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Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

OHMSS did it because they needed to establish "this is totally the same guy!"

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NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Philippe posted:

OHMSS did it because they needed to establish "this is totally the same guy!"

"This never happened to the other feller!"

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
In Cannonball Run, Arthur Foyt is ascending the stairs with Beauty, going on and on about how he's an aggressive man, a wild bull, all while pushing one hand down on her shoulder to lift himself up the stairs.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

(And from a few pages ago since I did a quick scroll back, there are two Bond films that include footage from the others. Hmmm, maybe three now? On Her Majesty's Secret Service includes footage from all the Connery films in the opening credits. Spectre includes footage from the previous three Craig films in the opening credits, which I always see as a mini homage to OHMSS.)

In a similar vein, one of the Pierce Brosnan movies, I think Die Another Day, has a scene with him and Q (By this point being played by John Cleese) going through a shop filled with gadgets and weapons and stuff from basically every previous movie. He briefly turns on the jet pack from Thunderball and there’s some quick mention about it being stuff from his previous X number of missions and that was the Xth movie made.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




I don't know why the movies keep acting like it's the same person. People love the idea that James Bond is a code name, just look at how many times it's popped up itt over the years. I thought we were past this bullshit with Craig, but then they decided no, wait, it's not a reboot after all, hey look it's the car from Goldfinger

Like, don't play into it, that would ruin it, but don't have one Bond weeping at the grave of another Bond's wife

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Bond movies have jerked themselves raw about this forever. Patient zero is probably "this never happened to the other fella" from OHMSS, but the post-Cold War movies just keep doing it.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I mean bond continuity is pretty arbitrary and based off just works with the movie and that seems to be the best way to go. Like there really doesn't actually seem to be a reason to come down one way or another.

Everyone knows what a bond film is, no need to complicate things.

MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

I'm about as worried if different Bonds are the same continuity as I am if the Daffy Duck from Space Jam was actually Robin Hood.

Crescent Wrench
Sep 30, 2005

The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
Grimey Drawer

MokBa posted:

I'm about as worried if different Bonds are the same continuity as I am if the Daffy Duck from Space Jam was actually Robin Hood.

I've lost a lot of sleep over it too. PM me and I can hook you up with an understanding support group.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

dr_rat posted:

I mean bond continuity is pretty arbitrary and based off just works with the movie and that seems to be the best way to go. Like there really doesn't actually seem to be a reason to come down one way or another.

Everyone knows what a bond film is, no need to complicate things.

Seriously, just make a Bond movie. COntinuity doesn't matter much to me in general but especially in a film series like this one.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Bond sucks, the only good spy movie is The Looking Glass War

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Bond sucks, the only good spy movie is The Looking Glass War

Atomic Blonde kicks rear end

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.

Ravenfood posted:

Atomic Blonde kicks rear end

Is that the movie where Scarlet Johansson learns to use more than 10% of her mind, which enables her to like control gravity and poo poo?

Because that movie was fuckin duuuuuuumb

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

credburn posted:

Is that the movie where Scarlet Johansson learns to use more than 10% of her mind, which enables her to like control gravity and poo poo?

Because that movie was fuckin duuuuuuumb

Not at all, that was Lucy. Atomic Blonde is a Cold War spy thriller with Charlize Theron and it whips rear end.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
That was Lucy, and it was trash directly from an rear end in a top hat. Atomic Blonde is the Charlize Theron one where she's cold war John Wick. eee fff bbb

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

credburn posted:

Is that the movie where Scarlet Johansson learns to use more than 10% of her mind, which enables her to like control gravity and poo poo?

