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I am legitimately curious as to how they made the $621.93. Was that just tours of the museum/basement, or was there a bank error in their favor, or what?
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Did they even have a book to sell or anything close to a product? Even a hat or something?
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Jun 14, 2023 20:35
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Coulda sworn I saw little packs of dice with their branding at one point or another.
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Jun 14, 2023 20:41
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I'm trying to remember if they actually sold any copies of Transphobic Star Frontiers or if the pictures were all just Photoshopped. They sold some zines, right?
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Jun 14, 2023 21:14
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It could be as simple as someone investing in them right? And by someone i mean like...1 weirdo
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Jun 14, 2023 22:42
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Investment isn’t revenue.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm trying to remember if they actually sold any copies of Transphobic Star Frontiers or if the pictures were all just Photoshopped. They didn't sell any TERFrontiers*, and they variously sorta-denied it was real but also how dare you look at a leaked draft of something. Also I seem to recall the author was outed as a just-shy-of-self-proclaimed Nazi who totally would write weird RaHoWa adjacent horseshit unironically. * I think they claimed to have instantly sold out of a super secret draft printing that absolutely didn't exist, that no one knew anything about or could back it up until right when it was convenient to claim it existed in an internet argument about their weird racism. That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jun 14, 2023 |
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Jun 14, 2023 22:51
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"I am my own biggest creditor" to the tune of "I am my own grandpa" Eh, at least "I'm my own grandpa" was played for laughs when Futurama did it. This is just sad.
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Jun 14, 2023 22:51
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mandatory lesbian posted:It could be as simple as someone investing in them right? And by someone i mean like...1 weirdo
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Jun 14, 2023 23:02
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I wonder if I could dig up that awful Star Frontiers content as it was. With them likely going out of business it'll be fair game for the show. Of course I'd never give them a full platform but it'd be fun to include in some sort of poo poo flinging schadenfreude roundup.
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Jun 15, 2023 00:50
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Their whole business model was the assumption that "get woke go broke" works backwards. It never even worked that way forwards!
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moths posted:Their whole business model was the assumption that "get woke go broke" works backwards. Well, we've disproven the inverse, but now that they're going broke we can at least see if the converse holds
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Jun 15, 2023 08:03
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Nope, it's go fash, no cash.
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moths posted:Their whole business model was the assumption that "get woke go broke" works backwards. Yeah. You have like a handful of ComicGate projects that did okay... but a lot of that was from outside funding and it's clearly been shown that the coffers for people angry about a brown girl calling herself Ms. Marvel aren't exactly deep because the upper middle class jet ski dealership people who're the financial backbone of chuddery don't care about comics and when you get down to several levels below that with tabletop RPGs, forget about it.
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Drakyn posted:Portray the space marines as skaven stormvermin. You want to deromanticize the fascists in 40k, you pull off the glamour and the glitz and start writing them the same way you do your compulsively backstabbing wunderwaffen-addicted failurerats. Back in the original Rogue Trader days (ie 1E of the wargame, not the much later RPG) it was apparent that Space Marines were outright grotesque under their armour (at least in some of the art), their origins as hideous creations of biochemical, surgical, and cybernetic fuckery horribly obvious. But they weren't consistent with it and handsome marines became standard, which just ups the propaganda stakes. Make them broken monsters and you go some way towards restoring the original intent and dialling the gently caress back on the hero worship.
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Aniodia posted:Eh, at least "I'm my own grandpa" was played for laughs when Futurama did it. This is just sad. You seem to be unaware of the song, which means you're in for a treat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:You seem to be unaware of the song, which means you're in for a treat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw I love how the situation is much more confusing without involving any time travel OR incest.
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Aniodia posted:Eh, at least "I'm my own grandpa" was played for laughs when Futurama did it. This is just sad.
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Warthur posted:Back in the original Rogue Trader days (ie 1E of the wargame, not the much later RPG) it was apparent that Space Marines were outright grotesque under their armour (at least in some of the art), their origins as hideous creations of biochemical, surgical, and cybernetic fuckery horribly obvious. Midwinter Minis did a "vitruvian man" print a while ago based on the idea of what people with all of the Space Marine additional organs would actually look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6xKGAUsA0
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Maxwell Lord posted:I am legitimately curious as to how they made the $621.93. Was that just tours of the museum/basement, or was there a bank error in their favor, or what? Website ads?
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Lamuella posted:Midwinter Minis did a "vitruvian man" print a while ago based on the idea of what people with all of the Space Marine additional organs would actually look like They give Space Marines extra arms and legs?
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Cessna posted:They give Space Marines extra arms and legs? the Vitruvian Man is a Da Vinci sketch used to show human proportions
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Maxwell Lord posted:I am legitimately curious as to how they made the $621.93. Was that just tours of the museum/basement, or was there a bank error in their favor, or what? did they not have a convention in march and manage to gather at least a dozen miserable dead-eyed cultists together?
