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15 | 3.71% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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It would be insane if the ultimate result of the counter-offensive is that, in desperate need of some good news PR, they start feeding their trained troops & equipment back into Bakhmut But this time from the position of offense, into a fortified city
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Jun 21, 2023 06:40
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Russia - Last night alone, more than 30 Shaheds were shot down, and now Ukraine's warriors in the south and in the east are very actively destroying the enemy, physically clearing Ukraine. I intercepted those shaheds with my face, making me the victor.
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Jun 21, 2023 06:50
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RadiRoot posted:biden announcing sanctions on sa very soon. kinda harsh that jeffrey will wake up some day and find that his assets have been frozen all of a sudden
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Jun 21, 2023 06:54
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RadiRoot posted:biden announcing sanctions on sa very soon. Only if the factional conflict gets really out of hand.
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Jun 21, 2023 06:59
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Cerebral Bore posted:kinda harsh that jeffrey will wake up some day and find that his assets have been frozen all of a sudden jeffrey still exists?
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Jun 21, 2023 07:03
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RadiRoot posted:jeffrey still exists? the cspam feedback thread managed to summon him once by accident
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Jun 21, 2023 07:04
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:The MIC industry PowerPoints is all about how their incredibly expensive things are cost-saving. Everyone in the MIC knows they are not, but when you put "this is better AND way cheaper than what you have now" in front of a government official that you haven't bribed, they will find it very hard to go to their boss and argue not to do something the MIC promises is cheaper. Remembering things is forbidden
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Jun 21, 2023 07:15
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HiroProtagonist posted:Remembering things is forbidden There is no history book that cannot be rewritten.
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Jun 21, 2023 07:25
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Nix Panicus posted:https://twitter.com/onlydjole/status/1670167256217550852?s=20 I saw this idea being floated around when this happened - along with this also being the reason a large amount of russian forces just kinda sat around doing nothing for a while. Is there any evidence for it other than circumstantial/this letter that Putin is waving around? It does seem the sort of thing the west would do/be behind, but it also seems like it could just be the Russians making excuses.
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Jun 21, 2023 07:28
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Neurolimal posted:It would be insane if the ultimate result of the counter-offensive is that, in desperate need of some good news PR, they start feeding their trained troops & equipment back into Bakhmut well I think re-capturing Bakhmut would come with it's own set of challenges, maybe it's a good idea if the area around Bakhmut (to the west and the north) hasn't been incorporated into the Russian defensive line? At the very least they haven't had the opportunity to prepare the ground to the same extent as what exists in the south of the country if for no other reason that the ground has constantly been under threat from the presence of Ukrainian artillery. I'm sure they could lay some mines and create some trenches but I think it would likely be less formidable than the stuff they spent 6 months preparing 10k behind the front line. Starsfan has issued a correction as of 07:49 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Jun 21, 2023 07:43
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Officer Sandvich posted:And unlike the passive Russian populace 
16-bit Butt-Head has issued a correction as of 08:48 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Jun 21, 2023 07:49
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RadiRoot posted:jeffrey still exists? jeffrey is real and he works for the russian government i saw him kissing putin once
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Jun 21, 2023 07:50
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fatelvis posted:I saw this idea being floated around when this happened - along with this also being the reason a large amount of russian forces just kinda sat around doing nothing for a while. One point in the story's favor is that its literally the same playbook Russia ran in Georgia in 2008 under very similar circumstances, but I don't think we've seen any internal memos saying 'Don't bother gassing up the tanks, this is just a decapitation feint to get them to the negotiating table'.
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Jun 21, 2023 07:52
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Jun 21, 2023 07:56
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Majorian posted:Field Marshal Mayor Pete will lead Ukraine to victory. Now that he's promoted, he surely won't surrender, despite the encirclement. No US Field Marshal has ever surrendered.
