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Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.


I like Who Sees You and If I Am (tracks #3 & 5). New You (6) doesn't really sound like MBV, there's none of their trademark dissonance. Nothing Is (8) kinda reminds me of NIИ, like something from one of the remix albums.

It's also got a pretty quiet mix/mastering, similar to Loveless. I bought the Domino Records CD reissue import a couple years ago.

An interesting album, for sure.

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Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
Ride on tour in the US with Charlatans and playing in my city on Valentines Day is cool

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Bandcamp Friday was last week. It kinda snuck up on me and a project I've been following since, like, a year ago, finally released their LP, so I knew it was time for a new batch. However, my wishlist is such that I've forgotten what the things on it sound like, so I basically spent all day of the event listening to my wishlist and making a BUY NOW list. I literally ran out of time and checked out 2 hours before BCF was over; it was past midnight and I needed sleep. Pickups (Artist - Album):

All Under Heaven - Collider
Alvvays - Blue Rev (the weirdo of the bunch: pretty pop-y indie rock, although with a shoegaze twist, which is what interests me about this album)
Bellweather
Day Aches - Fever Dreams
Distressor - Momentary (the project I've been tracking since last year, I loved the singles but I usually don't buy singles)
Life On Venus - Encounters (my CC declined this one at first, maybe because the band is Russian?)
Pure Hex - Still Dark (this one was the best, I thought, of the handful of albums I filed under "maybe" as I listened to my wishlist before making purchases)
Ride - Going Blank Again (yes, Ride is on BC now!)
Slow Crush - Aurora
[trauma ray] (I listened to their whole discog and this one was the best)

And an honorable mention to a very cool album that I ended up genre-ing as Post-rock, but could go either way, really:
Holy Fawn - Death Spells

Having finally listened to everything and done all the clerical work associated with updating a digital library (this took a few days), I'd say the standouts so far:

Bellweather (incredibly gnarly fuzz/distortion with gorgeous vocal harmonies)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pisPd5yzCd8

Distressor (worth the wait, it is great, although they gave Bandcamp lower-quality FLACs, booooo)
I don't have enough listens under my belt yet to decide on a good example to link, but this was one of the lead-in singles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKoN1gh2T8

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Ofecks posted:

Ride - Going Blank Again (yes, Ride is on BC now!)
I bought the vinyl reissue: https://www.thebandride.com

Saw them live recently (third time!) with Charlatans and they still blew us away.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Leave Them All Behind was one of the ones i would listen to driving around at night with the stereo going full blast. probably one reason i have hearing problems these days. that and One More by Medicine.

Thanks for posting newish bands to listen to. i find i have less and less patience finding new things as my brain gradually turns to dust. when i was a kiddo i could sit there for hours listening to random mp3s to find the good new poo poo.

since i just found this might as well post it. guy demonstrating why the bass in Pearly Dewdrops Drops is so fuckin cool. Robin Guthrie shows up in the comments to gently correct some of his misapprehensions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjnBEMWkTYg

uber_stoat fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Mar 12, 2023

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
Didn’t realize Black Angels released an album last year

Holy poo poo this is a great song

https://youtu.be/wMeLWIrtznA

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005
In the spirit of those dense, driving album openers from Nowhere, Going Blank Again, Raise, etc

I think my favourite Airiel song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiqezbc0W8Q

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

ROFLBOT posted:

In the spirit of those dense, driving album openers from Nowhere, Going Blank Again, Raise, etc

I think my favourite Airiel song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiqezbc0W8Q

Yeah that's a great tune. Incredible bass slides. Airiel's always had really cool vocal harmonies. Shoutout to Larry Fine on drums :v:

I also like "Inside Out" and "You Sweet Talker" on that same album. The latter starts off as a bog-standard, major-key pop ballad, but the chorus quickly turns it on its head.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

ROFLBOT posted:

In the spirit of those dense, driving album openers from Nowhere, Going Blank Again, Raise, etc

I think my favourite Airiel song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiqezbc0W8Q

The Slowdive-meets-Teenage-Wrist vibe here is monumental. Thanks for sharing!

Jeherrin fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Apr 3, 2023

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
went to their bandcamp and that record was already on my wishlist. i need to start working my way through that thing.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Ofecks posted:


Bellweather (incredibly gnarly fuzz/distortion with gorgeous vocal harmonies)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pisPd5yzCd8


I like this one quite a bit

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

New album from The Clientele coming in July. First track dropped today, and it is very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-YpCcy05OA

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Ofecks posted:

Distressor (worth the wait, it is great, although they gave Bandcamp lower-quality FLACs, booooo)
I don't have enough listens under my belt yet to decide on a good example to link, but this was one of the lead-in singles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKoN1gh2T8

Okay, so having listenened to this album several times now, I have regretfully discovered that I hate the mix job. The rhythm guitar is hard-panned left, and the lead is hard-panned right. One in each ear, since I only listen with headphones. Why would they choose to do it this way? I love everything else about the songs, but the mix loving ruined it. I'm surprised I didn't catch this when I listened to the singles on Bandcamp, or my first listen of the album proper. Maybe it would sound better in a bluetooth speaker or something. Like, I know this sort of thing is pretty common in all kinds of rock music, to simulate a "live" feel of the band members on a stage or whatever, but this album takes it to an extreme, as if the amps are 100 ft or more away from each other. I've been to a few shows and live music does not sound like that. At least the bass, drums, and vocals are dead-center. It's just woefully disconnecting and my brain has trouble parsing it all out. I learned recently that I'm on the Autism Spectrum, maybe that's part of it.

