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A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

I like how the article talks about whether or not Consent Decrees work and is completely silent on the NOPD consent decree. (spoilers: abject failure)

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


A.o.D. posted:

I like how the article talks about whether or not Consent Decrees work and is completely silent on the NOPD consent decree. (spoilers: abject failure)

It reminds me of the instant pot bankruptcy. The New York Times and the Atlantic have both run stories on it and neither mentioned that investors loaned the company about 500 million and then pay themselves 250 million in bonuses leveraging them with even more debt.

It’s a bit annoying when multiple media outlets, cover some thing and leave out basic fundamental parts of the story .

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Then there's the voices saying they're a bad idea in the article: cops claiming lower morale for the police, and Jeff Sessions saying it's not worth the money.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

silvergoose posted:

Then there's the voices saying they're a bad idea in the article: cops claiming lower morale for the police, and Jeff Sessions saying it's not worth the money.

Jeff Sessions, man there's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Not long enough tho dude's gotta be pushing 80 when does the reaper come and collect his apartheid keebler elf? It has escaped from the shelf it was kept on come and get it back.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
Since I'm apparently not allowed to slap TIME'S social media intern with a wet fish. What about the reporter who thought Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was a good source on the question "should the government try to stop the police brutalizing black people"?

e: apparently it's an argument he made while he was the AG but the article treats it as credible nonetheless

Discussion Quorum fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Jun 17, 2023

winnydpu
May 3, 2007
Sugartime Jones

pantslesswithwolves posted:

OR Tambo is an airport where you need a police/armed private security escort just getting out of the airport’s grounds.

I go to South Africa every year, we just got back two weeks ago from out 14th visit. This is bullshit with a grain of truth. It's not Europe or America, but come on. We don't put any valuables in the checked luggage, which makes for a very heavy carry-on. No escort needed. However, you are subject to the same pick-pockets and pan-handlers at the airport as you are in many parts of the world. People take advantage of the jet-lagged and confused. Use normal precautions. Trip before this one I did get stopped by the police for a bullshit bribe as I was leaving the airport.

South Africa appears to Americans like I imagine America appears to Europeans: You can't trust the police like you do at home, the violence is about 10x worse and the infrastructure is falling apart. Also, much like America, the violence is not evenly distributed. We get in the car and 10 minutes later I'm out in the country on a toll road better than most in America. Small town South Africa is beautiful.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

winnydpu posted:

South Africa appears to Americans like I imagine America appears to Europeans: You can't trust the police like you do at home, the violence is about 10x worse and the infrastructure is falling apart. Also, much like America, the violence is not evenly distributed.
Man, this is a real good description of perceptions of the global south.

TheWeedNumber
Apr 20, 2020

by sebmojo

winnydpu posted:

I go to South Africa every year, we just got back two weeks ago from out 14th visit. This is bullshit with a grain of truth. It's not Europe or America, but come on. We don't put any valuables in the checked luggage, which makes for a very heavy carry-on. No escort needed. However, you are subject to the same pick-pockets and pan-handlers at the airport as you are in many parts of the world. People take advantage of the jet-lagged and confused. Use normal precautions. Trip before this one I did get stopped by the police for a bullshit bribe as I was leaving the airport.

South Africa appears to Americans like I imagine America appears to Europeans: You can't trust the police like you do at home, the violence is about 10x worse and the infrastructure is falling apart. Also, much like America, the violence is not evenly distributed. We get in the car and 10 minutes later I'm out in the country on a toll road better than most in America. Small town South Africa is beautiful.

counting on my fingers the times i had to worry about getting jacked outside of the following airports in LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS:

winnydpu
May 3, 2007
Sugartime Jones

TheWeedNumber posted:

counting on my fingers the times i had to worry about getting jacked outside of the following airports in LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS:

I would bet the average German tourist worries a lot more about making a wrong turn coming out of Miami airport and getting jacked than they do about taking a wrong turn coming out of Munich. Same deal.