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Jun 21, 2023 08:03
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fatelvis posted:I saw this idea being floated around when this happened - along with this also being the reason a large amount of russian forces just kinda sat around doing nothing for a while. its probably a lil of A a lil of B. clearly the russian army is there for pressure in negotiations, but also russia never actually bottled up kyiv. so it sounds good to say we pulled back in good faith instead of it was a failure and the draft treaty would never happened because they didn't have the leverage to actually force the deal. The west clearly was invested in continuing the conflict ofc. BOJO. It's largely useful rhetorically for showing russian wasn't invested in going insane murder orc genocide on ukraine or whatever bullshit was the propganda of the day back then.
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Jun 21, 2023 08:03
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all the numerous UA threads, it all really depends on how much you value sovereignty, nationalist ideas, democracy etc. to a cspammer the idea that Ukraine is a sovereign country is a clear joke, their national identity is a joke/slapdash construction (and is a joke to everybody truly outside of surface level confirmations. its evidenced on both sides of the conflict with russia being like wtf your more russian then anything / as NATO countries pat UA on the back say your truly european, give them weapons, and say by the way we're not letting you into our house) and democracy aspect... cmon. so this deal while humilating in a national aspect makes clear sense in not sending a fuckton of ppl into the mulcher.
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Jun 21, 2023 08:10
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gradenko_2000 posted:"rationalization" is one of those euphemisms whose real meaning is impossible to unlearn once you start seeing it everywhere It's a great word because people assume it has to do with rationality (popular) but actually it has to do with rationing (not popular).
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Jun 21, 2023 08:28
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Homeless Friend posted:all the numerous UA threads, it all really depends on how much you value sovereignty, nationalist ideas, democracy etc. to a cspammer the idea that Ukraine is a sovereign country is a clear joke, their national identity is a joke/slapdash construction (and is a joke to everybody truly outside of surface level confirmations. its evidenced on both sides of the conflict with russia being like wtf your more russian then anything / as NATO countries pat UA on the back say your truly european, give them weapons, and say by the way we're not letting you into our house) and democracy aspect... cmon. so this deal while humilating in a national aspect makes clear sense in not sending a fuckton of ppl into the mulcher. the sort of fuzzy ideas about sovereignty involved here are also highly interesting - it appears that sovereignty is a value simultaneously worth sacrificing hundreds of thousands of lives for with limited hope of success and a silly luxury which is unaffordable in a cruel world. the whole discussion around ukraine is sort of pretend-principled and uses its righteousness to disguise what's actually going on, which is a substantive expression of geopolitical preference. it's a loving nightmare from which there seems to be no escape - the entire press outside of, like, the New Left Review is captured by this in one way or the other.
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Jun 21, 2023 08:33
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Neurolimal posted:It would be insane if the ultimate result of the counter-offensive is that, in desperate need of some good news PR, they start feeding their trained troops & equipment back into Bakhmut bakhmut II? lets do it
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Jun 21, 2023 08:36
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generally, people in western societies are terrified of engaging in substantive reasoning and much prefer to think formally. it was not always thus, but i suspect that the ever-increasing tendency towards intellectual rationalisation (in the sense that orange devil describes above) has something to do with this - liberalism is eroding our capacity to think explicitly in terms of preference and interest in favour of an ever-increasing emphasis on analytical categories even when those categories make no coherent sense.
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Jun 21, 2023 08:37
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another banger from Gunther Fuhrerhitler https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1671398046880415744
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Jun 21, 2023 08:46
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wait he's saying america is holding ukraine back? lmao how
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Jun 21, 2023 08:50
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How does that guy form a coherent vision of reality in his mind, I cannot fathom it at all
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Jun 21, 2023 08:56
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Jun 21, 2023 08:57
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yellowcar posted:wait he's saying america is holding ukraine back? You hear indistinct mumbling. Listening closer you can just make out the words "manoeuvre warfare".
