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Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I know that people think that reddit are dying, but I just can't imagine all of this mattering a year from now. There are only like, 8 websites that people actually go to, and reddit is one of the main ones. Its hard to believe that people are going to move to another platform at any rate that is going to make a difference. I know similar things have happened before, but websites like Digg weren't exactly at the scale of Reddit. I suppose people did leave Tumblr though.

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Panic! At The Tesco
Aug 19, 2005

FART


Caesar Saladin posted:

I know that people think that reddit are dying, but I just can't imagine all of this mattering a year from now. There are only like, 8 websites that people actually go to, and reddit is one of the main ones. Its hard to believe that people are going to move to another platform at any rate that is going to make a difference. I know similar things have happened before, but websites like Digg weren't exactly at the scale of Reddit. I suppose people did leave Tumblr though.

not even a year, it's already mostly back to normal by the looks of things

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

^ Yeah that's my takeaway too. Or at least, I'm somewhat interested to see if anything happens which gives us good coordinates on where reddit lies on the 'too big to fail?' graph

Houle
Oct 21, 2010

teen witch posted:

But I think a significant part of it is so that us olds (so I guess 30 and up) had the internet as a more neutral, comparatively less profit driven entity. You can use it to research! Meet others into whatever niche poo poo you’re into! Make a cool website to further branch out! Limitless! Connect and relate with people!

Some of us grew into that mindset, others set that mindset into motion, that the internet was this massive archipelago of stuff and you’re given a boat to travel widely. The sea and islands keep on forming and there are new inlets and harbors to explore. You can build together or alone, find your own little island, or simply laze on by.

I don’t really feel that way about the internet anymore. There are limits and boundaries, haphazard and ill conceived. A subdivision of walled gardens, all with its it’s own rules and regulations, even if the plants within the gardens don’t quite grow well together. But does that matter that the soggy soil loving swamp marigolds is next to a more drought resistant plant? no - as long as the garden is pretty. Maybe the neighbors next door with the bigger garden would want to merge gardens, even if the insects and creatures contributing to the gardens ecosystem and survival, are threatened.

I think this particular Reddit disaster is a breaking point in what the internet was, and what the internet is being forced into becoming.

https://youtu.be/k1BneeJTDcU
Sums it up somewhat. Though I'd roll back "back before the towers fell" and maybe back when you had to go out of your way not to stumble upon some sort of pirated content. Also stumbleupon


Tbh it wasn't that rosey in the late 90s either. Nazis and other junk groups always had relay chats and Usenet groups to spread their ideology. Yahoo also wasn't really a great search engine either. I seem to remember a lot of angel fire, msn groups, geocities, and a sprinkling of early adopters of marketing - like emojis that would tap on the glass and say hello oOoOO and other annoying ads.

I miss how awkward it was when hosts would give the url to their website and have to sit there and repeat double you double you double you dot while trying to make the conversation look natural and hip.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Houle posted:

I miss how awkward it was when hosts would give the url to their website and have to sit there and repeat double you double you double you dot while trying to make the conversation look natural and hip.
hey
I want you to check out this website
go to double you double you double you dot en ef el dot com
and just check it out
double you double you double you dot en ef el dot com

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
And the AOL keyword is?????

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

teen witch posted:

And the AOL keyword is?????

AOL keywords were an amazing concept and they were so far ahead of their time they failed.

Montague Tigg
Mar 23, 2008

Previously, on "Ronnie Likes Data":

Caesar Saladin posted:

I know that people think that reddit are dying, but I just can't imagine all of this mattering a year from now. There are only like, 8 websites that people actually go to, and reddit is one of the main ones. Its hard to believe that people are going to move to another platform at any rate that is going to make a difference. I know similar things have happened before, but websites like Digg weren't exactly at the scale of Reddit. I suppose people did leave Tumblr though.

I read two books last week in the time that not looking at reddit freed up for me. I can't see myself going back at this point and SA has enough content to keep me entertained in small portions without scrolling through bot posts and cat pictures for hours. I know I'm part of a very small percentage but I'm glad this whole thing happened at least for my own mental health.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

In retrospect, we were lucky The Money was stupid and took so long to figure poo poo out. If Musk or Zuck could hop in a time machine and go back to turn the earliest online protocols into a walled garden, we'd all be a lot worse off.

dervival
Apr 23, 2014


Szechwan posted:

It's there a post scrambler tool out there?