TheWeedNumber
Apr 20, 2020

by sebmojo

winnydpu posted:

I would bet the average German tourist worries a lot more about making a wrong turn coming out of Miami airport and getting jacked than they do about taking a wrong turn coming out of Munich. Same deal.

me tryna get my hybrid out of the enterprise lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqrB9hOUWqA

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

winnydpu posted:

I go to South Africa every year, we just got back two weeks ago from out 14th visit. This is bullshit with a grain of truth. It's not Europe or America, but come on. We don't put any valuables in the checked luggage, which makes for a very heavy carry-on. No escort needed. However, you are subject to the same pick-pockets and pan-handlers at the airport as you are in many parts of the world. People take advantage of the jet-lagged and confused. Use normal precautions. Trip before this one I did get stopped by the police for a bullshit bribe as I was leaving the airport.

South Africa appears to Americans like I imagine America appears to Europeans: You can't trust the police like you do at home, the violence is about 10x worse and the infrastructure is falling apart. Also, much like America, the violence is not evenly distributed. We get in the car and 10 minutes later I'm out in the country on a toll road better than most in America. Small town South Africa is beautiful.

I’m going by what the United Nations Department of Safety and Security advised in response to a number of armed robberies that actually took place on the airport grounds itself a few years ago. (I used to be a security advisor for a UN agency.) I’m sure most people who visit do so without incident, everything I’ve heard about the country suggests that if things go wrong, they go wrong real quick.

I personally felt more sketched out in Addis Ababa than any other of the dozen African capitals I’ve been to, and most people tend to regard Addis as lower risk than Joburg or Cape Town.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Man, I remember the last time I had to bribe the cops in Atlanta

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Carteret posted:

Man, I remember the last time I had to bribe the cops in Atlanta

I live about 6 to 8 hours away from Atlanta in the south and I still don't know how to read this.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
the first and only time I had to bribe a cop was in mexico and my mexican national ex told me i gave them too much afterwards. there should be a guide for this kind of thing

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

A.o.D. posted:

I live about 6 to 8 hours away from Atlanta in the south and I still don't know how to read this.

He's being sarcastic

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
App idea: bribe exchange rates

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Bribr, the hot new app that takes the guesswork out of police corruption! Convenient auto-pay options included, just scan the QR code on the cop's badge.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


In the US the local governments have already bribed the police for you.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

winnydpu posted:

I would bet the average German tourist worries a lot more about making a wrong turn coming out of Miami airport and getting jacked than they do about taking a wrong turn coming out of Munich. Same deal.

German tourists should worry more about not understanding the sheer scale of Death Valley in comparison to hikes back home.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
And why fanny packs and black socks with sandals are a nono.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Evil SpongeBob posted:

And why fanny packs and black socks with sandals are a nono.

Too sexy for you?

Anyways I thought I was getting asked for a bribe by a Croatian cop because he said I would get a discount if I payed cash for my speeding ticket. The amount was pretty small so I just smiled and nodded and payed out but then he gave me a receipt with a penciled in serial number and apparently it’s a legit way to pay for tickets there.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Atleast one town in oregon or washington has that system too. You pay by the mph over the limit to make the ticket less severe. Dude i know was doing like 92 in a 65, paid a couple hundred bucks to the judge so it became doing 75 in a 65 and no points

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Bored As gently caress posted:

He's being sarcastic

With all of the copland poo poo happening there I couldn't be sure, you know?

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Somebody hasn't learned "don't feed the troll":

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1669864938314268672

The glorious, glorious trolls.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jun 17, 2023

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

CBJSprague24 posted:

Somebody hasn't learned to not feed the troll:

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1669864938314268672

The glorious, glorious trolls.

It is his struggle.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Stultus Maximus posted:

It is his struggle.

Hes going to write a book about it, and fash will buy it

"My Bigly Struggle" or something like it

Still workshopping the title

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Hyrax Attack! posted:

German tourists should worry more about not understanding the sheer scale of Death Valley in comparison to hikes back home.

