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Civilized Fishbot posted:I wonder if the Diocese has any grounds to sue the fake priest over infringement of trademark. A trademark violation would require some kind of specific design or IP being copied. If they could somehow prove that the imposter damaged the Church's reputation and could quantify the amount (such as someone stopping donations or doing business with the church because they believed the priest was really affiliated with the church), then they could sue him for civil damages.
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Judgy Fucker posted:No, I encountered many parents who when I called them for any reason, positive or negative, made it clear in explicit terms I was bothering them and wasting their time. Also anecdotal but there is definitely a strain of parent who think public school is a service they're buying and therefore any teaching or involvement expected of them is reacted to in a way that is similar to how I would react if a restaurant suddenly asked me to chip in with cooking my meal. I don't think it's intentional and they get there when things are explained to them but a lot of my family are teachers and I've heard so many stories about people getting pretty much offended because it was expected for them to be involved in their kids school. And this cut across economic lines, poor schools and rich schools. Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Velocity Raptor posted:This was a really interesting article. I had no idea that they started changing how reading was being taught. I guess phonics is no longer a thing? Phonics is definitely a thing. There's just a big battle on what method to teach. Seriously listen to Sold A Story - it's only 6 eps! https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/
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I wonder if there is some strategist advising everyone to do this or if it is just a coincidence, but there is a weird trend in the last 48 hours of Republican presidential candidates doing "tours" of American cities that are third-world hellholes. So far, we have: - DeSantis - Trump - Ramaswamy - Haley All releasing videos this week where they tour some American city and describe the nightmare that has taken over all of them. Two of them went to San Francisco, one went to Kensington, Pennsylvania, and one went to Washington, D.C. https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1671562106649583616 https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1671268029118783488
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VideoGameVet posted:I gave up an executive level job at one of the larger game companies to work on curriculum based games in the 1990's. Worked with a good number of educators and researchers. Most local governments these days, at least in red states, seem to be actively sabotaging puic schools in order to push parents into privatized options instead.
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A friend is a financial advisor, and the moment the pandemic hit in 2020 and the schools started to close here in CA she had a ton of clients who are teachers come to her to sort out early retirement. They saw the writing on the wall, with remote learning and then dealing with learning loss, and bailed as soon as they could. My Kindergartner lost the last few months of his school year, and it wasn't for a few more months that we realized how far behind he really was. We were juggling multiple kids at home and remote work and managing life in a pandemic. We were able to find an online class to work on his reading skills, but remote schooling has been hard because when kids are on computers they are usually loving around watching videos or playing games, and getting them to focus without doing the work for them was really hard. And it's been 3 years of catch up. A lot of kids in his class have had behavioral disruptions, but it's hard to say if its more than usual. We are fortunate to be able to now supplement with in-person tutoring and we go to the library often, but we do tend to let our kids fall back on video games and online videos for entertainment. It's just such an easy parenting trap to fall into, the kids are happy and they are quiet and out of the way so we can get some poo poo done. And before you know it they've been watching Lankybox crap for hours.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I wonder if there is some strategist advising everyone to do this or if it is just a coincidence, but there is a weird trend in the last 48 hours of Republican presidential candidates doing "tours" of American cities that are third-world hellholes. There's so many articles out there about liberals trying to understand Trump voters or whites with no college education but you never see the same thing from the right. Just seething hatred for everything urban, and a blind eye for the poverty and substance abuse in their own backyard.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Most local governments these days, at least in red states, seem to be actively sabotaging puic schools in order to push parents into privatized options instead. Are most local governments doing that? I know some places are, but it is generally driven at the state level and I don't think it is anywhere near widespread enough to be "most" areas. Most local governments of major cities, even in red states, are generally not especially conservative. Only about 9% of kids in the U.S. are in private schools and Washington D.C. (which initially was forced into it by the national congress) is the "state" with the highest percentage of private school students. Private schools were a much bigger thing for the conservative agenda in the early 2000's, but most of them seem to have moved on to regulating public schools in different ways vs. trying to shut them down.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I wonder if there is some strategist advising everyone to do this or if it is just a coincidence, but there is a weird trend in the last 48 hours of Republican presidential candidates doing "tours" of American cities that are third-world hellholes. DeSantis' delivery is so low energy and weak, and people are casually rolling by on scooters and bicycles in the background as he says people are fleeing the area lol
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Only about 9% of kids in the U.S. are in private schools and Washington D.C. (which initially was forced into it by the national congress) is the "state" with the highest percentage of private school students. Does that figure include students enrolled in public charters? Hieronymous Alloy posted:Most local governments these days, at least in red states, seem to be actively sabotaging puic schools in order to push parents into privatized options instead. Local governments--or districts, anyway--around here (Oklahoma) are trying to stop this guy from totally annihilating public education. Posted a version of this elsewhere, but here's some niche CE that may be coming to a red state near you: quote:Last November Oklahoma elected this guy to be the state superintendent (make sure you see a pic of him so you, too, can see his empty, dead eyes). Here's a partial list of Walters' accomplishments in the first 5 months of his tenure: And yeah, it's all an effort to force the total privatization of education.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Does that figure include students enrolled in public charters? No, but it does include private charters. Most public charters aren't really like private schools at all. Most public charters are basically just normal public schools where the student body and funding isn't determined by zip code. They generally have the same unionization status and curriculum as other public schools in the state. The main problem with public charters is that they sometimes are run by private administrators, but public schools also do the same thing now where they hire private admin groups to run things. So, that is a potential problem with all public schools with boards who want to do that. Not that there aren't problem or bad public charters, but they are a very different thing from vouchers or private charters. https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=55 Edit: It looks like about 7% of students attend public charter schools (in 2020), so if you wanted to include every private school and every public charter together, it would be about 16.5% of students. https://data.publiccharters.org/dig...in%202019%2D20. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Mustang posted:There's so many articles out there about liberals trying to understand Trump voters or whites with no college education but you never see the same thing from the right. Yep, if they actually gave a poo poo and weren't concern trolling they'd be confronting the massive amounts of meth and fentanyl abuse that goes on in rural and rural-signifying places in America, many in their own states!
