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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Leperflesh posted:

In this case, the implication is that Chuck Berry got the revolutionary sound of Johnny B Goode from his cousin Marvin who got it from Marty McFly, rather than inventing it himself.

It's not even the first time he's a white savior! He tells the black worker at the diner (who's mayor of the city in current day 1985) that he could be mayor someday.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

seiferguy posted:

It's not even the first time he's a white savior! He tells the black worker at the diner (who's mayor of the city in current day 1985) that he could be mayor someday.

LOL I never noticed that!

Blowjob Overtime
Apr 6, 2008

Steeeeriiiiiiiiike twooooooo!

Tulalip Tulips posted:

Eurotrip's only good part is Scotty Doesn't Know and only because it pops up randomly in my head at times. Knocked up also hasn't aged really well.

Scotty Doesn't Know is on my Spotify likes, and was the driving force behind the rewatch. I put something on Instagram saying "EuroTrip is 15 years old, which means I've had Scotty Doesn't Know in my head at least once a week for the last 15 years", then got curious how bad the rest of the movie was. Definitely a product of its time.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Anthony Michael Hall literally rapes a girl in Sixteen Candles

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

When The Joker was in pre-release interviews the director said he made it because you can’t make comedies like The Hangover anymore, which I think was meant for attention more than anything else.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
The Hangover is just an extended and inferior version of Viva Ned Flanders.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Todd Phillips also did Old School, which is just an inferior version of Animal House (not to say it doesn't have its moments).

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.
I have two guilty pleasure Adam Sandler movies I still really like, Happy Gilmore and The Wedding Singer. There are some parts of both that are a bit dated or haven't aged great but overall they hold up enough for me to still like them.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

seiferguy posted:

Back to the Future kinda ages badly when you realize the implication that Marty McFly steals credit from a black musician at the end of the dance.

Just one that pees and farts on sex workers' faces so he deserved it

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!

Blowjob Overtime posted:

We didn't watch 40 Year Old Virgin in our revisit of 2000's comedies, but standouts for not aging well in what we did watch were Eurotrip (predictable, probably was already not aging well when it came out) and Superbad.

What in Superbad has aged poorly other than the weird “cops are actually cool” stuff.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Pops Mgee posted:

What in Superbad has aged poorly other than the weird cops are actually cool stuff.

Let's get these chicks super drunk so they'll gently caress us

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Don't they kinda realize that's not cool?

I honestly don't remember.

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!

GD_American posted:

Let's get these chicks super drunk so they'll gently caress us

That’s rough but at least at the end they realize they were wrong to think that.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Leperflesh posted:

In this case, the implication is that Chuck Berry got the revolutionary sound of Johnny B Goode from his cousin Marvin who got it from Marty McFly, rather than inventing it himself.

But that's a surface level implication. In fact, Marty is creating a paradox - he was inspired by Chuck Berry, who he then inspired, so who actually invented the sound? It's one of several paradoxes created in the film series. We can also assume that Berry, listening on the phone, hears a Van Halen style solo at the end, and chooses not to incorporate that element into his future music... but what if he does? We don't hear a lot of music in the alternate timelines McFly creates, maybe there's this whole weird thing in the late 50s and into the 60s with vaguely Van Halen guitar solos.

Doctor Brown in the Multiverse of Martyness

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Pops Mgee posted:

What in Superbad has aged poorly other than the weird “cops are actually cool” stuff.

Seth Rogen has said in interviews that people come up to him and say they became cops after watching that movie to which he said "that's hosed up, the point of that movie was to show how stupid cops are."

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Michael Cera’s character has his girlfriend too drunk she gets sick on him, and Jonah Hill’s character tries to but she says she’s completely sober and it’s hosed up he’d try it.

It’s only McLovin who gets laid I think

Blowjob Overtime
Apr 6, 2008

Steeeeriiiiiiiiike twooooooo!

Pops Mgee posted:

What in Superbad has aged poorly other than the weird “cops are actually cool” stuff.

Cops are actually cool is definitely not the takeaway. The ending does redeem it a bit, but the first half hour at least is planning to get girls drunk to gently caress them and a whole lot of Jonah Hill f and r slurs at McLovin. Even ignoring those as a product of the time, Jonah Hill overall is just hyper aggro and over the top horny in a way that hasn't really aged well for me, at least.

e: Come to think of it, Superbad may be one I wasn't as hot on as other people even when it came out. It's too long for a comedy movie, and I really hate everyone from that era thinking there needed to be a part 2/3rds of the way through the movie where the protagonists have a huge blow out and walk around sad for a while. These same complaints apply to Bridesmaids and Wedding Crashers.

double e: and to be fair I was probably one of the dumb dumbs who thought the cops were at least somewhat cool the first time I saw it, but now realize it's two assholes abusing their power and trying to pin it on someone else as soon as something bad happens

Blowjob Overtime fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jun 16, 2023

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
Just gonna say Weird Science in this conversation since it hasn't been mentioned unless I missed it.

I mean, I'm not hating on it, but I certainly see a bunch of things that could be hated on.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Grittybeard posted:

Just gonna say Weird Science in this conversation since it hasn't been mentioned unless I missed it.

I mean, I'm not hating on it, but I certainly see a bunch of things that could be hated on.

Except we’re closer than ever to making our girlfriend on the internet a real creation.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
If she isn't also a genie what's the point???

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Weird Science getting greenlit is more a product of its time.



...because back then development execs were full on doing blow out in the open at their desks

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

Tulalip Tulips posted:

I have two guilty pleasure Adam Sandler movies I still really like, Happy Gilmore and The Wedding Singer. There are some parts of both that are a bit dated or haven't aged great but overall they hold up enough for me to still like them.

i don't mind those two myself

also, 50 first dates was sweet and it would've been better without rob schnider (but that goes without saying)

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT
....I still laugh at Talledega Nights every time I watch it.

