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Stux posted:this is so backwards its crazy. i have one levelled glyph giving me more overpower damage than exists on all the necro paragon boards, and more than the 430 willpower ive got provides. for a whole 7 paragon points. youre grinding a dungeon to get xp so you can eventually grind the nm dungeons which give xp + the actual rewards you want and think this is more efficient lol Where did you get the idea that I haven't leveled my glyphs and paragons? I have 3 glyphs at level 15 giving me some chonky benefits - but going past that is meaningless (for now) - and the NM dungeons themselves suck for XP, and aren't very good for item drops, so why would I run them? The benefit for going 20 levels over is negligible for XP - it caps at something like 3 or 5 levels higher. NMs exist to level glyphs, not characters - which is the core of the problem: if they actually gave significant amount of experience vs just doing regular dungeons I'd be doing them more.
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DarkDobe posted:Where did you get the idea that I haven't leveled my glyphs and paragons? I have 3 glyphs at level 15 giving me some chonky benefits - but going past that is meaningless (for now) - and the NM dungeons themselves suck for XP, and aren't very good for item drops, so why would I run them? The benefit for going 20 levels over is negligible for XP - it caps at something like 3 or 5 levels higher. NMs exist to level glyphs, not characters - which is the core of the problem: if they actually gave significant amount of experience vs just doing regular dungeons I'd be doing them more. paragon board is where a huge portion of your endgame power comes from.. with glyphs being one of the main sources of that power. l2p.
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glyphs dont stop getting better at 15
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Committing to a build involves reassigning a bunch of legendary aspects, which is extremely expensive.
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[looking at glyph saying radius ownt increase anymore] well theres no more benefit to this. time to go back to running through a t0 dungeon to get levels and gear for ??. wouldnt want to do any content that needs those things... scary...
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How are people having trouble with resources other than poo poo from helltides or world bosses? And with helltides the only reason I ever run low is because I don't want to loving do them because they're terrible.
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Stux posted:glyphs dont stop getting better at 15 There are a few glyphs with static bonuses such as the "Get 13% resistance to the element of the spells in your enchantment slots" for sorc that don't have any real benefit to going above level 15. But, most of them do scale equally per level all the way to max. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Now that I've pretty much reached all my goals with my Necro I'll play other games until season 1 comes out. It was a solid nearly-2 weeks.
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why do gems take inventory slots and why do they only stack to 50 they literally fit INSIDE the pieces of gear get my dude a little pouch, for gems, so i never have to think about them again. pick them up off the ground automatically
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Now that I've pretty much reached all my goals with my Necro I'll play other games until season 1 comes out. It was a solid nearly-2 weeks. I played DOTA for the first time since before TOTK came out, this week 
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Nfcknblvbl posted:You can still tweak your build pretty heavily, so it's a pretty good middle ground IMO. I've been bouncing back and forth from Bone Spear and Bone Spirit with a combination of both without much trouble. This is probably easy if you're in the same category (bone) Going from summoner to bone is a pain in the rear end, I'd have to redo all the aspects on my gear, or probably find new gear entirely that has crit on it instead of shadow over time damage, minion damage, etc. It's probably easier to just roll a new character (assuming you have all the statues) as you start with 10 points and respecs are free to get a feel for whatever you wanna try
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Sab669 posted:I played DOTA for the first time since before TOTK came out, this week Dota 2's the first non-Diablo 4 game I'm gonna play this month. Gonna Tinker it up!
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kaxman posted:why do gems take inventory slots and why do they only stack to 50 The upcoming Gem Bag will be available as part of a DLC Bundle.
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Shredder posted:This is probably easy if you're in the same category (bone) You can get all of the aspects via the codex. Also, hang on to aspects with good rolls. It is definitely not easier to roll a new character unless you are sub level 30 or so.
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soggybagel posted:The upcoming Gem Bag will be available as part of a DLC Bundle. When an elite hits you in the gem bag, you'll be stunned for 5 seconds. Can't be interrupted.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You can get all of the aspects via the codex. Also, hang on to aspects with good rolls. Half the aspects aren't in the codex
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soggybagel posted:The upcoming Gem Bag will be available as part of a DLC Bundle. How much for a Dota courier to sell and salvage my trash?
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Lhet posted:Committing to a build involves reassigning a bunch of legendary aspects, which is extremely expensive.
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is it possible to bail on poo poo that's going badly (like a boss fight or whatever) by quitting the game, or is it fully Do or Die on a hardcore character
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Verviticus posted:is it possible to bail on poo poo that's going badly (like a boss fight or whatever) by quitting the game, or is it fully Do or Die on a hardcore character If you disconnect on hardcore your character dies. That's how the world first 100 HC guy lost his character.
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Shredder posted:Half the aspects aren't in the codex I've been getting aspects that weren't in the codex before added into it. So I think they're a drop of some kind. Either way, it's still better to save all high-rolled aspects for items you're not using.
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Verviticus posted:is it possible to bail on poo poo that's going badly (like a boss fight or whatever) by quitting the game, or is it fully Do or Die on a hardcore character
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It's something like 10 seconds before log out, so in theory you might survive.. I dunno. Tomb Lord before he drops low enough to start blowing up his walls. And no such luck once you hit WT3/4.
