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Badly Jester posted:After Wolftime, the only possible trajectory was up. Way to jinx it you fool
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Badly Jester posted:After Wolftime, the only possible trajectory was up. But one of the books after Wolftime was written by Nick Kyme. 
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The Iron Kingdom wasn't good, but it wasn't the worst 40K novel I've ever read (which Wolftime certainly was). Horrible writing aside, as someone who has a Space Wolves army and really enjoys SW books when done well (i.e. vikings in space as written by Abnett and Wraight), I took that poo poo way too personal.
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I just want to excise the part of my brain that holds memories of Wolftime. Spacewolves reduced to such a state of petulant manchildreness that Guilliman himself has to kneel in front of them just so he can get these Primaris dropped off and gtfo of there. Ughhhh, just the worst.
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Jun 19, 2023 19:17
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Let's move the timeline forward but how about we use all the worst writers that are only ever read by the people who read 100 Warhammer books a year for some reason.
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wolftime sounds like a twitter user from the favstar era
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Let's move the timeline forward but how about we use all the worst writers that are only ever read by the people who read 100 Warhammer books a year for some reason. I've been called out. Wolf time was dogshit though
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Cooked Auto posted:On the Warhammer Crime front, we have The King of the Spoil by Jonathan D. Beer. Available for pre-order in the usual first run formats. Is this finally my Warhams cyberpunk I won't shut the gently caress up about?!
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Inspector_666 posted:Is this finally my Warhams cyberpunk I won't shut the gently caress up about?! The Crime series has had enough hackers surfing the noosphere already, there's certainly support for a full-up cyber novel.
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Crime is such a fun series, love it
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The horror series is rarely much more horrific than regular warhams but it can be very (stupid) fun
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The horror series should just exclusively be Peter Fehervari books, he is the only one I've read that has put anything out I would actually call horror.
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DaysBefore posted:Crime is such a fun series, love it I really enjoy crime too, though I want some sequels to start coming out already. Would love a new Zidarov or Noctis&Lux novel. Hopefully sales support such a thing.
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Judging by number and pace of releases I think crime has done pretty well and horror not so much. Crime came out of the gate with some really strong books and horror just hasn't been very good except for a few short stories.
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I slammed through the crime books. Haven't really had a chance to get the horror books. Plus the fact that the setting is already kind of horror I dunno if grimdark + horror hits different enough notes to make an interesting combo to me.
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It doesn't help that most of the best books of the horror line are a) fantasy, b) released a million years ago, or c) both. Dark Harvest is probably my favorite of the line that isn't re-releases of old classics (see: all the Kim Newman books). If forced to choose a 40k one, I'd probably say House of Night and Chain but none are really that great. The real answer to 'Best 40k Horror' novel is, of course, Reverie* which blows everything else out of the water. It seems like they're trying to retcon Reverie into the Warhammer Horror line to some extent these days?The cover says its a 'warhammer 40k horror' novel but its not actually listed as such on the website. I don't remember if that tagline on the cover was there when it first came out though to be honest. Might have been the book to inspire the line. * Requiem Infernal is a very close second for me I have a hard time choosing between them. orphean fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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I think someone recommended a book called Into The Black. It's a generic as gently caress military space opera book, which makes it perfect bedtime reading. However I was thinking about the premise and it makes no sense (in a glorious fashion). We have just had WW3 and the reaction from the winning(?) side is to build an interplanetary warship and they DON'T instantly turn it on their enemies.
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orphean posted:It doesn't help that most of the best books of the horror line are a) fantasy, b) released a million years ago, or c) both. Dark Harvest is probably my favorite of the line that isn't re-releases of old classics (see: all the Kim Newman books). If forced to choose a 40k one, I'd probably say House of Night and Chain but none are really that great. The Reverie was released as part of the Horror line to begin with. Requiem Infernal predated the Horror line.
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This discussion reminded me that I hadn't picked up The Reverie. I read Requiem Infernal earlier this year and loved it so I'm excited to read it.
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Peter Fehervari is up there with Abnett, Wraight and ADB, imho
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Improbable Lobster posted:The Reverie was released as part of the Horror line to begin with. Requiem Infernal predated the Horror line. https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-horror?showall=1 They don't even it include it as part of the horror subline on the website hence my confusion. 
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John Banks' Jaghatai voice is fuckin weird man
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Are Requiem Infernal and The Reverie recommended reading as a duo? Any other books/short stories to go with? Read a description and they sound enticing. Although I had a good laugh at the name "Asenath Hyades." Thank you, 40k. Subtlety is forbidden.
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Mazed posted:Are Requiem Infernal and The Reverie recommended reading as a duo? Any other books/short stories to go with? Read a description and they sound enticing. All of Peter Fehervari's books and short stories are loosely connected and benefit from reading the other ones. I would also recommend reading Fire Caste and Cult of the Spiral Dawn alongside them, but all of them stand alone fairly well
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I've read quite alot of ham books and recently found Fehervari's univerise in Warhammer and its excellent. I used this as reference while reading them and it really helped. they're all fantastic https://www.trackofwords.com/2020/10/31/a-travellers-guide-to-the-dark-coil/
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Deciding between finishing Vaults of Terra or starting Fabius Bile with my audible credit and even though it's obviously nice to finishing out a trilogy, I truly can't decide.
