literally the worst of all possible worlds. Reddit's management is simultaneously claiming, "3rd party apps cost us so much to support booo we're losing ad revenue from so many useeeeers" while at the same time saying, "we don't think the impact of killing 3rd party apps will be that bad, only a small minority of users use them". Which is it? Are they a material threat to your business and profitability, or are you kicking up a big, public shitstorm over a tiny percentage of your user base right before an IPO?
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Phat Phingers posted:A part of me is happy because some unsufferable Reddit mods may disappear, but another part of me is unhappy because Reddit is actually a decent site (majority of the time) and a LOT of good content & subs may go missing. About 10-12 years ago it was the main draw to the site. It finally was taken down when Goons started organizing a campaign on these here forums to get press releases out. Days after that the Anderson Cooper story broke.
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How does SA even stay open this long? I would imagine that new  spenders are few and far between, this place is definitely back in the corner of the internet compared to what it was like 10+ years ago.
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hello internet posted:How does SA even stay open this long? I would imagine that new People getting riled up and buying other people avatars
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From the looks of the leper colony Driftingmouse reregs are paying for a significant portion of the upkeep.
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teemolover42069 posted:lol forever if both reddit and twitter poo poo themselves and die before something awful does the forums shall be the henry kissinger of social media
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feverish and oversexed posted:who else is back because of it lol Yep
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hello internet posted:How does SA even stay open this long? I would imagine that new ads dude. it's always ads
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hello internet posted:How does SA even stay open this long? I would imagine that new https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4019306
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Bonzo posted:About 10-12 years ago it was the main draw to the site. It finally was taken down when Goons started organizing a campaign on these here forums to get press releases out. Days after that the Anderson Cooper story broke. It was never the main draw of the site, by any metric. They weren't refusing to remove it because it was just that popular, they were refusing to remove it because an admin was a mod there.
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hello internet posted:How does SA even stay open this long? I would imagine that new It turns out it’s fairly easy to keep a webforums afloat when you arent on the hook for billions of dollars of future profit to investors and don’t need to pay an entire C-suite of lovely tech executives to sit around and pretend to be useful
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hello internet posted:How does SA even stay open this long? I would imagine that new It doesn't cost a whole lot to keep running despite what the former fearless leader told everyone
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This is a good read. Thanks
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:Reddit already has a premium tier that lets you browse ad-free, restrict apps to that. It does? Reddit is truly terrible at monetizing Reddit, holy poo poo.
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Putty posted:Would be real enlightening to see these mega social apps actually die. All the offshoot ones don't seem popular at all so I'm guessing social media will just wither to nothing. Gonna cash out my 401k and put it all into forum upgrades and burner accounts.
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I only really started redditing after a SCI led to a mental breakdown. So the traditional path to becoming a redditor I guess. I never really "left" SA but, I just moved into lurking mode. Popped in from time to time to laugh at coiners / star citizens.
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the panacea posted:https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/ Great article but the article posted:I just handed Twitter $8 for Twitter Blue, because the company has strongly implied that it will only show the things I post to the people who asked to see them if I pay ransom money. lmao what a sucker
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Yes it will be awesome for two of the most used places for worker unity being destroyed. I just said I would laugh, forever. i didn't say it was awesome (it is awesome)
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Instead of sticking it to the app developers they could have simply said that if you want to use a 3rd party app you have to be subscribed to their gold/platinum/whatever tier of paid sub. That way they can weaponize their lovely web and app UI into a profit.
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I had just assumed this place was slowly crumbling, but that’s a lot of love and care put into keeping it running and maintainable. Good to see.
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spouse posted:It does? Reddit is truly terrible at monetizing Reddit, holy poo poo. Yep, it's honestly baffling. If they had just said, "hey we're losing ad revenue on third-party apps; if you want to use them, you'll have to pay up the $6/month fee," I would gladly have paid it; but there's no way in hell I'm going to switch to their horrible first-party app. Equally baffling is that in the last few years, they went from ~400 employees (2019) to over 2000. If you want to look for a source of profitability problems, maybe that's where to look? It's not like users are clamouring for all kinds of new features that you need heaps and heaps of devs for. It could be mostly keeping the lights on.
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:Equally baffling is that in the last few years, they went from ~400 employees (2019) to over 2000. If you want to look for a source of profitability problems, maybe that's where to look? They just rif'd 5% of their workforce a week ago (or announced it at least)
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:reddit? more like deaddit lmao owned lol
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Yes it will be awesome for two of the most used places for worker unity being destroyed. this is the first time in my life i have seen reddit described as a platform used for worker unity
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cum calamity posted:this is the first time in my life i have seen reddit described as a platform used for worker unity I am an aviation industry related union shop steward and organizer and this gave me a good hearty lol I’ll be honest and attributing anything regarding worker unity to them is… interesting. In practice it’s the source of a bunch of failed general strike attempts because people seem to think if they just share an image that says when the general strike is on Reddit that it’ll be a thing we are all gonna just hop straight into I agree somewhat with the sentiment of r/antiwork but if you read it for a few mins it’s a bunch of people who are massively deluded into thinking the end of capitalism is also the end of work
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you know when people get angry at whatever new CoD is coming out and all say they're going to boycott it, only to all be playing it 2 days later? That's what's happening with reddit
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:People getting riled up and buying other people avatars The urge to troll has been directed to a few acceptable outlets and monetized.
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Gringo Heisenberg posted:you know when people get angry at whatever new CoD is coming out and all say they're going to boycott it, only to all be playing it 2 days later? That's what's happening with reddit /r/videos Mods said they will remain dark for as long as it takes. But even they admit they'll likely just have their accounts suspended and it'll be back.
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Bonzo posted:/r/videos Mods said they will remain dark for as long as it takes. But even they admit they'll likely just have their accounts suspended and it'll be back. or someone else will just make videos2 and everyone will move there
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Bonzo posted:About 10-12 years ago it was the main draw to the site. It finally was taken down when Goons started organizing a campaign on these here forums to get press releases out. Days after that the Anderson Cooper story broke.
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Reddit is useful if you think of all the megathreads in videogames, and see how they have ballooned over time. It get really hard to follow stuff of that size, especially if you are only looking for quick answers to issues about dialog options or bugs and don't want to wait for something you are pretty sure was answered elsewhere. So now say the xenoblade megathreads over the years translated to reddit would be shattered into all these various discussions that are easily accessible via searching the subreddit or google. For Q&A and other things like "what does this status effect do exactly?" Its useful.
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I’m itchy where’s the flashlight subforum. All my hobbies require external validation.
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Cellular Suicide posted:I’m itchy where’s the flashlight subforum. All my hobbies require external validation. Debate & Discussion. ...Oh, you said FLASHlight. I dunno, sorry.
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