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Professor Beetus posted:Yep, if they actually gave a poo poo and weren't concern trolling they'd be confronting the massive amounts of meth and fentanyl abuse that goes on in rural and rural-signifying places in America, many in their own states! 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I wonder if there is some strategist advising everyone to do this or if it is just a coincidence, but there is a weird trend in the last 48 hours of Republican presidential candidates doing "tours" of American cities that are third-world hellholes. It’s the smokescreen Republican politicians deploy to distract from them almost all living in urban areas and certainly spending their time their by choice even when not fundraising.
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LMAO at "Kensington, PA" I seriously don't understand the motivation for insinuating that this neighborhood is a city in its own right, especially when the right is primed to hate Philly for 2020 (and of course generic big city reasons) all on its own
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Mustang posted:There's so many articles out there about liberals trying to understand Trump voters or whites with no college education but you never see the same thing from the right. Peripherally related and anecdotal, but there was a hilarious interview recently on the local NPR affiliate with one of the leaders of the movement to have a bunch of rural Oregon secede and join Idaho. One of her chief reasons was that she accused the liberals of not being willing to compromise and meet Republicans halfway on issues, and that was why the conservative members of congress had walked out on the session (thereby denying quorum), and why the conservatives counties wanted to secede. Because apparently they either get absolutely everything they want or they take their ball and go home, compromise is only something for liberals to do.
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cat botherer posted:School administrators are some of the most useless motherfuckers in America and actively make everything they touch worse. However, it looks like education departments also do a poor job of educating teachers on science-based, phonics-heavy reading methodologies ("science of reading"), with dyslexic students suffering some of the worst effects of this stupidity. I was in ed policy for about a year and a half and the people who want to "reform" the system want some nebulous system wide system shock that will finally make everyone get 99s on Math and Reading scores. No accounting for local culture, funding, or what works, the system just needs to "change." And education schools and schools systems seem desperate for anything to gain a few extra point on standardized tests to tell them they are good. What I am getting at here is that no one wants to acknowledge what works because funding spigots would turn off and it would disabuse certain private funders from the idea that know what they are doing with education.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I wonder if there is some strategist advising everyone to do this or if it is just a coincidence, but there is a weird trend in the last 48 hours of Republican presidential candidates doing "tours" of American cities that are third-world hellholes. Ron, go fix Jacksonville then you can tell us how to fix SF.
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Ahh yes, Kensington. I remember the good old days, before it was the meth capital of the world (a title it got in like 1981). ...or when it was a nice place to live, as portrayed in the stunning documentary, Rocky. ...or when the entire area was run by a joint Irish/Italian organized crime ring for nearly 40 years post WWII. Hell, the deadly Nativist Riots of 1844, where a bunch of "native" (read: got off the boat before you) folks decided that the Pope was commanding the (late to the party and thus savage and foreign) Irish Catholics to remove the Protestant version of the bible from schools, took place in Kensington. Dozens dead, churches and homes destroyed, millions (in 2023 dollars) in damages. Four generations of my family have called it home; I left 20+ years ago and never looked back.
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I don't believe I've seen a majority of Democrats or Dem-leaners cite healthcare costs as unaffordable since the Affordable Care Act was passed 13 years ago. (from a new poll released by Pew) I also don't recall healthcare costs ranking this close to inflation as a big or as a very problem:  (from the same poll)
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It's amusing seeing the divide on Violent Crime vs. Gun Violence.
