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All I know about Cinderella III is that it redeems one of the sisters and gives the Prince an actual personality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwQrEUZDJCk Draga fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Jun 14, 2023 22:43
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I always had a soft spot for Lion King 2 following up the first movie's "Hamlet with cartoon animals" and being "Romeo and Juliet with cartoon animals"
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Jun 14, 2023 23:20
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I have a soft spot for the Aladdin sequels and TV series. Now that's something I don't think anyone sane has done, watching all the Disney movie tie-in series.
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Jun 14, 2023 23:45
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Mraagvpeine posted:I have a soft spot for the Aladdin sequels and TV series. Now that's something I don't think anyone sane has done, watching all the Disney movie tie-in series. nearly everyone who was underage in the 90s did this.
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Jun 15, 2023 00:16
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Whilst I did watch the Aladdin and Herc shows as a kid, I was too young to remember much about them now. I'm more familiar with the Lilo & Stich show and Emperor's New School/ Also the Tarzan show.
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Jun 15, 2023 00:28
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The Tangled series is rather good. Possibly great.
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Jun 15, 2023 00:30
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Draga posted:Whilst I did watch the Aladdin and Herc shows as a kid, I was too young to remember much about them now. Yeah I know I watched both but my memory is extremely vague. That said I'm going to posit they were not very good or at least not all that notable because this was around the same time I was also watching stuff like Hey Arnold, Pete & Pete, etc and I remember those extremely vividly despite having been a whippersnapper.
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Jun 15, 2023 00:36
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Sydin posted:Yeah I know I watched both but my memory is extremely vague. That said I'm going to posit they were not very good or at least not all that notable because this was around the same time I was also watching stuff like Hey Arnold, Pete & Pete, etc and I remember those extremely vividly despite having been a whippersnapper. What little I do remember of them I enjoyed but I was a Cartoon Network kid until I was like 11 so I was more into Dexter's Lab, Ed Edd 'n' Eddy and Powerpuff Girls
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Jun 15, 2023 00:42
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Mraagvpeine posted:Now that's something I don't think anyone sane has done, watching all the Disney movie tie-in series. quinton in the corner taking notes
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Jun 15, 2023 03:32
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Disney sequel chat reminds me of the Laura Crone video on the Swan Princess sequels. 1 hour of mediocre-to-hideous animation and a 20 minute detour about the Gospel of Mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saM3afhPfO8
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Jun 15, 2023 05:00
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Draga posted:Whilst I did watch the Aladdin and Herc shows as a kid, I was too young to remember much about them now. I'm more familiar with the Lilo & Stich show and Emperor's New School/ Oh right, Hercules had a show, and I recall that show and Aladdin had a crossover. I wonder how that idea came about.
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Jun 15, 2023 05:41
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I'm kind of still shocked that The Swan Princess got as many sequels as it did. I remember falling down that rabbit hole after seeing a booth for one of it's more recent CGI sequels that aren't even about Odette anymore, they're about her daughter. I think Swan Princess is one of the more interesting direct-to-dvd franchises that I can think of. One of my other favorite Musical Youtubers talked about a couple of them and they are...well, they're direct-to-dvd! (note: she was having trouble keeping these vids up on youtube for a lot of reasons so the link to the actual video is in the video description) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sk-xIaUsnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuYoNi9H2hY Musical Hell is also a great account if you're looking for videos that aren't super long that talk about Musical theater and their various movie adaptations. Her Descendants videos are really good but I highly recommend her Love Never Dies video, the Phantom of The Opera sequel; a sequel so bad it actively made me have to sit there and think whether or not I actually liked the original show or not (spoiler: I still do! Love Never Dies is just bafflingly bad!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Un7kg7WUno Edit: Oh poo poo, I forgot Yuri Lowenthall was the screenwriter on both of those movies  He also voices Derek
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Jun 15, 2023 05:47
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Happy Landfill posted:Musical Hell is also a great account if you're looking for videos that aren't super long that talk about Musical theater and their various movie adaptations. Her Descendants videos are really good but I highly recommend her Love Never Dies video, the Phantom of The Opera sequel; a sequel so bad it actively made me have to sit there and think whether or not I actually liked the original show or not (spoiler: I still do! Love Never Dies is just bafflingly bad!) I watched the entire video and I'm still confused on how and why this exists. Who wants a sequel that says, actually, everything in the original was wrong and the opposite should have happened. Surely even Phantom/Christine shippers would feel patronized.