The Trauma Ray EP I bought does something similar, but it doesn't seem quite as bad.

I'm tempted to load the album in Audacity to just squish all the tracks into some kind of double-mono output. It would destroy any other stereo effects present but I think I'd enjoy it like that. I just have little tolerance for instruments confined to a single ear.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
I’ve had Margaritas Podridas on shuffle in my car for the last two weeks.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/mexican-alt-rock-scene-mengers-margaritas-podridas-1234687626/

chaibat
Aug 21, 2008

Ofecks posted:

Okay, so having listenened to this album several times now, I have regretfully discovered that I hate the mix job. The rhythm guitar is hard-panned left, and the lead is hard-panned right. One in each ear, since I only listen with headphones. Why would they choose to do it this way? I love everything else about the songs, but the mix loving ruined it. I'm surprised I didn't catch this when I listened to the singles on Bandcamp, or my first listen of the album proper. Maybe it would sound better in a bluetooth speaker or something. Like, I know this sort of thing is pretty common in all kinds of rock music, to simulate a "live" feel of the band members on a stage or whatever, but this album takes it to an extreme, as if the amps are 100 ft or more away from each other. I've been to a few shows and live music does not sound like that. At least the bass, drums, and vocals are dead-center. It's just woefully disconnecting and my brain has trouble parsing it all out. I learned recently that I'm on the Autism Spectrum, maybe that's part of it.

The Trauma Ray EP I bought does something similar, but it doesn't seem quite as bad.

I'm tempted to load the album in Audacity to just squish all the tracks into some kind of double-mono output. It would destroy any other stereo effects present but I think I'd enjoy it like that. I just have little tolerance for instruments confined to a single ear.

Kind of a weird question: Like 15 years ago, I suddenly lost the hearing completely in one ear (acoustic neuroma tumor). One thing I really miss is stereo sound. I use mono audio to at least hear both channels with one ear. So my question, what does mono sound like in headphones with 2 good ears? Is it somehow flatter or just less satisfying overall?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPIBqs97hH0

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

chaibat posted:

So my question, what does mono sound like in headphones with 2 good ears? Is it somehow flatter or just less satisfying overall?

I don't think it's flat, per se. Aside from a few minor tidbits here and there (like the bridge in Breed by Nirvana), wild stereo effects weren't very common in alternative music up through the 90s. So you wouldn't miss much with mono in each ear. In other words, I think most of the stuff I listen to would still sound pretty "normal" that way.

Also, I primarily play retro video games, and NES/Famicom does not output stereo audio. On my PC via software emulation, with headphones, it sounds perfectly fine with the sound doubled to each ear.

If I do end up undertaking the task of mono-izing Distressor's album, I'll try to remember to respond here to report the difference. I don't feel like messing with it at the moment.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005
Whats with people thinking the Deftones are Shoegaze?

I mean i dont want to get all gatekeepery but come on :rolleyes:

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib
The Deftones are clearly a roguelike

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

ROFLBOT posted:

Whats with people thinking the Deftones are Shoegaze?

I mean i dont want to get all gatekeepery but come on :rolleyes:
They're not a straight up shoegaze band and a lot of their stuff doesn't sound shoegazey at all but some of their songs definitely have shoegaze elements. Hell, Minerva was a big radio single for them 20 years ago and my first exposure to them and that song has shoegaze vibes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLa0-sQg1YM

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

yeah Deftones aren't shoegaze but i'd say it's fair to call them shoegaze-adjacent. i'd say a lot of modern shoegazey stuff is clearly pulling from them (that Fleshwater lp comes to mind)

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

In a move I didn't see coming, the new Foo Fighters single sounds shoegaze/dream pop influenced. Dave Grohl duets with his daughter Violet and the results are fantastic. I wish they'd do this kind of thing more often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idib1kDvPyM

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

New album from The Telescopes is out. Less dreamy, more noisy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFGIONtHeSY

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Rageaholic posted:

In a move I didn't see coming, the new Foo Fighters single sounds shoegaze/dream pop influenced. Dave Grohl duets with his daughter Violet and the results are fantastic. I wish they'd do this kind of thing more often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idib1kDvPyM

Never in 20+ years did I imagine I'd give half a poo poo about Dave Grohl again. Also the vocals give me SPC ECO vibes... (even though Dean doesn't sing with his daughter...)

But I'm coming back to this and it's pretty drat lovely.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Rageaholic posted:

In a move I didn't see coming, the new Foo Fighters single sounds shoegaze/dream pop influenced. Dave Grohl duets with his daughter Violet and the results are fantastic. I wish they'd do this kind of thing more often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idib1kDvPyM

Cool. I guess there's a new album out soon. Has anyone heard it in its entirety yet? I wonder if the rest of it sounds like this.