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Aphrodite posted:If you disconnect on hardcore your character dies. That's how the world first 100 HC guy lost his character. wait, you're just straight up killed if you disconnect? or you stand around and the mobs beat you to death like in other games Doomykins posted:It's something like 10 seconds before log out, so in theory you might survive.. I dunno. Tomb Lord before he drops low enough to start blowing up his walls. And no such luck once you hit WT3/4. there's the aspect that gives you invuln when you drop out of healthy i guess
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youre killed for being a little bitch
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Glad I mentioned it, thank you for the heads up! Yeah the game gives you a ton of xp compared to what's needed to level to 50. If you beeline the main story you may not get to 50 before completing it, but if you're doing all of the dungeons, exploration, and side quests you'll also run into a wall at 50 in like Scosglen, which is why I've seen a few places say that leveling in WT2 isn't really worthwhile, and I'd agree with that. While the only thing standing between a player and WT3 is the capstone dungeon, the dungeon can't be attempted until after the campaign, so don't be like me and try to do all the side content as it becomes available. I ended up completing the campaign at like 52 from just killing level 50 mobs for five acts of story. Definitely had optimized gear for the 50 capstone, at least lmao. bobtheconqueror fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Verviticus posted:wait, you're just straight up killed if you disconnect? or you stand around and the mobs beat you to death like in other games You linger long enough to get killed.
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bobtheconqueror posted:Yeah the game gives you a ton of xp compared to what's needed to level to 50. If you beeline the main story you may not get to 50 before completing it, but if you're doing all of the dungeons, exploration, and side quests you'll also run into a wall at 50 in like Scosglen, which is why I've seen a few places say that leveling in WT2 isn't really worthwhile, and I'd agree with that. While the only thing standing between a player and WT3 is the capstone dungeon, the dungeon can't be attempted until after the campaign, so don't be like me and try to do all the side content as it becomes available. On the flip side, you don't have to go back and hit up a bunch of missed quests and dungeons to get to max rep for the area. I really wish I would have gone slower through the campaign and did all the side quests as they showed up.
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poemdexter posted:On the flip side, you don't have to go back and hit up a bunch of missed quests and dungeons to get to max rep for the area. I really wish I would have gone slower through the campaign and did all the side quests as they showed up. Yeah, for me, I ended up hitting 50 in Scosglen after having done all of the dungeons and side quests (except for the one dungeon and two side quests that required campaign completion) in Fractured Peaks and a couple of the Scosglen zones. At that point I burned through the remainder of the campaign, acts 2 through 6, and I'm now using the exploration and dungeon content to push to 70, which is a lot slower but is at least possible now that I'm on WT3. bobtheconqueror fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I've been getting aspects that weren't in the codex before added into it. So I think they're a drop of some kind. Either way, it's still better to save all high-rolled aspects for items you're not using. (x) Doubt Aspects that aren't in the codex don't show up on the codex later.
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Magus42 posted:(x) Doubt I mean you can't go to a dungeon to unlock every single class specific codex, some of them are random drops only.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They basically made it incredibly cheap to add sockets to items and gave every item slot multiple sockets. So, you can be loaded up on gems relative to D3. ?????? D4 has 1 fewer available gem slot on gear than D3 has. Literally the only difference is D3 gets 3 sockets on chests and D4 gets two sockets on two hand weapons. D4 gems suck, they do so little per gem it's not even really noticeable. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Gwaihir posted:?????? D4 has 1 fewer available gem slot on gear than D3 has. They made it much cheaper and easier to add sockets, though. You just roll up to the jeweler. In vanilla D3, there was no way to do it except enchanting (which became unsustainable due to exponentially increasing costs for enchanting a single item). It wasn't until years later that they added a very rare drop that could add sockets. Now, you can just add them to every item without even taking up an affix slot for just some gold.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Yep. sorcs have an annoying amount of skills based on lucky hits. i honestly hate it. i just want an effect!!! Even some of our aspects are just glorified lucky hits. (chance for +2 chains to lightning for example). Various enchants are just "Another Lucky Hit effect". sorcs are just gamblers really based on these thigns Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They made it much cheaper and easier to add sockets, though. it's cheap but i would not say it's easy since the material for it only drops from world bosses and treasure goblins. quite limited Sloober fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Comparisons to vanilla d3 are pretty laughable because it was so loving bad, but also, we're not in 2012 anymore and presumably there's at least one person left at blizzard that remembers all the fixes required to turn d3 from a trash game to a great one.
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Gwaihir posted:?????? D4 has 1 fewer available gem slot on gear than D3 has. I dunno, +72% critical strike damage to vulnerable enemies for barbarians seems really nice considering you can have 100% vulnerable on hit chance from paragon board.
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Aphrodite posted:If you disconnect on hardcore your character dies. That's how the world first 100 HC guy lost his character. Your character doesn't just explode if you lag out. They just stand in place for 20 seconds and won't retaliate if attacked, so if you dc'd in the middle of a dungeon you're hosed. I have seen a few people say that if you have Scrolls of Escape on you they will be used automatically to TP you back to town, but I'm not going to test that out on my own character.
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Gwaihir posted:Comparisons to vanilla d3 are pretty laughable because it was so loving bad, but also, we're not in 2012 anymore and presumably there's at least one person left at blizzard that remembers all the fixes required to turn d3 from a trash game to a great one. They just didn't want to put a lot of end game content out day one. So, instead we'll have to wait a while until loot tables are evened out (I'm loving done with trying to find a decent Aspect of the Umbral) when there's greater rifts or whatever leader boards to push.
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Givin posted:Pretty much every capstone tier brings you into the next level. You'll start seeing regulars about 40/50ish, then 70. There really isn't an in game notifier that I saw. You can craft sigils at the occultist but I don't remember getting a notification that I could even do that until I went there once and saw two new tabs I didn't remember seeing. Someone posted this happens when you clear a tier 3 sigil. BurningBeard posted:Too true. If resists ever change that will change as well but even in that case it's pretty boring as upgrades go. Aphrodite posted:Most builds use Emeralds in weapons.
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