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Jun 15, 2023 06:51
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mycot posted:I watched the entire video and I'm still confused on how and why this exists. Who wants a sequel that says, actually, everything in the original was wrong and the opposite should have happened. Surely even Phantom/Christine shippers would feel patronized. Lindsey Ellis's last youtube video goes in to the history of this show a bit more, but just know that this wasn't a, "oh, what the hell, let's make a sequel to Phantom, my most beloved show," this thing was in the works, off and on, for 20 years. It wasn't an accident. They genuinely wanted this to be successful Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Jun 15, 2023 |
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Jun 15, 2023 07:18
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Mix. posted:quinton in the corner taking notes Quinton, voice barely breaking a monotone: "And then from out of nowhere comes a new figure on the water. Sebastian the Lobster proclaims it to be Ursula's crazy sister."
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Jun 15, 2023 10:25
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The ghost of youtube has decided to float this to the surface: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwrPTiOKgMI An extremely deep cut into the history of a surf map.
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Jun 15, 2023 16:41
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Lola Sebastian made a video about James Franco's adaptation of The Sound and the Fury.
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Jun 15, 2023 17:37
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plik21DkJz4 New Thew has him coin the phrase "pure violence gremlin" which I am going to make a point to introduce into my lexicon.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:41
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In today's episode of It Came From the Algorithm, I bring you, The Saga of Leon the Lobster!
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Jun 15, 2023 19:01
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Schwarzwald posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plik21DkJz4 This person is way too British and loud for me
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Jun 15, 2023 22:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXqXgGHRNkc
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Jun 15, 2023 23:51
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Jun 16, 2023 01:42
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Dude almost certainly understood none of the actual plot or themes, if he actually played it at all. He called Evrart "The owner of the shipping company " and Joyce "This lady".
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Jun 16, 2023 02:49
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Sardonik posted:Dude almost certainly understood none of the actual plot or themes, if he actually played it at all. He called Evrart "The owner of the shipping company " and Joyce "This lady". People not understanding the plot or themes of Disco Elysium is par for course, though.
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Jun 16, 2023 03:09
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I agree with the title based on the existence of The Pale alone. I refuse to watch the video however
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Jun 16, 2023 03:16
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DE videos are great because so many of them are people trying to approach its ideology and themes with video game youtube essayist brain which is like, possibly the worst way you could try to engage with the game.
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Jun 16, 2023 03:19
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Happy Landfill posted:I like how both Big Joel and Schaffrillas put out videos going over every Disney sequel just weeks apart from each other. I've seen Mulan 2 as one of the worst examples of completely missing the point of the original, but then it got dethroned by the live action re-make.
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Jun 16, 2023 03:24
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Draga posted:All I know about Cinderella III is that it redeems one of the sisters and gives the Prince an actual personality. Which was set by the second movie, as BigJoel pointed out. Sydin posted:DE videos are great because so many of them are people trying to approach its ideology and themes with video game youtube essayist brain which is like, possibly the worst way you could try to engage with the game. I'll make fun of that one essay that didn't clearly understand Klaasje's character which also featured a segment on how the Sunday Friend sucked. Ok if you tried to understand what horseshit SF was talking about, didn't you get that he was also there to locate her so she can be disappeared by the MoralIntern for potential corporate espionage. You can totally gather this from just talking with her on the roof without getting compromised by Volition. How didn't you get that during making a 1 hour video about it that made you made cutesy cartoons for. Also... the final guy? Yes, you can totally sympathize with the trauma of having to hide on that one island for years while the mainland gets taken over the MoralIntern with bomber ships ready to blitz the people there into smithereens, but you know WHAT ELSE you can see there? The giant bug thing with antideluvian foresight and pheromones that excite and entrance not only the player character, but also the sole human that lived there for decades! He turns into a blubbering baby as soon as it leaves and happily lets you have all of the info! Stupid essay didn't even get Evrart Claire as a character! ONE HOUR OF THIS poo poo!!! Kunster fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Jun 16, 2023 |
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Jun 16, 2023 11:56
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Archer666 posted:People not understanding the plot or themes of Disco Elysium is par for course, though. ... wait really The game beats you over the god drat head if you finish it. You'd have to go out of your loving way to not get the story when the literal ending of the game tells you what happened and explains everything about you. The only things I can imagine not getting are the things you're not supposed to, the fantastical sci-fi concepts that no one around you really understands because they're not sciencemen. This is "wait I thought Gandalf DIED, PLOT HOLE" level of media illiteracy here
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Jun 16, 2023 13:51
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Sydin posted:DE videos are great because so many of them are people trying to approach its ideology and themes with video game youtube essayist brain which is like, possibly the worst way you could try to engage with the game. what is youtube essayist brain? is there a particular lens that they look through things as a group that makes them fail to understand stuff? or is it just that they're blind to thematic elements in a work in general?