We always pray to the 8 lb baby Jesus

Freaquency
May 10, 2007

"Yes I can hear you, I don't have ear cancer!"

Comedy is really weird because even if the point of the project is not really condoning the things on the screen, there are plenty of idiots that will take it as an endorsement. Some things should age poorly by design, when you’re using the thing to make fun of it (“paging doctor [f-slur]” in The Hangover or the “you know how I know you’re gay?” in The 40-Year-Old Virgin come to mind). That’s especially true when you’re talking about movies that are very directly making fun of a specific time and place, like Superbad. But you also don’t want to beat people over the head with schmaltzy after school special stuff so plenty of people just laugh at the text instead of the subtext. It’s the same reason people were telling on themselves by talking up how they wanted Roman to “win” in Succession - he’s palling around with a literal fascist and constantly sexually harassing the top lawyer in the company, but he’s funny! Like, all of his humor is borne from him being an emotionally stunted, awful human being, and so much of it is directed at people that he sees as less-than - the jokes are giving you a direct line to that, this shouldn’t be hard to parse.

Anyway, the frog is dead now. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

e: also Todd Phillips started crawling up his own rear end sometime before Hangover II and fully disappeared into an rear end in a top hat singularity by the time he hit Hangover III. There was no longer any subtext there since culture was already starting to move past the things he was making fun in Part I.

Freaquency fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Jun 16, 2023

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I’ve always thought that if the (larger philosophical, societal) point of comedy is punching up and exposing the contradictions and foibles of the ruling class and power structures, the goal of a comedian should be to become irrelevant. The things they’re making fun of should be rectified and commonly accepted twenty years later. It’s the comedians who can’t accept their irrelevancy that go hard right, because conservative comedy is just cruelty.

Dave Chappelle is of course the most obvious example of this.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Goal of comedians is to be funny. Some folks are good at this. Some folks are bad. Rest feels irrelevant.

It shocks me family guy still gets away with some of their poo poo tho. They’re openly racist - it’s weird

Edit i sincerely thought the point of that back to future mayor scene was to show how far they’ve come in 30 years where a black guy can actually be mayor. The white savior context is an interesting argument tho, drat. So many layers

Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jun 16, 2023

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



I think it's mostly playing to your audience.

Like in Chapelle's case, he ran into problems because he had a gigantic fanbase from his show days before he poisoned his brain like an Englishman. Meanwhile a Family Guy or South Park has always been like that, so getting angry about it now doesn't happen because anyone who'd get offended by that was already offended by that 20 years ago.

Though then you have stuff that goes viral like when Daniel Tosh decided that roasting some woman complaining about rape jokes by making rape jokes about her, which is a very Daniel Tosh thing to do, so maybe I'm just completely off base.

Braksgirl
Dec 25, 2010

Unofficial Goon Disney travel agent since 2014!

Tens of Goons served!


Silly Burrito posted:

....I still laugh at Talledega Nights every time I watch it.

We always pray to the 8 lb baby Jesus

8 lb 6 oz baby Jesus in the manger, get it right.

Chip, I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Well now we know what SB is watching on the toilet

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Who's feeling lucky and doesn't have a soul or the part of the brain thats says "this might be wrong..."

https://twitter.com/betonline_ag/status/1669794023165558784?t=zqOCbGYeqef9GXoHASutlQ&s=19

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

bobjr posted:

Michael Cera’s character has his girlfriend too drunk she gets sick on him, and Jonah Hill’s character tries to but she says she’s completely sober and it’s hosed up he’d try it.

It’s only McLovin who gets laid I think

It's really weird that after Jonah Hill spills out his plan to get Emma Stone drunk so he can gently caress her she still likes him at the end anyway

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

swickles posted:

Who's feeling lucky and doesn't have a soul or the part of the brain thats says "this might be wrong..."

https://twitter.com/betonline_ag/status/1669794023165558784?t=zqOCbGYeqef9GXoHASutlQ&s=19

Isn't there a movie where Johnny Knoxville pretends to be mentally challenged in order to fix events at the Paralympics?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Oh my loving God.

https://twitter.com/scumbelievable/status/1669805125148327939?t=4nL0v5Ky1v8KbyNAboBkTA&s=19

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Air Skwirl posted:

Isn't there a movie where Johnny Knoxville pretends to be mentally challenged in order to fix events at the Paralympics?

Oh god why did you remind me this exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UInt-QsYbh8

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
Oh no reddit will burn to the ground...

Wait why am I mad?

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Google searching Reddit is already the primary way to get a bunch of questions answered because SEO filled sites have ruined searching for things like product reviews or specific game questions. (and programming questions stack overflow and the like, but reddit can be decent too)

A lot of game and programming stuff has already disappeared into specialized discords which sucks, and I'd rather that not get worse personally.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
In the era of AI clickbait drivel it's one of the last places on the internet to get earnest support and information from specialist willing to share their expertise. Or it was until a week ago.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Kalli posted:

Google searching Reddit is already the primary way to get a bunch of questions answered because SEO filled sites have ruined searching for things like product reviews or specific game questions. (and programming questions stack overflow and the like, but reddit can be decent too)

Yeah it’s like the only way to get actual reviews.

Sucks that it’s dying.

gently caress the internet sucks now.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Kind of like here, reddit also has a ton of niche communities and is a good resource for a lot of hobbies, especially at the intro level. I also like to read the first 2 or 3 pages because a lot funny/cute/insane videos pop up there, but will stop once I can't ise RIF anymore because their own app really is unusable trash.

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Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

LeeMajors posted:

Yeah it’s like the only way to get actual reviews.

Sucks that it’s dying.

gently caress the internet sucks now.

It sure does

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