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Good call.Improbable Lobster posted:All of Peter Fehervari's books and short stories are loosely connected and benefit from reading the other ones. I would also recommend reading Fire Caste and Cult of the Spiral Dawn alongside them, but all of them stand alone fairly well Waroduce posted:I've read quite alot of ham books and recently found Fehervari's univerise in Warhammer and its excellent. I used this as reference while reading them and it really helped. they're all fantastic Thanks for this, now I have a new reading list since I wrapped up the traitor half of the HH Primarchs series and Wraight's Watchers of the Throne duology, which by the way was fantastic -- it's almost completely disconnected from Vaults of Terra but makes an excellent companion piece, and the way it's written, weaving three first-person perspectives through the same sequence of events, is brilliantly fun. I'm gonna tackle Fehervari's stories in the chronological order listed on that linked page. Already read "Nightbleed", which was low key but well-crafted.
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Mazed posted:Are Requiem Infernal and The Reverie recommended reading as a duo? Any other books/short stories to go with? Read a description and they sound enticing. Subtle enough for my simple mind, i guess. What's the reference?
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Found myself re-reading The End and Death again and man. Abnett just has done an incredible job. Malcador's ascension is just a total emotional gutpunch not often found in 40k genre shooty kill fiction. It really just hammers emphatically home how much of a tragedy this really was for humanity and the fact it might just be threading the needle to avert a even larger tragedy with the whole Dark King business just has me waiting on such tenterhooks I'm forced to use that silly word. It's seriously one of those books I just want to blather on about to friends but where would you even begin? It's like a love letter to all the people who, over the years, have filled their heads with all the necessary context needed for it to work as well as it does.
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I'm reading "The Reverie" now and I dunno if my brain is broken but, on top of the suspense, I'm finding something darkly comical about this whole thing. Which may be the point, because horror and humor are equally fed by the absurd. It's like a spookier but slightly less horny "Fulgrim" with much better prose. I like this passage that describes a daemon: "The prisoner had taken many forms over the years, some pitiful, others hideous and a few incomprehensible, but it was the one he loathed seeing above all others. Now it simply pretended to to be itself." Pretended to to be itself. Also the character names are loving bonkers. Duzzy Funlop posted:Subtle enough for my simple mind, i guess. What's the reference? Cthulhu Mythos. Asenath Waite is a character in Lovecraft's "The Thing on the Doorstep", and the Hyades are a star cluster associated with the Great Old One Hastur. (I dunno if these actually connect to plot points/spoilers for the book, since I ain't read it yet )
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Ohhhhh, Cthulhu v. A grey knight. That would be an interesting fanfic
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Greyknight simply speaks the eldritch horror's true name and enslaves it to their will. Bing bong.
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Mazed posted:I'm reading "The Reverie" now and I dunno if my brain is broken but, on top of the suspense, I'm finding something darkly comical about this whole thing. Which may be the point, because horror and humor are equally fed by the absurd. It's like a spookier but slightly less horny "Fulgrim" with much better prose. I like this passage that describes a daemon: "The prisoner had taken many forms over the years, some pitiful, others hideous and a few incomprehensible, but it was the one he loathed seeing above all others. Now it simply pretended to to be itself." There is a lot of dark comedy in his books. In Fire Caste, when the Guard regiment the story follows first arrive on the shithole swamp they're supposed to fight in, one character in heavy armour gets flung off a boat and instantly drowns, another guy trips and is immediately devoured by alien crabs, the most religious member of the regiment accidentally falls to Khorne and it's all very funny.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com...-for-blood-bowl You want new books? Of course you do! Only two Black Library pre-orders next weekend, and both are AoS related. First up, there's Children of Teclis by Evan Dicken. Available in the usual first release formats.  Second up, we have the paperback release of Grombrindal: Chronicles of the Wanderer by David Guymer.  There is also another book being teased for next week. Hopefully nothing Space Marine related. But for all I know it's the tie-in novel to Space Marine 2 written by Guy Haley.
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Reading through the new Leviathan book. Some minor spoilers here that honestly aren't really a big deal but I'll put them in tags to be nice. As with every book that comes out along with a big release it's main purpose is to introduce whatever the new thing is. Darius Hinks is an ok author and the book is very middle of the road. We do however get a new ultramarine character who is really cool and I hope we see more of: The new Tyranids are much more devious and scary and running circles around the ultramarines. I'm sure they'll pull it out by the end but not doing very well so far. Also we meet a new character in the Ultramarines I really like and I hope he gets his own series. He's an apothecary biologis instead of just a regular apothecary. He's basically Fabius Bile but an Ultramarine. He focuses on studying xenos and has a weird rear end laboratory and is not your typical Ultramarine at all and all the others view him with suspicion. He also has a best friend that he grew up with and they both became Ultramarines who is also very different from the normal UM. He's pretty cool and almost like a world eater without the nails or a death guard or something in temperament. I would really like to see a book series that just follows these two it's nice to get some Ultramarines that aren't boring
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