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Jun 16, 2023 19:03
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Impermanent posted:what is youtube essayist brain? is there a particular lens that they look through things as a group that makes them fail to understand stuff? or is it just that they're blind to thematic elements in a work in general? It's any number of things but one of them is failing to develop fundamentals and instead aping the work of previous youtubers who may have also aped the work of previous youtubers. Imagine a content ouroboros.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:10
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Schwarzwald posted:It's any number of things but one of them is failing to develop fundamentals and instead aping the work of previous youtubers who may have also aped the work of previous youtubers. yeah-- it is really obvious which essayists have a background in college level literary analysis and can do proper research and analysis and which are former fandom folks who watched a lot of YouTube. you obviously don't need to be through college or whatever to be the former but unless they put a lot of effort into those skills it's pretty uncommon.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:17
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Impermanent posted:what is youtube essayist brain? is there a particular lens that they look through things as a group that makes them fail to understand stuff? or is it just that they're blind to thematic elements in a work in general? I'm assuming it's referring to a specific type of analysis common in some nerd circles that treats a work of fiction as being a puzzle box to solved, usually exclusively through in-story content and without regard to the larger thematic or ideological elements of the work as a whole. So stuff like that dumb theory that was floating around YouTube that Wendy Torrence was actually the abusive one in The Shining and all the scenes of Jack being a murderous d-bag were her hallucinations because *hrmmrm*, or videos where people try to figure out whether or not the end of Inception was still in a dream. A more benign example of this would be something like trying to piece together the timeline of when characters were infected in John Carpenter's The Thing or arguments over what was REALLY in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:19
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KingKalamari posted:So stuff like that dumb theory that was floating around YouTube that Wendy Torrence was actually the abusive one in The Shining and all the scenes of Jack being a murderous d-bag were her hallucinations because *hrmmrm*, or videos where people try to figure out whether or not the end of Inception was still in a dream. Wow, I finally get to see 'Daniel was the real Karate Kid villain' topped.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:24
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I always considered essayist to be a different thing than X Explained and lore head dudes. Matt Pat is probably worse for media literacy than Cinema Sins. edit: Not sure exactly where Upisnotjump lands on that spectrum because I find their thumbnails extremely repulsive.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:30
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Oh okay, so they meant all those obnoxious 'Well actually, every villain was actually the hero of the story' takes on things.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:30
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Dawgstar posted:Wow, I finally get to see 'Daniel was the real Karate Kid villain' topped. To be fair this is basically Cobra Kai.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:31
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Dawgstar posted:Wow, I finally get to see 'Daniel was the real Karate Kid villain' topped. Yeah, the Wendy Theory is especially stupid. Here's a video of a guy explaining all the underlying problems with this theory and ones of its ilk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLsmZ1PNrA I've actually been watching a bunch of that Eyebrow Cinema guy's videos lately and am surprised he doesn't get mentioned in the thread more often
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Jun 16, 2023 19:32
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You know what DOES explain the shining? Kubrick ruining the original emotional heart and conflict of King's story. No I will not be taking questions.
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Jun 16, 2023 19:40
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Impermanent posted:what is youtube essayist brain? is there a particular lens that they look through things as a group that makes them fail to understand stuff? or is it just that they're blind to thematic elements in a work in general? A generally formulaic, generally surface level type of analysis that attempts to identify, classify, separate out from one another, and then "explain" a game's mechanics, characters, themes, and story. The kind of person who says "okay now let's talk about Evrart" and then tries to dissect his dialogue for 20 minutes before coming down hard on one side of him either genuinely having good intentions for Martinaise or just being a corrupt schemer, framed as that being the intentional message of the game that just needed to be teased out of the dialogue.
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