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Shame Boy posted:I'm not talking about them replacing an actual person or a physical process, I know why companies would want to do that. This was just replacing a web form with a... hard to use command line interface. Right, I'm saying having the clunky UI and chatbot as the only way you can communicate leads to a black box. They're paying for the magic black box to launder their actions. They can blame it for things and you have no proof you submitted a proper legal form, or tried to follow the proper path of escalation. It doesn't need to replace their employee, it's insurance.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:why is this capitalism.png? Are we assuming it's replacing a person? counterpoint: they are absolutely not good at search
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:LLMs are very good at search My understanding is that it's literally the opposite.
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It's like that short doc about how difficult it can be to even figure out your landlord's email address or who they even are with an extra step of obfuscation to make it more difficult while pretending to be helpful.
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They've been trying to automate my job for ten years but then it all boils down to "hey how do you know when to do X???" and I'm like "my head is massive, how do you know when to wear those really ugly trousers, shitlord?" e: Our biggest customer has forbidden them to fire me lamo.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:They've been trying to automate my job for ten years but then it all boils down to "hey how do you know when to do X???" and I'm like "my head is massive, how do you know when to wear those really ugly trousers, shitlord?" The last time I ended up in that situation it just meant I couldn't go on vacation anymore.
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wash bucket posted:The last time I ended up in that situation it just meant I couldn't go on vacation anymore. Yeah well we have laws about that. E
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I dodnt mean E but is application steed worki
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drat. She forgot to add the word "reddit" to her queries to make sure she got useful results
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I can fix her.LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:drat.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:drat. r/richpeoplecrimes is blacked out unfortunately
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:drat. You mean "I'm Mirencraft"
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3D Megadoodoo posted:You mean "I'm Mirencraft" Hi Mirencraft, I thought you were rad in The Queen
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Weatherman posted:Hi Mirencraft, I thought you were rad in The Queen Tanks.
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Doctors Remove Woman’s Brain Implant Against Her Willquote:A woman whose epilepsy was greatly improved by an experimental brain implant was devastated when, just two years after getting it, she was forced to have it removed due to the company that made it going bankrupt.
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I was thinking "Well if there's no responsible entity I guess it sorta makes sense to mandate that it be removed instead of figure out the liability" but quote:She and her husband attempted to fight the demand, attempting to buy the implant outright and, as University of Tasmania ethicist and paper coauthor Frederic Gilbert told the Tech Review, remortgaging their house to do so. They were unsuccessful, and she was the last person to get the Neuravista BCI removed. No it's because it was expensive
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ekuNNN posted:Doctors Remove Woman’s Brain Implant Against Her Will I saw this a little while ago on Twitter and want to preface this with being clear that the entire thing is a hosed up result of capitalism but isn’t quite as described. in short - circa 2010 a medical device company funded a clinical trial with these implants. they went out of business before the clinical trial was published. they told everyone in the trial to have the trial hardware removed (no support) and dissolved the company. this woman just ignored that and continued using the device for about another 5 years before having it removed. this paper then covered the patient’s experiences over the next 5 years. it’s not exactly clear precisely what happened, but I have a guess from the time frame - the rechargeable battery died. that’s about the right time frame for that to happen. the problem now is that nobody is going to take take over support for that now one off medical device. it probably was not even designed to be serviceable. the company that manufactured it has been gone for 5 years at this point. even with whatever they had from mortgaging the house that is not going to cover recreating whatever it was the now defunct company did and then create a new new clinical trial. all that’s left for their physicians to do is to remove the now useless device.
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hobbesmaster posted:I saw this a little while ago on Twitter and want to preface this with being clear that the entire thing is a hosed up result of capitalism but isn’t quite as described. best system there is baby!
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:why is this capitalism.png? Are we assuming it's replacing a person?
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Tiggum posted:I don't know how maintenance requests for rental properties work wherever you live, but here the standard procedure is to write an email. So instead of writing "the kitchen tap is leaking, please send a plumber to fix it" the real estate agency now wants us to go to their website and try to figure out how the gently caress to get a chatbot to send that email on our behalf, give up, and put up with the leaky tap minus a security deposit because that faucet didn't leak when you moved in
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ekuNNN posted:Doctors Remove Woman’s Brain Implant Against Her Will Oh hey cool we’re making Repo! The Genetic Opera a real thing now
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starkebn posted:best system there is baby! the soviets used an external AA battery pack
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hobbesmaster posted:I saw this a little while ago on Twitter and want to preface this with being clear that the entire thing is a hosed up result of capitalism but isn’t quite as described. So she has a medical condition that is entirely treatable, but nobody has figured out a way to make a profit on treating it and that's our societies method for determining whether to allocate resources to treatment so welp?
