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Praxis Prion posted:Anybody think this deal on the Lenovo Legion 5 for $1230 is coming back? Almost certainly its coming back, or something really similar. There are other 4060 laptops in the $970-$1,300 range, none that I like as much as that Legion, so I don't think it's a huge outlier price or anything. It'll be back before too long.
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Hadlock posted:Apple announced an alarmingly thin M2 powered 15" macbook air Also cut $150 off the price of the 13" version.
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Lockback posted:What games do you play? Yea, if the open box is still available tomorrow, I might do this. Thanks! Edit/update: So, I can probably see why it was returned. It has a pretty significant amount of screen warp to it. While it doesn’t appear to effect the performance of the screen and it’s apparently a common issue with g14’s, it’s pretty worrisome. I’ll likely take it back just for this, but i think I also just want the bigger form factor and brighter screen.  
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Posting from my ~6 year old XPS 13 9360 to say that with the OEM replacement battery I found & installed, it still runs & looks great and doesn't have any weird creaks or cracks. Aside from the battery the only things I've done were put (hand-me-down) 2TB SSD and a wifi6 M2 to replace the stock one. i7-8550U & 16 GB Ram holding up well, as is the 3200x1800 touchscreen Hanging out at 42c on my lap too. Anybody know a good vendor to buy the screws for it? Wouldnt mind replacing a couple
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754836/180w-240w-framework-usb-c-pd-charger Confirmed. The new modular 16” notebook from Framework is going to use the new 240w PD standard. However, it will only ship with a 180w adapter. quote:Today, the modular laptop company revealed that it will ship its upcoming Framework Laptop 16 with the first 180W USB-C PD 3.1 charger that we’ve ever heard of, developed in partnership with Chicony. It’s only twice the size of its 60W power adapter at 116.6 x 58.2 x 27mm, but with three times the juice, and the two-meter USB-C cable is still detachable despite it.
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Looking at grabbing a new gaming laptop but I've had this one for over six years so I'm a bit out of the current loop. 1) Is there any real gaming reason to go from an i7 to an i9 other than dickwaving and a heat fetish? 2) Who's good these days for longevity? I'm a bit eh on Asus at the moment and my main priority is not having to buy a new laptop for at least 4 years. This is a factor for (2) because I don't want to get something that will be obsolete 3) Are the 4060/4070 laptop models as bad as they say? I'm an old so I'd happily stick with 1920*1080 @ 60mhz until I die but people don't make those screens any more, but as per (2) I don't want to struggle to run games in 3 years or have a 4080 melt the other components in 2. I'm currently looking at an MSI Raider 17.3in 2560x1440 240Hz, GeForce RTX 4080, Intel Core i7, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD despite it being about 25% more than I wanted to spend and tbh the novelty of finding an off the shelf laptop in my country with more than 500GB hard disk is the main deciding factor. Going to lock the framerate to 60mhz 
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1. Depends on what your doing, but most likely not worth the heat/cost. 2. Asus is good, but Legion is at least as good. Asus is typically a bit better at being portable Legion a bit more powerful. MSI is decent, but a step down in build quality and (honestly) longevity. 3.4060 is a really good mobile GPU. 4070 is kinda dumb because it isn't giving you much performance for the wattage and cost, but it's not bad. Mobile GPUs are essentially completely different from desktop GPUs at this point so don't compare across (a mobile 4060 is more like a high VRAM 4050+). 4080 is a great mobile GPU but it will run hot and its expensive. So MSI Raider is a fine laptop but depending on what games you're playing it may be overkill and adding heat (and wear) you don't need. I don't think there's anything wrong with that laptop but I wouldn't look at it and say "Oh this is what you want if you want it to last a long time."
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The best thing you can do for longevity is get an extended warranty plan that doesn't require a bunch of bullshit to use, which is why I only buy laptops through Best Buy. I've used them 3 times for major repairs to failed Asus G14s and once (just a basic return) for my Legion that came with a failed GPU.
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Does Lenovo Direct support have lovely warranty claims? I haven't filed one outside of business which went super smooth.
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pixaal posted:Does Lenovo Direct support have lovely warranty claims? I haven't filed one outside of business which went super smooth. I don't think so? They're fine. It won't be as good as a business claim though, but no consumer laptop will be.
