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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Nix Panicus posted:How popular is Tolkien outside of English speaking cultures? Or I guess more broadly western based fantasy, because the concept of orcs has spread via World of Warcraft and D&D as much as its Tolkien progenitor. What metrics do you want to run off to define popular by culture? Personally I think I first remember orcs as "AD&D monster" and "Warhammer army faction".
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Jun 13, 2023 11:06
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DancingShade posted:I prefer the original link: Lol what a bizarre detail to list for a news company Besides the founding date being just after the maidan
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Jun 13, 2023 11:07
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HiroProtagonist posted:Lol what a bizarre detail to list for a news company They'd work a lot better as a propaganda arm if they didn't leave a digital footprint wider than their arse across the internet. But again, they're a certain group of americans. Self promotion and public CVs for next_job might work in regular land but come on, doing that when you're making propaganda? loving fail kids.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:10
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DancingShade posted:What metrics do you want to run off to define popular by culture? How much penetration does the idea of 'orc' have in Eastern Europe? Based on the popularity of Lord of the Rings, WoW, and D&D I would guess most Americans are familiar with what an orc is, but is it as common elsewhere?
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Jun 13, 2023 11:12
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Nix Panicus posted:How much penetration does the idea of 'orc' have in Eastern Europe? Based on the popularity of Lord of the Rings, WoW, and D&D I would guess most Americans are familiar with what an orc is, but is it as common elsewhere? Warhammer is pretty popular. Back when I still hammed the war I bought my fair share of 3rd party original resin sculpts from Eastern and Southern Europe. Italy, Ukraine, Poland etc. Top quality originals, all deserving of a better painter than my ten thumbs. The problem with calling Russians "orcs" as I see it is the WH40k faction "orks" are really loving good. Like I haven't played for a long time but my old chaos marines would get rolled up most of the time against an orc opponent because they out melee'd and out shot me. So calling Russians "orcs" is more funny than anything. As a 40k player I wouldn't see it as derogatory but as a comical moniker. Oh those orks, they're loving unstoppable once they get a good waaaah going, haha. etc It's fail kid propaganda.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:15
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yeah orcs are evil in lotr but outside of that aren't they mostly loveable scamps?
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Jun 13, 2023 11:18
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Nix Panicus posted:How much penetration does the idea of 'orc' have in Eastern Europe? Based on the popularity of Lord of the Rings, WoW, and D&D I would guess most Americans are familiar with what an orc is, but is it as common elsewhere? I don't think it's any less common than elsewhere. I don't know anyone who hasn't either read/watched Lord of the Rings, or played WoW (or earlier Warcraft games), except very old people. WoW used to have (has?) dedicated Russian servers. The LotR films were well into the era when Western films got dubbed into Russian and shown in cinemas.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:19
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CODChimera posted:yeah orcs are evil in lotr but outside of that aren't they mostly loveable scamps? From Culture vs. Kultur: Thoughts on Orkish Society by Uthan the Perverse, a controversial Eldar philosopher The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn? And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn't even bother to ask! We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude. . . Xanthius, High Lord of Terra The Orks plague the galaxy from the end to end with their ceaseless warring and strife. They are a race rooted so deeply in war that peace is utterly incomprehensible to them. They cannot be bargained with or bought save with weapons that they will inevitable turn against those who tried to bribe them. I pray with all my faith that some great catastrophe will annihilate them but I fear that ultimately it is they, not we, who shall rule the galaxy. . . Genetor Aurelius Thoze, Adeptus Mechanicus Xenobiologist. Ork Physiology is fascinating and terrifying in equal measure, demonstrating inhuman degrees of resilience to the point where they can withstand seemingly fatal wounds with little apparent long-term consequence. Indeed, Orks witnessed suffering fatal wounds in the midst of heavy fighting have often been observed again several days later, larger and stronger than they were before their injuries and with no sign of those wounds save for some largely superficial scarring.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:20
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Western fail kids wearing Ukraine skins making propaganda: #1 (wearing Marvel comics t-shirt) Let's call Russians orcs, that'll show them. lol! #2 (wearing vegan life t-shirt) Right on, how about a craft IPA at the local brewery on our walk to the vegan street food vendor? . . Tell me I haven't encapsulated it.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:23
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Didn’t the cringe Harry Potter musical lady the Biden Admin hired to be truth tsar or whatever start out in one of these organic Ukrainian NGOs that arose after March 2014?