Because that movie was fuckin duuuuuuumb

That's Lucy. Atomic Blonde is a mid spy action movie with a HEALTH cover of Blue Monday in the trailer.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Bond sucks, the only good spy movie is The Looking Glass War

XXX: The Return of Xander Cage would like a word

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Torquemada posted:

That was Lucy, and it was trash directly from an rear end in a top hat. Atomic Blonde is the Charlize Theron one where she's cold war John Wick. eee fff bbb


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx12ZKQKOEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujilmYgyUis

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
She kept on pressing all those keys to make those screensavers go away, but they just wouldn't. :(

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I thought Lucy was fun, it was my kind of stupid. High concept nonsense from beginning to end with a whoel speech that existed just to give the director an excuse to show endless footage of animals loving.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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I like when she went back in time and met her pre-human ancestor, also named Lucy.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


I like when the final climax was her needing to turn into a USB stick.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

We never know when our final climax will be. You may have already had yours

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

freeedr posted:

We never know when our final climax will be.

Well fortunately for those of us who were smart enough to star in the porn film Final Climax, some of us 100% do.

:smug:

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Bond sucks, the only good spy movie is The Looking Glass War
I quite liked A Dandy in Aspic from the same era.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I love the guy from the Triad in Lucy who thinks he's the primary villain because he's confused about which Genre of movie he's in - he thinks it's a revenge story, but when Lucy catches back up with him, she just pins him to the chair by his hands, and uses her new telepathy to tear the information she's looking for from his mind, and lectures him about how she's moved beyond the mortal plane and that he's still stuck in his limited world view, ending with (paraphrased) "Even now, all you can focus on is the pain. Everything else is completely blocked out, all that you know is incredible pain." Then when the movie ends, he's just stood there, no idea what the gently caress is going on, no one in the room is intimidated by him and all his goons are dead, and he's just totally confused, in a foreign country surrounded by cops.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Bond sucks, the only good spy movie is The Looking Glass War

haywire?!?!

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

BiggerBoat posted:

Seriously, just make a Bond movie. COntinuity doesn't matter much to me in general but especially in a film series like this one.
Decided to quote you instead of the others because of the Robert Shaw avatar (natch Grant, From Russia With Love, maybe my least favorite), who has the most marvelous quotes in Jaws. "If you see a shark Mr Hooper, swallow!" (Also his rambling about depth charges and fire drills and norwesters).

Once they get to GoldenEye they start playing a lot with "9yr later" and other devices, suggesting that each is one story in the same character's exploits. Whereas some of the former had "arcs", and this seems true of some of the movies to come, each might actually occur at any point during Bond's career. The only connections are given by the cross references. EG License to Kill (Revoked) happened after the events of OHMSS.

This mirrors the short stories, which have no notion of exterior chronology (admittedly I have not read them all).

jazzyjay
Sep 11, 2003

PULL OVER
Uh I think you're forgetting Spies Like Us

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
Saw a Ratatouille reference (way up thread, I'm catching up). I like that they did enough research (or just made a good guess) to get basic rat movement correct. Remi likes to climb (so do rats), moves quickly through open areas, is mostly near walls. Yeah, they've studied this stuff, since we do lots of rat studies anyway. Rats are very agoraphobic; they maximize nearby walls "for security". The first I found randomly: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18297193/

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

flavor.flv posted:

I don't know why the movies keep acting like it's the same person. People love the idea that James Bond is a code name, just look at how many times it's popped up itt over the years. I thought we were past this bullshit with Craig, but then they decided no, wait, it's not a reboot after all, hey look it's the car from Goldfinger

Casino Royale already established that James Bond and 007 are both codenames that get assigned to multiple people.

It wasn't very good, but neither were a lot of other Bond movies, including Casino Royale

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



HelleSpud posted:

Not really.

In the dream and the flashbacks they're the same, but at the end when he returns home, and he call to them like he regretted not doing in the memory before he ran they're played by older kids in similar, but different, clothes.