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Splicer posted:Looking at grabbing a new gaming laptop but I've had this one for over six years so I'm a bit out of the current loop. I've been very pleased with my 15 inch Asus ROG Strix. It just turned 2 years old and still works great, but I can understand not being too keen on Asus at the moment. The Legion gaming laptops seem to be just as good, and probably have less garish software. Armoury Crate is bloated and grotesque and I'm glad someone in this thread posted the github to GHelper which is a great replacement. I'm still pretty happy with the 3060 in my machine. I can turn on ray tracing in cyberpunk and with the magic of DLSS, get "Good Enough" performance and visuals for my old eyes. It doesn't even turn into a jet engine which means I'm probably leaving some frames on the table. Also, pretty much all these modern machines have a spare M2 slot for additional storage, I recently threw in a second 1TB drive in my computer and it was super easy. So you may save yourself some coin by adding more storage yourself. As for CPU's/GPU's. I9 is probably not worth the extra cash or power consumption. In the mobile space, whether you get a 13th gen i7/i9 or a Zen 3/4 Ryzen, they're going to turbo real high and consume large amounts of power initially before eventually reducing their power limits to keep from self combusting or melting your laptop after a few minutes. I don't think you can go wrong with either right now, but if I were shopping AMD, I'd be looking for a Zen 4 part. Zen 3 is still great, especially in regards to power consumption, just starting to show its age. The 4070 looks to be a not good value. It has the same 8GB of VRAM as the 4060, attached with the same puny 128-bit memory bus. It has almost double the number of ray tracing cores which might make a noticeable difference if you want to play a lot of games with ray tracing enabled, but hindered by the same memory constraints of the 4060 I'm not sure if it'll provide double the performance when it comes to games with ray tracing. The 4080 is really where you start getting into the real noticeable improvements. There's a caveat, of course, laptop manufacturers can set their own power limits on GPU's, so a 40-whatever in one system might not perform as well as one in another. I've already read a review of a "slim" laptop with a 4080 that ended up performing worse than a 4070 due to it's power constraints, which makes you wonder, "why even bother"? I've heard of MSI not being as good as Lenovo/Asus; I personally have no experience with an MSI machine other than my old 2015 GE-something. The chassis and materials certainly don't feel as nice as modern machines, and the speakers and keyboard aren't as good, but the thing is from 2015 and I could plug it in right now and it'd start up just fine.
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bull3964 posted:https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/8/23754836/180w-240w-framework-usb-c-pd-charger I might grab one of these eventually. I've been wanting their 13 inch one, but as my other post indicated the other day, I'm doing ok for my needs in that form factor. I love the idea, and love that its moving into a size that can accommodate a dGPU
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Hadlock posted:I keep seeing paid blog Anker finally gave a preview of their new 240w capable hardware https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/14/23760701/anker-prime-usb-c-240w-charger-battery-bank Currently holding off on buying a new dock until I can get a 240w unit which I expect will last me another 7 years
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Hadlock posted:Anker finally gave a preview of their new 240w capable hardware Nope, read it again. It's 140w. It's just 240w combined across all ports, but it can't output 240w to a single device.
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Oh, lame Yeah I saw a Phillips computer display announced the other day with 140w too. I wonder if it's the same chip
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Not sure, but Anker has had 140w accessories for almost a year now. I got my Anker 737 140w power bank at the end of July last year. Nothing I have will actually draw 140w from it, but at least it charges at that rate.
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Thanks for putting Lenovo on my radar, I didn't know they did gaming laptops. And yes my current machine is a 6 year old Asus that's served me very well, but whatever's going on at Asus QC at the moment I don't want to get involved.
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Speaking of Lenovo. Their latest Legion 5 Pro with a Zen 4 AMD cpu and RTX 4070 is on sale for under 1500USD. That's actually a hair less than what most 4060 equipped laptops were priced at when they first hit the market. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-pro-series/legion-pro-5-gen-8-(16-inch-amd)/len101g0025
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ASUS Zenbook 14 https://www.currys.co.uk/products/asus-zenbook-14-ux3402za-14-laptop-intel%C2%A0core%C2%A0i5-512-gb-ssd-blue-10240187.html Is that a decent price for the Zenbook 14, and is it a decent laptop? It doesn't need to play games or anything.
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Decent price, decent laptop. OLED screen is nice.