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Comstar posted:Satire Without Purpose Will Wander In Dark Places is a very long deep dive into Warhammer 40K, it's history and how corporate blandness made it is what it is today. Very interesting read, thank you Edit: just popped up in my feed, seemed apropos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDo_17toVs PoontifexMacksimus fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jun 16, 2023 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Bonus point is that this way they can be even more entertaining because they're a lot funnier. That's why I liked Skaven. They were cowardly little bastards, but they had cool toys and made no excuse for just being little cowardly shits.
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Lamuella posted:Midwinter Minis did a "vitruvian man" print a while ago based on the idea of what people with all of the Space Marine additional organs would actually look like Somehow I missed that the space marine hormone therapy starts pre puberty. Just reinforces that they could do so much interesting stuff with the idea that genetic males and genetic female could start the process but by the time they're done loving with all the hormone glands and implanting new ones the space Marines come out as biological males regardless of initial genetics.
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Soylent Pudding posted:Somehow I missed that the space marine hormone therapy starts pre puberty. Just reinforces that they could do so much interesting stuff with the idea that genetic males and genetic female could start the process but by the time they're done loving with all the hormone glands and implanting new ones the space Marines come out as biological males regardless of initial genetics. Oh no don’t get that queer child mutilation stuff in my BIG MANLY SPESS MAHRINES
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Soylent Pudding posted:Somehow I missed that the space marine hormone therapy starts pre puberty. Just reinforces that they could do so much interesting stuff with the idea that genetic males and genetic female could start the process but by the time they're done loving with all the hormone glands and implanting new ones the space Marines come out as biological males regardless of initial genetics. I've always preferred the thought that by the time Space Marines are declared full battle brothers they are biologically Space Marine. Neither men nor women* have a Belcher's Gland or a second heart**, for example. *As far as I know, feel free to correct me. **In their body, I know several women who collect preserved body parts but those don't count.
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My 40k headcannon has always been that since Space Marines are explicitly posthuman, they're also postgender. The process of being turned into a Space Marine obliterates not only individuality but sex, gender, and sexuality. Fascism explicitly dehumanizes its enforcers; it doesn't matter what gender they were before their transformation because they always come out the other end as hulking sexless monsters. Use of male pronouns for Space Marines is deference to a combination of Emperor worship ("WE ARE HIS SONS  ") and institutionalized sexism.
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Froghammer posted:My 40k headcannon has always been that since Space Marines are explicitly posthuman, they're also postgender. The process of being turned into a Space Marine obliterates not only individuality but sex, gender, and sexuality. Fascism explicitly dehumanizes its enforcers; it doesn't matter what gender they were before their transformation because they always come out the other end as hulking sexless monsters. Exactly. Having obviously sexless, genderless post-humans still coded as male is way more interesting than "girls are icky" .
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I believe strongly in ladymarine haircuts and heads being a thing that should exist because they look cool.
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But also battle nuns
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Battle nuns need to exist so the gray knights have blood to sanctify their armor in.
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w00tmonger posted:But also battle nuns Infinity has these too, amusingly enough in lore they oppose the Friend Computer that the Catholic Space Knights are generally friendly with though there's enough wiggle room in lore for any faction to oppose or ally with almost any other.
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bbcisdabomb posted:I've always preferred the thought that by the time Space Marines are declared full battle brothers they are biologically Space Marine. Neither men nor women* have a Belcher's Gland or a second heart**, for example.
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Froghammer posted:My 40k headcannon has always been that since Space Marines are explicitly posthuman, they're also postgender. The process of being turned into a Space Marine obliterates not only individuality but sex, gender, and sexuality. Fascism explicitly dehumanizes its enforcers; it doesn't matter what gender they were before their transformation because they always come out the other end as hulking sexless monsters. This is also close to actual canon. Even the marines that follow the chaos god of pleasure are sexless. There's a short story where a marine is at a dinner party and understands intellectually the human mating rituals on display but has no real interest in them. The last decade or so they've been making the marines explicitly not human. They more like Greek demigods. Stronger, faster, in some ways smarter, much more prideful than the mortals around them.
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Froghammer posted:My 40k headcannon has always been that since Space Marines are explicitly posthuman, they're also postgender. The process of being turned into a Space Marine obliterates not only individuality but sex, gender, and sexuality. Fascism explicitly dehumanizes its enforcers; it doesn't matter what gender they were before their transformation because they always come out the other end as hulking sexless monsters. Which hits a new level of comic irony when you realize the Orks are genderless fungi assigned a male gender too. Ego Trip posted:This is also close to actual canon. Yeah, all the sexualization in Slaaneshi armies is the daemons, who use it to prey on mortals. The Marines hyper-dedicated to Slaanesh are Noise Marines who got so into sensation that they make people explode with sound. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jun 18, 2023 |
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Black Crusade, the 'play as Chaos' 40K RPG, ran much more with being flamboyant than sexy which was a nice touch.
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Slaanesh is big titty crabclaw demons yes, but I always felt like Hedonism Bot was a better model for what they were going for: https://youtu.be/e6XXCip04us
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