Everyone is saying the tool that lets you delete all of your previous reddit posts is apparently worthless since reddit can just detect it's use and restore them the next day.

I wanna scramble mine into gibberish so they're completely worthless as a commodity, and maybe if we're lucky we get some real squirrelly LLMs in the future.

the trick is to edit horrifically offensive stuff into your old content gradually over a couple weeks then use the tool that deletes all your content; bet their backups only pick up the most recent version and wipe versioning history, that's the most common outcome of lazy recovery

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Caesar Saladin posted:

I know that people think that reddit are dying, but I just can't imagine all of this mattering a year from now. There are only like, 8 websites that people actually go to, and reddit is one of the main ones. Its hard to believe that people are going to move to another platform at any rate that is going to make a difference. I know similar things have happened before, but websites like Digg weren't exactly at the scale of Reddit. I suppose people did leave Tumblr though.

It's mirroring the discussion about the wide internet being talked about in this thread. It's clear what made reddit popular is dead, now to be driven by profit to a point that those in control of ~reddit~ have changed what reddit is. If what it is now was how it was started it wouldn't have become popular, you know?

It's changed to a point where for lots of people it has already died. And like any ultra popular website (Myspace, facebook, yahoo, etc) there is nothing magical about them having to exist, reddit doesn't have to exist and can just fade like the other previous popular places.

The decline has clearly started, it will coast on intertia for a long while but yeah, reddit is terminally damaged.

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Yeah well said. Its funny seeing the big picture. I'd bet all my stupid upvote points that the peeps at the top about to cash out already are eyeing up whatever the next thing is. Well, whatever will grow on the same substrate of the internet to fill the space.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Montague Tigg posted:

I read two books last week in the time that not looking at reddit freed up for me. I can't see myself going back at this point and SA has enough content to keep me entertained in small portions without scrolling through bot posts and cat pictures for hours. I know I'm part of a very small percentage but I'm glad this whole thing happened at least for my own mental health.

Yeah that’s how I feel about it. If like 3% leave and never go back to shitposting in mega communities that’s like enough for me to stay away and always have some people to shitpost with. I don’t actually want to talk with most of the people on Reddit and especially not the kind of people who seem sad to see it go. If it dies that’s great too though.

FlapYoJacks posted:

AOL keywords were an amazing concept and they were so far ahead of their time they failed.

Dude people seemed to use them a lot. AOL is what failed.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

What were AOL keywords?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Xun posted:

What were AOL keywords?

what if you typed something into a search box and it brought you to the exact item you asked for immediately? could you imagine that? cause nobody at google has held that thought in their heads for a least a decade.

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.
Sorry, i missed all the "all them newfangled social media places have branching threads"-chat earlier, i was busy reading decade old archives of an MWForum while also reading new and fresh comments on heise.de.
Branching threads are weird.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The r/pcgaming community is warming my heart, because the response to the "We had to reopen the subreddit because admins threatened to remove us" post from both sides of the issue has been to make fun of the mods

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Internet Old One posted:

Dude people seemed to use them a lot. AOL is what failed.

Yeah, I meant “they failed” as in “they failed to properly monetize them in a sustainable way.”

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

what if you typed something into a search box and it brought you to the exact item you asked for immediately? could you imagine that? cause nobody at google has held that thought in their heads for a least a decade.

Are you clueless? AOL keywords were nothing like that they were a bought and sold marketplace run by a massive tyrant rear end in a top hat who was corrupt as gently caress and used that to threaten business and livelyhood and made the internet for aol people worse and hurt their ability to choose.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I really think the only thing that could truly kill reddit is getting rid of the porn.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

shadow puppet of a posted:

Are you clueless? AOL keywords were nothing like that they were a bought and sold marketplace run by a massive tyrant rear end in a top hat who was corrupt as gently caress and used that to threaten business and livelyhood and made the internet for aol people worse and hurt their ability to choose.

lol ok bub

i would take AOL keywords over what google has evolved into any day of the week

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

lol ok bub

i would take AOL keywords over what google has evolved into any day of the week

I’m happy for you that you enjoyed a system designed to harm you and keep you ignorant. It worked wonders in the long term.