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Buying my partner a laptop, considering the Thinkpad Yoga series for the 2-in-1 feature which I think she'll like - she'll only use it for basic browser stuff/email, watching Netflix etc., word processing, nothing heavy at all. But I want to get one that's powerful enough that'll it'll be snappy and responsive doing those things bc she gets rl frustrated at laggy computers. Also would want it to have a really good (or at least not-bad) wifi module bc the wifi reception is bad in some of the places she'll use it. 1) Are the Thinkpad Yoga's pretty good/durable machines? Do they/can they fit those criteria? 2) I don't want to overbuy power but again want a nice experience using it, and one that'll last 5+ years hopefully without feeling old - what specs should I be aiming for? 3) This thread lead me to buying a Thinkpad T16 for my work machine and it so far has ended up being excellent advice, I adore it, so maybe I'm just super "into" Thinkpads now - is there a better non-Thinkpad option for what she needs?
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Lockback posted:Decent price, decent laptop. OLED screen is nice. Is OLED a crazy idea for a laptop? I'd be keeping it for the guts of a decade, not changing it after 2 years like a phone.
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Not personally, but people itt have had good experiences with the Yoga devices. Any device with 16gb RAM and a processor from 2021 onward will be snappy and responsive for the next five+ years. Don't get one with a dedicated graphics card. AMD processors will have better battery life and probably better performance in a 14", but if you're getting a larger device then Intel is probably a better option. Lenovo's branding is a shitshow. There's a difference between ThinkPad __ Yoga lines (e.g. ThinkPad X1 Yoga) and just Yoga ___ (like Yoga Slim etc). They're both decent but they're essentially different manufacturers with quite different build style, materials etc. WattsvilleBlues posted:Is OLED a crazy idea for a laptop? I'd be keeping it for the guts of a decade, not changing it after 2 years like a phone. Main drawback is the big hit to battery life, about 10-20% less. That's only really an issue in smaller devices with lower capacity batteries. Otherwise yeah they're great, big step up over IPS in pretty much every way.
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bike tory posted:Not personally, but people itt have had good experiences with the Yoga devices. Any device with 16gb RAM and a processor from 2021 onward will be snappy and responsive for the next five+ years. Don't get one with a dedicated graphics card. AMD processors will have better battery life and probably better performance in a 14", but if you're getting a larger device then Intel is probably a better option. I thought OLED would drain less battery due to the black pixels?
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Is OLED a crazy idea for a laptop? I'd be keeping it for the guts of a decade, not changing it after 2 years like a phone. It’s worse on the battery life and typically gets paired with 4k screens that give you the worst of Windows’ scaling issues. That’s about it.
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black.lion posted:Buying my partner a laptop, considering the Thinkpad Yoga series for the 2-in-1 feature which I think she'll like bike tory posted:Not personally, but people itt have had good experiences with the Yoga devices. Any device with 16gb RAM and a processor from 2021 onward will be snappy and responsive for the next five+ years. Don't get one with a dedicated graphics card. AMD processors will have better battery life and probably better performance in a 14", but if you're getting a larger device then Intel is probably a better option. Yeah, pretty much. Yogas are nice. Maybe a bit pricey, but the better value 2-in-1s are definitely a step down too. If you did one with a config and price you like I'd recommend it.
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bike tory posted:Not personally, but people itt have had good experiences with the Yoga devices. Any device with 16gb RAM and a processor from 2021 onward will be snappy and responsive for the next five+ years. Don't get one with a dedicated graphics card. AMD processors will have better battery life and probably better performance in a 14", but if you're getting a larger device then Intel is probably a better option. Ty! I'll be getting the newest processor I can find and will hit 16GB RAM for sure, and prob will go for the smaller (14") so AMD it is - much appreciated Lockback posted:Yeah, pretty much. Yogas are nice. Maybe a bit pricey, but the better value 2-in-1s are definitely a step down too. If you did one with a config and price you like I'd recommend it. So wait, regular Yogas or Thinkpad Yogas are nice? Not super price sensitive though not trying to overspend unnecessarily
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Regular Yogas are a bit cheaper than ThinkPad Yogas, but are good in their own right. Just don't expect the typical ThinkPad keyboard, they have a different aesthetic and probably more plastic in the casing too.WattsvilleBlues posted:I thought OLED would drain less battery due to the black pixels? It does vary based on what's on the screen, but no, in all the tests I've seen they use more power on average despite the ability to actually turn off black pixels. voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jun 17, 2023 |
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Though I would not expect any laptop OLED screen to last a decade without suffering burn-in.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Though I would not expect any laptop OLED screen to last a decade without suffering burn-in. I get this but how long would you expect a computer belonging to someone wanting OLED quality last? Like yeah maybe there’s some rube who just wants that and knows nothing about computers. But cmon. Edit: I don’t know anyone who expects a laptop to last much longer than five years.