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Jun 13, 2023 11:24
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Frosted Flake posted:Didn’t the cringe Harry Potter musical lady the Biden Admin hired to be truth tsar or whatever start out in one of these organic Ukrainian NGOs that arose after March 2014? https://www.wilsoncenter.org/person/nina-jankowicz Nina Jankowicz studies the intersection of democracy and technology in Central and Eastern Europe. She is the author of How To Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News, and the Future of Conflict (Bloomsbury/IBTauris). Ms. Jankowicz has advised the Ukrainian government on strategic communications under the auspices of a Fulbright-Clinton Public Policy Fellowship. Her writing has been published by The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, and others. She is a frequent television and radio commentator on disinformation and Russian and Eastern European affairs. Prior to her Fulbright grant in Ukraine, Ms. Jankowicz managed democracy assistance programs to Russia and Belarus at the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs. She received her MA in Russian, Eurasian, and East European Studies from Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service, and her BA from Bryn Mawr College. Digital footprint. Arse wide.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:27
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DancingShade posted:I prefer the original link: what's the link between that vu website and publishing house media llc? that ukr voice site is registered as VYDAVNYCHYY DIM MEDIA-DK LLC which seems like a different thing?
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Jun 13, 2023 11:27
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DancingShade posted:Warhammer is pretty popular. Back when I still hammed the war I bought my fair share of 3rd party original resin sculpts from Eastern and Southern Europe. Italy, Ukraine, Poland etc. Top quality originals, all deserving of a better painter than my ten thumbs. i'm suddenly reminded of the head of that bolivian NGO that was bleating about evo morales burning down the rain forest who couldn't stop mentioning all over her social media accounts that she was the great-granddaughter of a former bolivian dictator if the fail kids don't plaster their identities all over their propaganda how will anyone higher up in the state department ever know it was them who made it???
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Jun 13, 2023 11:29
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double nine posted:what's the link between that vu website and publishing house media llc? Use a VPN so your computer thinks you aren't American and do some google searches.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:32
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double nine posted:what's the link between that vu website and publishing house media llc? click the donate button and check out who it wants US and EU citizens to send money to oh and VYDAVNYCHYY DIM MEDIA-DK LLC is just PUBLISHING HOUSE MEDIA-DC LLC in romanized ukrainian lol BEAR GRYLLZ has issued a correction as of 11:39 on Jun 13, 2023 |
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Jun 13, 2023 11:33
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:i'm suddenly reminded of the head of that bolivian NGO that was bleating about evo morales burning down the rain forest who couldn't stop mentioning all over her social media accounts that she was the great-granddaughter of a former bolivian dictator Gotta self promote for the next gig once the current one starts to dry up. I just realised this is basically propaganda by Etsy with more pretense.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:34
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Warcraft Orcs, even as early as Warcraft 2, were characterized as being more than simply pure evil and had a complicated past that tried to contextualize their conflict with Humans (and other races), with Warcraft 3 and WoW expanding on this concept greatly even the tabletop RPG industry went through this whole cycle in tune with the George Floyd protests where they acknowledged that writing entire fantasy races as merely being uniformly and "naturally" evil was problematic and have tried to move in a different direction as a result and then Feb 2022 hits and all that poo poo goes out the window: Russians are Orcs, and Orcs are uniformly bad, by birthright
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Jun 13, 2023 11:34
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Nix Panicus posted:
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Regarde Aduck posted:holy poo poo the emoji
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Jun 13, 2023 11:34
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Weird AlDancingShade posted:Jankowicz
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Jun 13, 2023 11:35
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Alpha 1 posted:You don't have to wonder where they're supposed to get a fourth army from. Ukraine is already begging for more tanks! Regarde Aduck posted:holy poo poo the emoji Where are your Leopards Ukraine? What did you do with all the tanks we just gave you?!?  I don't normally post image responses owing to how annoying they are on mobile. So apologies if that was out of line but it just seemed to fit.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:37
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this reminds me, didn't they make a warcraft movie? is it any good?
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Jun 13, 2023 11:38
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DancingShade posted:They'd work a lot better as a propaganda arm if they didn't leave a digital footprint wider than their arse across the internet. it's not like you have to be subtle about these things when your target audience consists of western shitlibs
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Jun 13, 2023 11:40
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tazjin posted:this reminds me, didn't they make a warcraft movie? is it any good? I have it on Blu-ray! I don't know. I'm not young enough to enjoy those sorts of things anymore. Seemed well made, I guess. Cheesy high budget.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:41
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tazjin posted:this reminds me, didn't they make a warcraft movie? is it any good? I liked it.