From the credits:

Claire Geare . . . Phillipa (3 Years Old)
Magnus Nolan... James (20 Months Old)
Taylor Geare . . . Phillipa (5 Years Old)
Johnathan Geare... James (3 Years Old)

welp

still their taste in city building is basic af

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer

The best thing about the movie was the graffiti behind her when she was being held captive was just random Chinese words like tomato. I guess the set designer just grabbed what he thought were cool words but ended up with a weird grocery list.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

The best thing about the movie was the graffiti behind her when she was being held captive was just random Chinese words like tomato. I guess the set designer just grabbed what he thought were cool words but ended up with a weird grocery list.

could be like in homeland where some of the Arabic graffiti is calling out the show specifically
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/oct/15/homeland-is-racist-artists-subversive-graffiti-tv-show

HelleSpud
Apr 1, 2010

Carthag Tuek posted:

welp

still their taste in city building is basic af

I found out from this https://bennet-7.livejournal.com/92575.html LiveJournal post that goes over all the costumes in the movie.




Each character has their own style, and the team members when working and travelling have outfits made out of mixing a limited number of re-used pieces.

They are tidy in the dream, but sloppy in reality.

They wear more layers in the dream - and maybe more layers the more layers they are down, as quick visual cue to help the audience track where they are.

The team in Arthur's hotel dream have similar clothing flourishes - patterns, paisley accents - that follow how Arthur dresses himself in reality. Ariadne's shirt in that layer is made out of a folded, draped fabric that parallels Saito's nagajuban in Arthur's restaurant dream at the beginning.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



HelleSpud posted:

I found out from this https://bennet-7.livejournal.com/92575.html LiveJournal post that goes over all the costumes in the movie.




Each character has their own style, and the team members when working and travelling have outfits made out of mixing a limited number of re-used pieces.

They are tidy in the dream, but sloppy in reality.

They wear more layers in the dream - and maybe more layers the more layers they are down, as quick visual cue to help the audience track where they are.

The team in Arthur's hotel dream have similar clothing flourishes - patterns, paisley accents - that follow how Arthur dresses himself in reality. Ariadne's shirt in that layer is made out of a folded, draped fabric that parallels Saito's nagajuban in Arthur's restaurant dream at the beginning.

wow, love this

i always thought hardy looked great in that very intentional "shabby" style

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
Goonies, I just noticed in the opening police chase they pass a house with a plumbers truck outside, then we see mouth and his father. I had always assumed it was just some dad at home trying to repair his house, but didn't get that it was a father who took his kid on a job?

I also watched it a dozen times before seeing the "orv" driving past their house in the scene change.

"Favorite subtlety" though has got to be the mother and son who both have word choice troubles. "I'm... I'm going to commit Hare Krishna!" (Okay okay they made it subtle so an 9yr old got it, but not a 6yo). (And it eventually infects Data, who says he's setting booty traps, even though he corrected Mikey early for the same thing.)

ps Favorite line: "I'm going to hit you so hard when you wake up your clothes will be out of style!". Also my favorite Ann Ramsey film.

pps (And the gate opener has "RubeG" written on it, but I noticed that years ago)

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MokBa
Jun 8, 2006

If you see something suspicious, bomb it!

Carthag Tuek posted:

wow, love this

i always thought hardy looked great in that very intentional "shabby" style

This article is kind of funny and shows how much fashion has changed since the movie came out. Hardy’s look is by far the most modern and fashion forward out of the bunch. I don’t think that was the intention behind his wardrobe at the time, but now his style is much more prevalent than the more classic look of the other characters. He’d be overdressed in nearly any modern office setting.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:


ps Favorite line: "I'm going to hit you so hard when you wake up your clothes will be out of style!". Also my favorite Ann Ramsey film.

Just fyi, there is quite a difference between Anne Ramsey and Anne Ramsay. Both great female actresses, though.

Amphigory
Feb 6, 2005




MokBa posted:

This article is kind of funny and shows how much fashion has changed since the movie came out. Hardy’s look is by far the most modern and fashion forward out of the bunch. I don’t think that was the intention behind his wardrobe at the time, but now his style is much more prevalent than the more classic look of the other characters. He’d be overdressed in nearly any modern office setting.

COVID did an absolute number on how people dress in the office

All my smart shirts are in storage now, and I wasn't even that smartly dressed in the before times

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deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
This is either a dumbass oversight or a loving brilliant joke.


Either way, I am looking forward to the sequel.

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