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fr0id posted:I get this but how long would you expect a computer belonging to someone wanting OLED quality last? Like yeah maybe there’s some rube who just wants that and knows nothing about computers. But cmon. The person asking the question a few posts up said they plan on keeping it for the better part of a decade. I'm pretty sure they were mainly asking about burn-in.
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The chances the screen survives for a decade seems low; getting a replacement OLED 7 years after production ends is... Not likely The are like, five or six laptops I can suggest if you need parts availability for a decade The IPS screen on my Thinkpad x230 needed a replacement at like 5 years and then an ant crawled into the replacement screen and died near the center two years later at which point I decided to upgrade to the x13....huh, days before covid was announced, Jan 4 2020 Anyways I know in 5-7 years I can easily replace that 13" IPS screen. I'd be cautious buying an OLED
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Thanks for the responses goons. I don't need an OLED screen, but that Asus Zenbook was one of the options that came up when I went through Currys and filtered my requirements. Anyone have recommendations for anywhere else in the UK that sells laptops?
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For an 800 quid laptop I really wouldn't worry about OLED longevity, truly. A very nice laptop from 2013 would be a i7-4500 and maybe 8GB of RAM, and would have been painful to use for years. I'd predict less than 10% of those are still running and none of them had OLED. For casual home use (ie, not running in an office 40+ hours a week) your screen is going to have a life comparable to most components, and any degradation would likely be reasonably spread across the screen and not very noticeable for casual use.
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I'd appreciate a little help: I'm going to buy my first ever laptop and have no idea where to start, because I'm not looking for a gaming rig. * It's going to be mostly for writing / browsing / streaming * Being able to handle some light audio and video editing would be good. * Something that can handle a whole 8-hour workday without bursting into flames or running out of memory. * Preferably not apple. * Doesn't need to be a combination tablet though I don't mind if it is. Can anyone point me toward some good brands/models to start with?
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black.lion posted:Buying my partner a laptop, considering the Thinkpad Yoga series for the 2-in-1 feature which I think she'll like - she'll only use it for basic browser stuff/email, watching Netflix etc., word processing, nothing heavy at all. But I want to get one that's powerful enough that'll it'll be snappy and responsive doing those things bc she gets rl frustrated at laggy computers. Also would want it to have a really good (or at least not-bad) wifi module bc the wifi reception is bad in some of the places she'll use it. I have the previous X1 Yoga (If that's what you're referring to) with the i7-1185G7. If it weren't for the corporate image bloatware, it'd be very snappy  Wireless is WiFi6 AX201, I didn't benchmark it but it's plenty fast and I've had no issues with it. 1) Unlike the other Thinkpads, it has a metal (some sort of aluminum alloy) construction which I'm not a fan of but nevertheless it's very solid. The Yoga hinge isn't very stiff but enough that you can write on the screen ok. 2) The lower-end 1245U is a bit faster than my 1185 and is supposed to be better on battery and cooling than the other 12-th gen CPUs so I'd consider that. 3) That's the correct behavior on your part 
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If a college student were going to study data science, are there compelling reasons to use a MacBook over an iPad? Both seem to be very capable productivity laptops, but I'm not a Mac guy so xI worry there are important differences--particularly in the apps on each OS--that I wouldn't think to ask about.
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Leatherhead posted:I'd appreciate a little help: I'm going to buy my first ever laptop and have no idea where to start, because I'm not looking for a gaming rig. Pretty much any new laptop with 16gb of RAM will handle that list well. What size are you looking at, and what budget? M1 MacBook Air really is the best value for money for that purpose, but otherwise Lenovo ThinkPads are the go-to for productivity work.
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Ynglaur posted:If a college student were going to study data science, are there compelling reasons to use a MacBook over an iPad? Both seem to be very capable productivity laptops, but I'm not a Mac guy so xI worry there are important differences--particularly in the apps on each OS--that I wouldn't think to ask about. I think you're going to run into a bunch of unbreakable glass walls trying to run python/numpy/pandas, jupiter notebooks, train AI models etc on an iPad due to the kids gloves iOS standing in your way. Maybe they have a "root your iOS" feature now, I haven't looked in to it. 100% of your tooling was written on a macbook or at least linux/unix and definitely is going to be 100% compatible with an M1/M2 macbook. Can you do basic tasks on the ipad like taking notes, or even SSH into an EC2 instance to get real work done? Yeah probably. I feel like you're going to spend a ton of time designing/maintaining a weird compatibility layer on iOS to get 95% of the same functionality, vs a macbook where you can open the terminal and code:
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