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Jun 13, 2023 11:41
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tazjin posted:this reminds me, didn't they make a warcraft movie? is it any good? from what I recall it did poorly everywhere outside of China where it did gigantic numbers for some reason
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Jun 13, 2023 11:42
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even tolkeins orcs were corrupted versions of the originals, like saruman built super soldiers of them
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Jun 13, 2023 11:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWW6__7ogf4
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Jun 13, 2023 11:52
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Is the Warcraft movie good? I wouldn’t call it a bad movie, and I even think it holds up well in a lot of ways, it is just sort of puzzling. There are some interesting choices made in it for sure, but ultimately I think you can say that it was made by people who were fans, but kind of weird, like aliens who happen to be very earnest Warcraft fans and don’t quite seem to understand what makes the setting fun for people. I feel like if they went in a more zoomed in direction more like the recent D&D movie it might have been more successful ,but you could tell they really were excited to tell the whole overarching epic Warcraft story with sequels planned and everything so it was kind of all over the place as one movie. Definitely some good orcs in it for sure. Strongly recommended 10/10
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Jun 13, 2023 12:03
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gradenko_2000 posted:Warcraft Orcs, even as early as Warcraft 2, were characterized as being more than simply pure evil and had a complicated past that tried to contextualize their conflict with Humans (and other races), with Warcraft 3 and WoW expanding on this concept greatly On a slight tangent, but the Pathfinder people recently decided that the Drow - the race of black skinned elves who mostly live underground in a femdom society that worships an evil spider goddess - weren't worth trying to redeem and they're ditching them entirely as part of their effort to fully differentiate themselves from D&D. Now the menace of the underworld in Pathfinder products is going to be snake people. Its a loss for spider themed femdom lovers, but I think sometimes its worthwhile to stop trying to fix an inherently lovely concept and just chuck it in the trash and start over.
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Jun 13, 2023 12:40
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Ah, the underground reptiloids. A classic.
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Jun 13, 2023 12:43
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Nix Panicus posted:On a slight tangent, but the Pathfinder people recently decided that the Drow - the race of black skinned elves who mostly live underground in a femdom society that worships an evil spider goddess - weren't worth trying to redeem and they're ditching them entirely as part of their effort to fully differentiate themselves from D&D. Now the menace of the underworld in Pathfinder products is going to be snake people. Its a loss for spider themed femdom lovers, but I think sometimes its worthwhile to stop trying to fix an inherently lovely concept and just chuck it in the trash and start over. It's kind of funny that the most meaningful usage of the drow in recent memory was killing that one episode of Community stone dead.
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Jun 13, 2023 12:43
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Nix Panicus posted:On a slight tangent, but the Pathfinder people recently decided that the Drow - the race of black skinned elves who mostly live underground in a femdom society that worships an evil spider goddess - weren't worth trying to redeem and they're ditching them entirely as part of their effort to fully differentiate themselves from D&D. Now the menace of the underworld in Pathfinder products is going to be snake people. Its a loss for spider themed femdom lovers, but I think sometimes its worthwhile to stop trying to fix an inherently lovely concept and just chuck it in the trash and start over. Sexy snake ladies > man eating spiders, was the logic I suppose. It all depends on how good the cheesecake art is really. Some kind of modern Larry Elmore who can crank out lots of ladies in metal underwear, which is magic so it doesn't pinch in ways that would make anyone's eyes water.
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Jun 13, 2023 12:45
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Lostconfused posted:Ah, the underground reptiloids. A classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ2o_7YdbXY
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Jun 13, 2023 13:03
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Slavvy posted:There will be no civil war, just a protracted political instability motivated factional insurgency conflict The American Emergency
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Jun 13, 2023 13:09
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orcs in Tolkien are only “evil” becuase the entire narrative is from the POV of the elves and their allied people (ie NATO)
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Jun 13, 2023 13:40
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StashAugustine posted:The American Emergency A mostly peaceful emergency, says the government endorsed reporter in front of a burning city skyline covered in plumes of smoke.
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Jun 13, 2023 13:46
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wasn't there a rewrite of LOTR to invert that and see it from the perspective of the orcs
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Jun 13, 2023 13:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:wasn't there a rewrite of LOTR to invert that and see it from the perspective of the orcs The Last Ringbearer, which is a Russian book (tellingly!!) seriously though it's not very good, it's kind of a waste of the concept
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John Charity Spring posted:The Last Ringbearer, which is a Russian book (tellingly!!) quote:Two Orc soldiers ("Orc" being a racial slur used by the West: the Orcs in Eskov's book are humans), ... 
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