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The best thread of The Sopranos is this, and also the fact that every few episodes some Sopranos family member starts adopting sayings from Livia. Tony, AJ, Meadow, and Janice at least. I don't recall Carmela borrowing the sayings but the other members of the family all do.
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Every time Tony or AJ drops an "oh, poor you" it's loving incredible
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Jun 18, 2023 05:19
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Janice's last ever scene is I think her talking about how glad she is that she isn't anything like Livia, while simultaneously complaining about a lack of financial security while reclining outside her giant house and even repeating some of Livia's dismissive physical gestures.
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Jun 18, 2023 05:31
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Jerusalem posted:Janice's last ever scene is I think her talking about how glad she is that she isn't anything like Livia, while simultaneously complaining about a lack of financial security while reclining outside her giant house and even repeating some of Livia's dismissive physical gestures.
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Jun 18, 2023 05:39
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I seem to remember even Melfi saying something that sounded oddly Livia-ish once. “Oh go on” with a dismissive wave of her hand or something.
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Jun 18, 2023 05:42
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I believe that was when she was drinking prior to Tony’s sessions and he correctly sussed her out on it- “you seem like you’re on drugs”
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Jun 18, 2023 05:44
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FlamingLiberal posted:The best thread of The Sopranos is this, and also the fact that every few episodes some Sopranos family member starts adopting sayings from Livia. Tony, AJ, Meadow, and Janice at least. I don't recall Carmela borrowing the sayings but the other members of the family all do. There's a lot of things I can say right now that I'm not gonna say!
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Jun 18, 2023 08:05
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it’s all a big nothing
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Jun 18, 2023 08:33
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Vichan posted:There's a lot of things I can say right now that I'm not gonna say! I wonder if that was a Johnny saying because both Tony and Janice use it all the time but Livia never did.
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Jun 18, 2023 09:50
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah you can see throughout the series that despite hating her mother, by the end of the show she's just a younger Livia. Down to being a widow. There's been discussion here and elsewhere just how well off Johnny Boy left Livia and how Livia may have lived like a poveretto because she enjoyed feeling miserable and it makes me wonder if Janice wasn't spinning a story as well because one can imagine Bobby providing if not for her then for his kids but didn't even have Livia's fortitude to lean into living within her means.
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Jun 18, 2023 11:50
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ulvir posted:it’s all a big nothing you go about in pity for yourself
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Jun 18, 2023 12:07
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Dawgstar posted:There's been discussion here and elsewhere just how well off Johnny Boy left Livia and how Livia may have lived like a poveretto because she enjoyed feeling miserable and it makes me wonder if Janice wasn't spinning a story as well because one can imagine Bobby providing if not for her then for his kids but didn't even have Livia's fortitude to lean into living within her means. didn't Tony make a point about being more successful than his father in a therapy session?
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Jun 18, 2023 12:45
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though obviously and objectively, the house Livia lived in is probably 10x better constructed than the mcmansion he lives in.
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Jun 18, 2023 12:47
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ulvir posted:didn't Tony make a point about being more successful than his father in a therapy session? While this is true, and he both raised to a rank his father never did and has made a shitload more money, he also had a shitload more expenses. Johnny apparently never moved out of that house they raised the kids in, and while I'm sure he had his mistress shacked up somewhere in an apartment I have to figure he never had the same expenses Tony dealt with. I also got the impression he wasn't much of a gambler, though his lesson to Tony not to gamble could have just been another example of hypocrisy from a guy who lived his life as he pleased. He was resentful of not taking up that offer to go out to Vegas (or was it Atlantic City?) and making big money there, but I didn't get the sense he was hurting for cash and like Junior probably had a pretty good "retirement fund" tucked away somewhere in nearby.
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Jun 18, 2023 13:25
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*92 second acapella solo* i gotta piss
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Jerusalem posted:
She’d rather smother them with a pillow than take them to Nevada!
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Jun 18, 2023 16:46
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now you tell me one time your father didn't do exactly what he wanted
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A semester and a half of college back then was a major fuckin expense. Columbia is nothing compared to that.