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Jun 21, 2023 08:57
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Slavvy posted:How does that guy form a coherent vision of reality in his mind, I cannot fathom it at all why go through the trouble of doing that? just vibe. if you're feeling unsure, post a selfie and get affirmation
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Jun 21, 2023 08:59
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yellowcar posted:wait he's saying america is holding ukraine back? like the time in vietnam
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Jun 21, 2023 09:01
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Great news for Ukraine - The Pentagon has the budget to send an extra USD 6,000,000.000 (United States Dollars Six Billion) in arms to the Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/21/extra-6bn-in-us-arms-for-ukraine-after-accounting-error Extra $6bn in US arms for Ukraine after ‘accounting error’ Wed 21 Jun 2023 01.41 BST The Pentagon says it has overestimated the value of the weapons it has sent to Ukraine by $6.2bn – about double early estimates – resulting in a surplus that will be used for future security packages. A detailed review of the accounting error found that the replacement cost was used rather than the book value of equipment that was pulled from stocks, said Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh. The Pentagon previously made a similar announcement, in May, that it had overestimated the value of the ammunition, missiles and other equipment by about $3bn, and the figure could grow with further investigation. On Tuesday, Singh said final calculations showed there was an error of $3.6bn in the current fiscal year and $2.6bn in the 2022 fiscal year, which ended on 30 September. As a result, the department has additional money to use to support Ukraine as it pursues its counteroffensive against Russia. It come as the fiscal year is wrapping up and congressional funding was beginning to dwindle. “It’s just going to go back into the pot of money that we have allocated for the future Pentagon stock drawdowns,” said Singh. The Pentagon has repeatedly used presidential drawdown authority to pull weapons, ammunition and other equipment off the shelves, so that it can get to Ukraine far more quickly than going through a purchase process. Based on previous estimates announced on 13 June, the US had committed more than $40bn in security assistance to Ukraine since Russia invaded. Using the new calculation, the US has actually provided less than $34bn in aid. ... Members of Congress have repeatedly pressed defence department leaders on how closely the US is tracking its aid to Ukraine to ensure that it is not subject to fraud or ending up in the wrong hands. The Pentagon has said it has a “robust programme” to track the aid as it crosses the border into Ukraine and to keep tabs on it once it is there, depending on the sensitivity of each weapons system.
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Jun 21, 2023 09:02
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how do you make "the decisive encirclement" if you cannot penetrate the "indefensible" lines? i guess all western military thinking truly was irreparably poisoned by Nazis after WW2
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Jun 21, 2023 09:06
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US, 2022 - We're keeping track of all the stuff we send Ukraine. Not one bit is going where it is not supposed to. US, 2023 - We couldn't even keep our books straight and yeah, I'm thinkin' I got 6 billion more dollars.
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Jun 21, 2023 09:06
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drat, the russians must be real good if they can hold a completely indefensible position this easily also i like that the stab-in-the-back myth is being constructed right before our eyes, gonna be p funny to see what the end result will be
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Jun 21, 2023 09:07
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We must unleash Chiang Kai-zelensky
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Jun 21, 2023 09:09
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Cerebral Bore posted:drat, the russians must be real good if they can hold a completely indefensible position this easily another decade of security and defence spending rubber stamped by congress
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Jun 21, 2023 09:11
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FallenGod posted:how do you make "the decisive encirclement" if you cannot penetrate the "indefensible" lines? The ultimate western tank will have a 200mm recoilless railgun that costs 10 million per shot, 2mm thick aluminium armor that dents when you lean on it, requires the entire crew wear AR goggles 100% of the time or it automatically shuts down due to a software license violation and is entirely solar powered. All that matters is speed and manoeuvre. Blitzkrieg! Gotta go fast! This message bought to you by Rhinemetal, Apple, HP and Tesla.
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Jun 21, 2023 09:15
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DancingShade posted:The ultimate western tank will have a 200mm recoilless railgun that costs 10 million per shot, 2mm thick aluminium armor that dents when you lean on it, requires the entire crew wear AR goggles 100% of the time or it automatically shuts down due to a software license violation and is entirely solar powered. each crew member must log in with their personal account to receive personalised combat recommendations
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Jun 21, 2023 09:18
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Jun 21, 2023 09:19
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tazjin posted:each crew member must log in with their personal account to receive personalised combat recommendations And each account requires a seperate subscription service and an always online connection.
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Jun 21, 2023 09:20
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Endman posted:another decade of security and defence spending rubber stamped by congress you don't need no myth to get that outcome, though
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Jun 21, 2023 09:21
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wagner is reportedly recruiting tankers and in coordination with gaijin is giving sign up bonuses in silver lions
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