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Orange Devil posted:So she has a medical condition that is entirely treatable, but nobody has figured out a way to make a profit on treating it and that's our societies method for determining whether to allocate resources to treatment so welp? Better luck next life!
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Regarding searches: The sort of ais used for chatbots, if trained correctly, are genuinely useful for greatly narrowing down searches in large piles of data where you don't care about a relatively small number of false positives. But it's useful only in a "assist an expert" way, not a "replace an expert" way. You still need someone who actually knows the subject to look at the results and go "this is bullshit, this is bullshit, ok this is good, this is bullshit, this is good too". It's a multiplier to your labor, not an addition/replacement. I'm genuinely curious about what will come out of the more "game" like elements of the chatbots. The chatGPT 'social engineering hacker simulator' where you phish, impersonate, etc to get a bunch of info out of simulated clerks and lonely IT department people was a fun way to kill an hour in the bus. Which reminds me... The stuff I'm genuinely concerned about is how much the chatbots ease the falsification of data. I'm not talking fake news, I'm talking (even more) fake science getting past peer review. For scientific papers involving statistics, there's a bunch of methods for tracking down anomalies, weird numbers fuckery, similarities to other published papers etc. Obviously, a person who is comitted to skillfully falsifying data is going to outdo anything the chatbot can do, with ease - but this isn't about them, it's about the chatbots significantly lowering the bar for what it takes to get away with it. Good news: Chatbots are kinda dumb, leave their own kind of trails, and still leave gaps that someone can use to catch onto the bullshit. Bad news: This is a situation where you can reliably expect the falsifier to have some expertize on the subject matter. People who could otherwise bullshit their false data past their peers have been caught red handed for just literally just copy-pasting the same set of numbers a bunch of times... But discovering this poo poo takes time and someone else's effort, during all of which people unaware of it might reference the falsified papers in their own research and ruin their own work with it, and again, the chatbot's help can significantly increase the time it takes for someone to go "well that's weird", especially in a niche field. poo poo like this usually gets caught because the perpetrator was lazy, but the stuff they usually half-assed is exactly the sort of poo poo that the chatbot is good at coming up with (if you're not concerned about things like "actually being correct")
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Even without AI I see a bunch of dummies in my field who have replaced experts with tech in my field. I've had multiple customers and vendors just this years use incorrect proper shipping names for hazardous materials because the software they pay too much money for spit out the wrong results. I can send them letters of interpretation and direct CFR that shows it's wrong, but they counter the software vendors they use are big and surely it can't be wrong because they haven't gotten in trouble yet.
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Orange Devil posted:So she has a medical condition that is entirely treatable, but nobody has figured out a way to make a profit on treating it and that's our societies method for determining whether to allocate resources to treatment so welp? Great real good to do it that way everyone agrees
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my dad posted:Regarding searches: The sort of ais used for chatbots, if trained correctly, are genuinely useful for greatly narrowing down searches in large piles of data where you don't care about a relatively small number of false positives.
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Ruffian Price posted:Plus, OpenAI's chat webapp is set to generate more false positives, randomly choosing less probable tokens as that's what gets you the insane Seinfeld scripts as opposed to boring, robotic answers. An LLM with low temperature set and fine-tuned on your indexed database will be really good at finding specific entries in response to natural language queries. OpenAI basically has an ACCURATE/IMPRESSIVE switch on their Krusty doll and left it on IMPRESSIVE to get investor attention Theyre bad, op
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tokin opposition posted:the soviets used an external AA battery pack the sega nomad is the console of the proletariat
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search already worked fine it’s only gotten worse with google adding fake ai bullshit, llms really have no use they’re just blockchain 3.0 (NFTs were 2.0), anything they can do normal algorithms do better
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Orange Devil posted:So she has a medical condition that is entirely treatable, but nobody has figured out a way to make a profit on treating it and that's our societies method for determining whether to allocate resources to treatment so welp? yeah. I’d have to find the journal paper again but iirc she was on the only patient that had such a dramatic improvement with it. this is all in Australia btw
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Maed posted:search already worked fine it’s only gotten worse with google adding fake ai bullshit, llms really have no use they’re just blockchain 3.0 (NFTs were 2.0), anything they can do normal algorithms do better Can an algorithm turn into cortana from halo 4 and be my girlfriend? I think not 
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