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Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

big scary monsters posted:

The women on the committee were definitely a step more formal than the men, business casual rather than casual causal. Smart blouse and dark slacks sort of thing.

"Lady, I can help you break causality any day of the week, if you know what I mean" he said, unfastening his tie in the Swedish manner

But seriously, good on you if it felt OK!

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von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever

big scary monsters posted:

My typical attire when I'm actually at work is either jeans and a t-shirt or a survival suit, but it's a bit warm for the survival suit at the moment.

i usually have to wear a survival suit at work......

Hip Flask
Dec 14, 2010

Zip Mask

Mymla posted:

To one of the funerals I didn't even wear a suit, just a black shirt.

That's only really okay if you're a child or a woman.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
Oh, 50+ new posts in the Scandipol thread, I wonder what Uffe has done n

quote:

Tie?

quote:

no tie

quote:

socks with sandals?

Oh ok.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Would you really rather be discussing Scandinavian politics?

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Collateral Damage posted:

Ties are for weddings, funerals and maybe if you get invited to the Nobel dinner.

There is no way you will be allowed to enter Stadshuset during the Nobel banquet wearing a tie. Folkdräkt or white tie and tails for men / evening gown for women.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




THE BAR posted:

Is no one here wearing shorts?

One of the benefits of working in kindergarten: the clothes code is very relaxed.

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!
Going to a southern european (Portuguese in this case) wedding is a bit weird when my first two funerals were Swedish, since the dress is much more informal. Most wear everyday clothes, and basically only the very closest family members (offspring/parents etc) are seen wearing suits most of the time (even then, tie is optional). And then they do the opposite at work, wearing suits for average office jobs.

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

big scary monsters posted:

Would you really rather be discussing Scandinavian politics?

Absolutely not. Very happy with this switch in subject.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

i’m entering my fourth decade on this earth, so i think it’s high time I start wearing flannel trousers, odd jackets and knit ties to my classes (high school)

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

i’ll leave all the sneakers and athleisure stuff to the pupils and gym teachers

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Woebin posted:

Since we're on the topic, what would y'all recommend for a woman to wear to an interview in these parts? I'll typically go for a fairly nice dress and whatever shoes I can find that go well with it, but I think I've been overdressed at my interviews leading up to my current job and before that was pre-transition so I just dressed like a dude.

I’d say business casual. I’ve been interviewing candidates for qualified government agency positions, and nice blouse and pants or a nice dress would be typical for women candidates. Business casual will do fine.

For our interviews I think truly casual dress could raise an eyebrow. We don’t see many interviewees with jeans and t-shirts so to say, but we also mostly recruit boomers to older millenials. Wearing something obviously scrappy could be held against you, but more as a sign that you’re not good at reading a situation which is important for our specific job. But the only real faux pas was when a younger colleague went to a visit with the department of educatiom wearing flipflops and a wife beater. We still talk about that ten years later and cringe.

lilljonas fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Jun 15, 2023

NFX
Jun 2, 2008

Fun Shoe
I haven't seen this get any traction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xlq4WSpUH8

Article (paywall): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-06-15/how-huawei-got-caught-spying-and-lost-a-200-million-5g-contract

Writeup in Danish: https://www.recordere.dk/2023/06/den-hemmelige-5g-kontrakt-og-mysteriet-om-industrispionage/

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

The Financial Supervisory Authority gets a new director. She's the former deputy director of Finance Denmark, the lobby organization for the largest banks. Maybe keep that in mind once another Danish bank is involved in, say, the largest money laundering scandal in history.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



Yeah, I remember them being there in the building across from us one day, and then the next it was completely empty.

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



The former prime minister of Sweden Stefan Löfven (Social Democrat) is working for the same lobbying firm as a former conservative finance minister, Anders Borg (M). What's that about?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

there are no more political movements which can meaningfully discipline their elites, and every senior politician is now keeping an eye on the well-renumerated sinecure where they get paid a lot to have people listen to them talk in a highly unrigorous environment as their likely retirement package. this is likely going to keep happening for the foreseeable future.

e. there's a bunch of reasons why lobbying firms want to do this kind of thing. most obviously there's a ridiculous amount of money sloshing about and if one can increase revenue by even a little bit it's well worth keeping former politicians on the payroll - even if you're paying them ~5million a year they're likely to bring in several times that number in clout. this is the same kind of reasoning you see for why executives should be paid ridiculous salaries, or why we shouldn't scare off "our best" investors with a less-favourable tax environment: once the numbers get sufficiently big, marginal increases in efficiency can yield enormous dividends, the theory goes, and because everything's financialised to hell there's a lot of very big numbers sloshing about.

V. Illych L. fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 21, 2023

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Kinda depressing that the housing market is bad that people will pay millions for literal trash apartments:
https://e24.no/naeringsliv/i/2Bgb5v/oppussingsobjekt-paa-21-kvm-solgt-for-29-millioner?referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

They'll flip it for twice that in a couple of years.

The housing market is disgusting.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

apparently nobody told the labour party cabinet ministers that they can't just give their friends all the cushy positions, you have to launder it at least a little

somehow this has led to an actual scandal. goddamn morons

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Actually, she was told, then reminded, and continued doing so anyway. Lots of libs are heartbroken about it for some reason.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
From my personal experience, telling career politicians anything they don't want to hear is impossible. They remain convinced they are the smartest people in the room. "Oh, the law? Ahaha you jurists are so cute, with all your rules lawyering. Always talking about the law, aren't you".