R.L. Stine
Oct 19, 2007

welcome to dead gay dog house
remember when you had to google "site:forums.somethingawful.com" to search the forums lol. maybe you still do idk

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

shadow puppet of a posted:

I’m happy for you that you enjoyed a system designed to harm you and keep you ignorant. It worked wonders in the long term.

i was actually more of a prodigy man myself

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

shadow puppet of a posted:

Are you clueless? AOL keywords were nothing like that they were a bought and sold marketplace run by a massive tyrant rear end in a top hat who was corrupt as gently caress and used that to threaten business and livelyhood and made the internet for aol people worse and hurt their ability to choose.

hell, i'll take it

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
I didn’t know my aol keyword joke was so contentious

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

teen witch posted:

I didn’t know my aol keyword joke was so contentious

AOL Keyword:FLAME

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

teen witch posted:

I didn’t know my aol keyword joke was so contentious

a kid once typed "pbs kids" into the aol search bar and it brought him to pbs kids and that kid then grew up to be jordan peterson

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

teen witch posted:

I didn’t know my aol keyword joke was so contentious

Most of us are elder millennials. Nostalgia will always bring up discussion. Much like my 486DX with a math coprocessor and an overclock chip to bring it up to 133Mhz so I could play StarCraft 1 from the big box (remember when PC games came in a big box?)

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Grassy Knowles posted:

AOL Keyword:FLAME

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

FlapYoJacks posted:

AOL keywords were an amazing concept and they were so far ahead of their time they failed.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

what if you typed something into a search box and it brought you to the exact item you asked for immediately? could you imagine that? cause nobody at google has held that thought in their heads for a least a decade.

Remember this is mid-late 1990s and people had no idea there was this whole other internet outside of the AOL app. Most people only had an AOL connection so even if they fired up IE they would have only gotten errors.


Google wasn't around and SEO was barely a thing, so you would watch the Today Show and they'd tell me to go to AOL Keyword: ACME and it was easier than trying to get people to type in [url]HTTP://[/url] or do go look at the Internet Yellow pages at the library

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

AOL Keywords are still in use but these days they're QR Codes instead

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

deep dish peat moss posted:

AOL Keywords are still in use but these days they're QR Codes instead

How the gently caress dare you be correct

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

to view our menu please enter AOL keyword "theporkandbarrel"

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
The most reddit man I ever met was at a meetup for remote CS students. He had avatar the last airbender (4 element symbols) tattoos on his arms and referred to his dog as a "heckin doggo". He had a penchant for believing he was the smartest or most clever person in a room, which he was neither. The first time I met him he was bragging how he was double dipping on his GI bill because he used it for Phoenix University, but they screwed up the accounting and never actually charged him, so he was using it again for our program.

He ended up getting suspended from the university program because eventually Phoenix University did charge him, and he was suddenly on the hook for thousands of dollars he didn't have and blamed the schools for it. He had a meltdown on the remote student slack and got blocked.

teen witch posted:

that r/sandiego Reddit admin story is wild as hell. Who is this Arizona man, and why? Why this with his life? What is the end goal?

His name is SD_TMI. He apparently founded or was an early mod of r/SanDiego. But due to whatever reason, around FIVE+ years ago he moved out of state to Tempe, AZ. Instead of doing what normal people would do, like fade off into the distance, he has clung to power. He still actively manages the subreddit too. The gripes against him are often very valid. He bans bans any sports talk. Last year the SD Padres did really well. The Padres are historically the worst team in MLB, so it was a big deal. He would remove any discussion of the team. He also removes anything he deems "promoting business"; which includes foodies informing folks of new restaurants opening up. So the subreddit is basically just sunset pictures and people mad at their energy bills.

Why does he do it? Nobody really knows. He bans and blocks anyone who asks him those personal questions, hence the people on r/SanDiegan talking about him so much.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




it’s time for these reddit protesters to take to the streets

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

FlapYoJacks posted:

(remember when PC games came in a big box?)

I remember the oregon trail third edition box having straw in it

meat police
Nov 14, 2015

Google has turned to dogshit as well. It'll either go straight to reddit or just have a few pages of AI-generated SEO junk.

I'm cumming to SA for the real answers

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.
r/interestingasfuck is now protesting by allowing nsfw content that has been getting to the top of all.

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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Kuros posted:

r/interestingasfuck is now protesting by allowing nsfw content that has been getting to the top of all.

Finally actually living up to it's name

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