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Ries posted:She’d rather smother them with a pillow than take them to Nevada! You're like an albacore around my neck!
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Dawgstar posted:There's been discussion here and elsewhere just how well off Johnny Boy left Livia and how Livia may have lived like a poveretto because she enjoyed feeling miserable and it makes me wonder if Janice wasn't spinning a story as well because one can imagine Bobby providing if not for her then for his kids but didn't even have Livia's fortitude to lean into living within her means. Listen - Bobby left your sister a package that could choke a goddamn elephant! You know how much those model trains are worth?
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A new piece on Gandolfini and how great he was: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/06/james-gandolfini-the-sopranos-remembered  
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there really is no god, to take a guy like that away from us so soon huh if there were an afterlife i'd hope him and adam yauch are up there in a VIP section they need but don't want, but probably there isn't
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Ainsley McTree posted:there really is no god, to take a guy like that away from us so soon huh As long as Robin Williams is chillin with them too i like this. Those 3 always bum me out when i realize they’ve passed.
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Michael K Williams and Lance Reddick too 
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Ainsley McTree posted:Hesh's face at the end of Christopher's "even with computahs" speech has to be one of the top 10 funniest moments of the show to me That scene is top tier for me.
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MyLightyear posted:That scene is top tier for me. gently caress it let's watch it again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQrQcAzMb8E Hesh always stands out to me but everyone's face is killing it
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I wonder when recommending the show to prospective new viewers if I should tell them to look at it as both the genesis and zenith of prestige television, or tell them to expect basically a full on comedy
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One of my favourite little verité moments- AJ staring blankly out the window while Carmela prepares Thanksgiving dinner. The phone rings, Carmela picks it up and says audibly within earshot of AJ, "Meadow, hi!" and AJ immediately asks who it is on the phone.
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codo27 posted:I wonder when recommending the show to prospective new viewers if I should tell them to look at it as both the genesis and zenith of prestige television, or tell them to expect basically a full on comedy I'd tell them they're on the precipice of an enormous crossroads.
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Jun 23, 2023 20:45
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I had no idea until i finally watched the show how much of it is a comedy
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Every time I see The Bear listed as a comedy, my first thought is “it’s no sopranos”
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Ainsley McTree posted:gently caress it let's watch it again Hugh, too. That look of slight confusion sliding into contempt.
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The Livia funeral episode has to be one of the best of the entire series. Just with how everyone keeps trying to avoid saying how lovely she was as a person until near the end of the episode.
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Jun 23, 2023 22:13
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Nononono I dont want any of that California Bullpoo poo!!
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At least she didn’t suffer.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:At least she didn’t suffer. it's funny (well not "funny", but), my grandpa died about a year ago, after a pretty hard battle with some health issues, and there was a lot of "at least he's at peace now" and I kept thinking of Tony blankly nodding It's a hollow thing to say to be sure, but honestly what else are the various distant relatives and acquaintances that come to funerals supposed to say in that situation. It's ultimately just a synonym for "sorry for your loss," or "my condolences" which is sometimes the most appropriate thing you can say depending on your relation to the family (or in the case of the sopranos, the deceased; my grandpa tbf was much more likeable); I feel like trying to get any deeper or more profound is quite risky, as Christopher taught us
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Pope Corky the IX posted:At least she didn’t suffer.
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Ainsley McTree posted:it's funny (well not "funny", but), my grandpa died about a year ago, after a pretty hard battle with some health issues, and there was a lot of "at least he's at peace now" and I kept thinking of Tony blankly nodding I usually stick with a resigned "whattayagunna do." I actually did tell an aunt of mine to "have a good day" at her husband's funeral though. Stupid customer-service poisoned brain had me grimacing all the way to the car.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:At least she didn’t suffer. What a loving blow.
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The mundanity of funerals in The Sopranos is so good, both because of how it's used for comedic effect, and also because, frankly, it's a lot closer to the experience I've had with funerals than any other TV show has managed. That time Tony and Carmela take a break from Christopher's funeral to go to the funeral of Paulie's mom and he gets *so mad* almost nobody showed for her... what a good show.
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