I laughed but it was a rough chuckle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Valley_Germans

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

TheWeedNumber posted:

counting on my fingers the times i had to worry about getting jacked outside of the following airports in LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS:

people breaking into rental cars to steal luggage at the gas stations outside OAK is apparently quite common

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

people breaking into rental cars to steal luggage at the gas stations outside OAK is apparently quite common

Someone had a uhaul full of stuff from a cross country move jacked near SeaTac recently, but that probably not terribly uncommon anywhere.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
We talked about malaria vaccines last (?) month.

Vox has an article about what the rollout is looking like.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

In a similar vein, thieves have been known to sit outside indoor ranges and then follow people when they leave, because the most common activity after is getting food.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Elmo's idiot brigade has been posting poo poo like this all day because they don't know what a National Guard / Reserve Unit is.

https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1670140737932099584

https://twitter.com/WillingWitness/status/1670105895811051520

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Jade Helm morons still doin their thing

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

orange juche posted:

Jade Helm morons still doin their thing

You beat me to it!

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

bulletsponge13 posted:

In a similar vein, thieves have been known to sit outside indoor ranges and then follow people when they leave, because the most common activity after is getting food.

Yeah parked cars are a major source of gun thefts. Often because of helpful labels to alert thieves unattended guns are there for the taking:

quote:

There is little question about the scope of the problem. A report issued in May by the gun-control group Everytown for Gun Safety analyzed FBI crime data in 271 American cities, large and small, from 2020 and found that guns stolen from vehicles have become the nation’s largest source of stolen firearms — with an estimated 40,000 guns stolen from cars in those cities alone.

In some cities, organized groups of young people have swept through neighborhoods and areas around sports arenas, looking for weapons left under car seats or in unlocked center consoles or glove compartments. Their work is occasionally made easier by motorists who advertise their right to bear arms with car window stickers promoting favored gun brands, or that declare “molon labe” — a defiant message from ancient Sparta, which roughly translates as “come and take them.”

Increasingly, thieves are doing just that. The Everytown researchers found that a decade ago, less than a quarter of all gun thefts were from cars; in 2020, over half of them were. The researchers say more study is needed to understand the shift, which has occurred as more states have adopted permitless carry laws and messages in gun-industry marketing have encouraged Americans to take their weapons with them for personal protection.

Surely the gun lobby would be ok with simple lockboxes to keep these safe?

quote:

Mr. Hemmer’s bill is supported by John C. Drake, the Nashville Police chief, who on Tuesday wrote a letter to legislative leaders in which he mentioned that the high-profile robbery and killing of a local country musician, Kyle Yorlets, in 2019 was carried out by youths using a pistol stolen from a vehicle.

“With gun ownership comes serious responsibility on several fronts, including securing guns, particularly in motor vehicles, so that they do not come into the hands of thieves/violent criminals,” Mr. Drake wrote.

The Tennessee lockbox legislation is already generating controversy, an indication of how steadfastly gun-rights advocates oppose nearly any laws that might restrict gun owners.

The legislation is opposed by the N.R.A. Amy Hunter, an N.R.A. spokeswoman, called Mr. Hemmer’s bill “feckless” in a statement and said it would discourage theft victims from reporting the stolen guns to the police.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/25/...&smid=url-share

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Some of the replies in that thread are amazing.

THE STORM IS UPON US!

MARSHALL LAW!

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Yeah parked cars are a major source of gun thefts. Often because of helpful labels to alert thieves unattended guns are there for the taking:

Surely the gun lobby would be ok with simple lockboxes to keep these safe?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/25/...&smid=url-share



FWIW, I don’t know a single gun owner who likes the NRA. Everyone except obstinate boomer donors recognizes them as the turbo grifting machine that they’ve turned into.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Yeah parked cars are a major source of gun thefts. Often because of helpful labels to alert thieves unattended guns are there for the taking:

The Moron Label is apparently even more apt than I thought.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

pantslesswithwolves posted:



FWIW, I don’t know a single gun owner who likes the NRA. Everyone except obstinate boomer donors recognizes them as the turbo grifting machine that they’ve turned into.

i appreciate the literalness of this

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Came and took it

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