And then the record scratch comes 3-6 months later.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




V. Illych L. posted:

apparently nobody told the labour party cabinet ministers that they can't just give their friends all the cushy positions, you have to launder it at least a little

They did. Several times. She just chose to ignore it.

thotsky posted:

. Lots of libs are heartbroken about it for some reason.
She's a labor politician that's not an rear end in a top hat. That's an achievement in and of itself. Plus she was the main architect behind the gay conversion ban which was a legitimate good thing.

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

She's doing the media tour and she's tearing up and saying how sorry she is and how ashamed, but how about this: she knew what she was doing, she knew it was wrong, and she chose to do it anyway and now it blew up.

Quit crying and just go away.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

it's not that they're doing this cadre placement thing which gets to me, it's how completely artless they are about it. it's easy to rig these processes so you get the person you want! you just have to not be a moron about it.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I'm pretty sure art is a luxury we just can't afford in the current economy, covid and Ukraine and all.

Unrelated, we might do some tax cuts

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Terrible accident at my old workplace. One dead.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/berg-och-dalbana


Jetline is almost certainly history after this one.

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010
Ive done that ride so many times. Thats horrifying.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
It’s been around for almost 40 years. Pretty much any grown up who’s done any rollercoaster at Grönan has gone on Jetline.

As someone who’s worked at Jetline, I don’t even dare to think how the poor kids doing the operating of it today feels like. I am certain without a shadow of a doubt that human error didn’t cause this, but it must be traumatising to say the least. We who worked at the rides were constantly driven to work safely above all. To see this happen despite that is such a tragedy.

Accidents on rollercoasters are thankfully pretty drat rare, but sadly not rare enough.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Horrible accident, like all amusement park accidents. :(

I don't know how many times I've gone on Jetline. It's a good coaster, especially for its age. It's going to be interesting to read the report and find out the cause.

Postorder Trollet89
Jan 12, 2008
Sweden doesn't do religion. But if they did, it would probably be the best religion in the world.

Collateral Damage posted:

Horrible accident, like all amusement park accidents. :(

I don't know how many times I've gone on Jetline. It's a good coaster, especially for its age. It's going to be interesting to read the report and find out the cause.

I had a relative on Jetline last week. Whew.

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever
I was there yesterday in the line for Vilda Musen when we heard a loud noise. 10 minuter later we were evacuated. The grönan-people acted very good. Probably saw 50 emergency vehicles on the walk from grönan to strandvägen.

ionn
Jan 23, 2004

Din morsa.
Grimey Drawer

BigglesSWE posted:

I am certain without a shadow of a doubt that human error didn’t cause this

It's likely not due to human error operating it, but it could certainly be one with regards to maintenance / inspection.

Threadkiller Dog
Jun 9, 2010
From what I've gathered the circumstances appear similar (wheelhouses cracking/falling off, safeties releasing) to other catastrophic stress failures of other coasters of the same manufacturer and design.

Its a known design weakness in the cars or something? I guess thats why liseberg is more comfortable keeping theirs running as they updated theirs years ago.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

ionn posted:

It's likely not due to human error operating it, but it could certainly be one with regards to maintenance / inspection.

Yeah, if human error is a relevant factor in your maintenance/inspection setup, your setup is not designed right.

But also, I'm pretty sure rollercoasters are still safer than any other means of transportation, even by miles travelled.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Semi related but yikes, woof. Jetline was the single coaster I went on when I visited and immediately knew that I was far too old to handle coasters.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/nojesparkens-krisdrag-stoppar-all-bussreklam-med-sloganen-grona-lund-aven-for-fegisar

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Rollercoaster are very safe indeed. Even Jetline’s other safety measures worked properly: once the system noticed *something* was wrong, it ensured all the other trains stopped before they’d reach the same spot.

You’ll often see Swedish newspapers make a “BREAKING: Guests stuck at rollercoaster on Gröna Lund” newsflash with the implication that it’s a huge deal when really it’s not: these things operate with a bunch of checks and balances to ensure, among other things, that there will be no collisions with other trains. Relatively minor things can set it off, such as a piece of clothing dropped on the tracks. While it can be scary for the people involved that don’t know what’s going on, such events are perfectly harmless.

This was clearly something completely different. But, it bears repeating, it was also very unusual in Sweden. Last death I can recall from Gröna Lund was the result of some drunken rear end jumping from a balcony as a “shortcut”.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
Koran burning at Medis today. Nice day to work from home with my new puppy.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/xgd2ej/polisen-beviljar-ny-koranbranning-i-stockholm

Dirk Pitt fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Jun 28, 2023

Imaginary Friend
Jan 27, 2010

Your Best Friend

Dirk Pitt posted:

Koran burning at Medis today. Nice day to work from home with my new puppy.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/xgd2ej/polisen-beviljar-ny-koranbranning-i-stockholm
There needs to appear a new addition to the freedom of speech law for dumb people that are inspired by reading poo poo on the internet. Mimicking someone else to get attention and/or because you've been brainwashed to hate is just as much freedom as making a mouse take a specific route in a labyrinth to reach the cheese.

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BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I still want to exercise my right to free speech by taking a literal poo poo on Grundloven in Christiansborg. Or whatever the Swedish equivalent is I guess.

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