You know, I think one of the reasons why I like FF's ST debut so much is because it has ever-so-slight hints of shoegaze throughout. Especially on tracks like Floaty, X-Static, Exhausted, and maybe Alone + Easy Target. Even on the more raging, upbeat songs, the guitar sound is really good, although I'm still not sure what to make of Big Me, that one is quite the oddball. Anyway, I like maybe half the tracks from the follow-up (tCatS) but nothing else from them since then. And yes, I've listened to Wasting Light. I recall it was hyped up as a "return to the early days" but I disagreed and did not find it pleasing to my ears.

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005

Rageaholic posted:

They're not a straight up shoegaze band and a lot of their stuff doesn't sound shoegazey at all but some of their songs definitely have shoegaze elements. Hell, Minerva was a big radio single for them 20 years ago and my first exposure to them and that song has shoegaze vibes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLa0-sQg1YM

Not hearing it. Tenuous at best

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
yeah but it's really cool when chino hits that flat note over the melody

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

New cut from the upcoming Clientele album. Very much different from their usual dreampop style - reminds me a lot of Within You Without You from Sgt Pepper's, actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrG7DghQby8

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2Btw4qrQo

D-Tron
Jul 3, 2007

1999 was a hard time
to be a scrub

Yam Slacker
V glad to find out about new Drab Majesty from this post. Also loving the guest appearance, apparently Slowdive lp5 is now finished whatever that means? I assume writing not recording.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Pretty sure they said recently they were done recording

RestingB1tchFace
Jul 4, 2016

Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one....but mines the best!!!

ROFLBOT posted:

Whats with people thinking the Deftones are Shoegaze?

I mean i dont want to get all gatekeepery but come on :rolleyes:

Definitely NOT shoegaze. But there's some heavy shoegaze elements in their music.....so it's not outlandish.

What would you guys consider Teenage Wrist?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwveCYTgVnA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra2RZ_gBYdU

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

RestingB1tchFace posted:

What would you guys consider Teenage Wrist?

Alt Rock. Maybe "90's-style Alt Rock"? I really hate using the term "grunge" for anything except actual stuff from that period. "Post-grunge" maybe? I dunno, really.

Teenage Wrist's earlier stuff (up through Chrome Neon Jesus) has some slight shoegazey tinges to it, but once Kamtin left the band, they went more straight-forward. There isn't much from Earth Is A Black Hole that catches my ear and thus, I'm not interested in the forthcoming follow-up, based on what I've heard so far (it's more of the same).

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtoDyaILmqR/

New Slowdive music coming on Tuesday :sickos:

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Rageaholic posted:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtoDyaILmqR/

New Slowdive music coming on Tuesday :sickos:

i'm all tingly.

Eight Is Legend
Jan 2, 2008

Ofecks posted:

Alt Rock. Maybe "90's-style Alt Rock"? I really hate using the term "grunge" for anything except actual stuff from that period. "Post-grunge" maybe? I dunno, really.

Teenage Wrist's earlier stuff (up through Chrome Neon Jesus) has some slight shoegazey tinges to it, but once Kamtin left the band, they went more straight-forward. There isn't much from Earth Is A Black Hole that catches my ear and thus, I'm not interested in the forthcoming follow-up, based on what I've heard so far (it's more of the same).

Well, if you miss the Kamtin era of the band, you will probably dig his new project Heavenward — debut album came out Friday!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evp70dkaE0M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OJQpHXOSrw

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Eight Is Legend posted:

Well, if you miss the Kamtin era of the band, you will probably dig his new project Heavenward — debut album came out Friday!

I dig it indeed. Wishlisted! Thanks for the links.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Slowdive tour announced and the new album is available for preorder.


September 23: Toronto, ON – Queen Elizabeth Theatre

September 25: Boston, MA – Citizens House of Blues Boston

September 27: NYC, NY – Webster Hall

September 28: NYC, NY – Webster Hall

September 29: Philadelphia, PA – Union Transfer

September 30: Washington, DC – 9:30 Club

October 2: Cleveland, OH – The Roxy @ Mahall’s

October 3: Chicago, IL – Riviera Theatre

October 4: St. Paul, MN – Palace Theatre

October 6: Denver, CO – Cervantes’ Masterpiece Ballroom

October 7: Salt Lake City, UT – The Union

October 9: Portland, OR – Crystal Ballroom

October 10: Seattle, WA – Showbox SoDo

October 12: San Francisco, CA – The Warfield

October 14: Los Angeles, CA – The Bellwether

Oct 30 – Glasgow, UK – QMU

Oct 31 – Manchester, UK – 02 Ritz

Nov 1 – Bristol, UK – SWX

Nov 3 – London, UK – The Troxy

Nov 5 – Belfast, UK – Mandela Hall

Nov 6 – Dublin, Eire – National Stadium

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

New single too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9RpHfPyEx8

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

I have to feel for Slowdive, the QMU in Glasgow is one of the worst venues I've ever been to. I saw Weyes Blood there on the last tour and they very nearly managed to make Natalie Mering sound bad.

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