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Willa Rogers posted:I don't believe I've seen a majority of Democrats or Dem-leaners cite healthcare costs as unaffordable since the Affordable Care Act was passed 13 years ago. Looks pretty similar to February's poll, really: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/02/06/economy-remains-the-publics-top-policy-priority-covid-19-concerns-decline-again/ At least on healthcare (affordability of healthcare at 71 rather than 73 for Dems). e: Bigger shift seems to be among Republicans, which went from 48 to 56--maybe that's what you're looking at? Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Rappaport posted:What a wonderful insight this was. Do you think you might have a follow-up, which I am sure you do, being a doctor in your field? Not a doctor but sure! (since you asked so nicely) "KQED posted:A group of Grade 9 students in Texas who substantially outperformed their district on a statewide standardized test all had one surprising thing in common: they all were members of the school’s Dungeons & Dragons club. See also: Chiu, F. Y., & Hsieh, M. L. (2017). Role-Playing Game Based Assessment to Fractional Concept in Second Grade Mathematics. EURASIA Journal of Mathematics, Science & Technology Education, 13(4), 1075-1083. quote:This study developed a set of Role-playing game (RPG), which was used to explore whether significant differences exist in academic performance and learning attitudes between RPG-based assessment and traditional lectures. This study also investigated the satisfaction of students toward the RPG scenario. Research participants included 100 second grade elementary students. The experimental results showed the different teaching methods affected the academic performance and learning attitude of second grade elementary students in fraction concepts. Learning by using RPG-based assessment can effectively improve the academic performance and learning attitudes of students. Students with high learning achievement were most satisfied with the RPG-based assessment scenarios, whereas those with low learning achievement demonstrated low levels of satisfaction. It is hoped that the innovative learning method provided by this study will help students. Cook, M. P., Gremo, M., & Morgan, R. (2017). We’re Just Playing: The Influence of a Modified Tabletop Role-Playing Game on ELA Students’ In-Class Reading. Simulation & Gaming, 48(2), 199-218. quote:"role-playing games can be viewed from the perspective of reading and writing; in fact, Hsu and Wang (2010) stated game playing “is equivalent to reading” and game designing “is equivalent to writing” (p. 402). Reading a game “requires the same amount of attention to details as reading other texts to locate the cultural work being done” (Toscano, 2011, p. 25). Abrams and Russo (2015) found that gameplay fostered deeper understanding of traditional reading concepts, such as literary elements, plot, etc. Games extend the concept of narrative and the role of reading beyond the texts traditionally associated with classrooms and literacy instruction (Harushimana, 2008).
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Looks pretty similar to February's poll, really: Strengthening the economy/Inflation went down 5 points since February while reducing healthcare costs/making healthcare more affordable increased by 5 points for Americans' top policy priority/top problem. But the wording was slightly different between the two polls for these questions.
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Willa Rogers posted:"Strengthening the economy" went down 5 points since February while "reducing healthcare costs/making healthcare more affordable" increased by 5 points for Americans' top policy priority/top problem. There's an increase among Republicans, too, which may have helped bump up the overall importance. But yeah, the wording might have had something to do with it as well--"strengthening economy" seems so broad as to be almost meaningless.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:That article is pretty wild. I’m a bit confused because the way this is described sounds like it perfectly makes sense to me, because it’s also how I was taught? I’m in my mid 30s. I remember being taught in grade school to use context clues whenever we come across a word we didn’t recognize. It seems like this is exactly what the quoted bit is saying to do?
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Boris Galerkin posted:I’m a bit confused because the way this is described sounds like it perfectly makes sense to me, because it’s also how I was taught? I’m in my mid 30s. I remember being taught in grade school to use context clues whenever we come across a word we didn’t recognize. It seems like this is exactly what the quoted bit is saying to do? You use context clues to infer the meaning of the word, you don't use context clues to infer the word itself.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Most public charters aren't really like private schools at all. Most public charters are basically just normal public schools where the student body and funding isn't determined by zip code. They generally have the same unionization status and curriculum as other public schools in the state. What differentiates public charters from public magnets? Boris Galerkin posted:I’m a bit confused because the way this is described sounds like it perfectly makes sense to me, because it’s also how I was taught? I’m in my mid 30s. I remember being taught in grade school to use context clues whenever we come across a word we didn’t recognize. It seems like this is exactly what the quoted bit is saying to do? You use context alone? Most people use the letters to narrow the problem space, then some combination of word similarities and context to select among them or determine the meaning of what results if it doesn't match any of whats left. GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:I’m a bit confused because the way this is described sounds like it perfectly makes sense to me, because it’s also how I was taught? I’m in my mid 30s. I remember being taught in grade school to use context clues whenever we come across a word we didn’t recognize. It seems like this is exactly what the quoted bit is saying to do? I remember being taught context clues, but they were more along the lines of seeing "Bob was ambidextrous, so it didn't matter which hand he used to hold his pen" and figuring out what ambidextrous meant. I don't recall ever being told to look at the illustrations and take a wild guess. I also don't recall reading a book with illustrations on every page after about second grade. My nieces and nephews were also taught "sight words", which I don't remember learning as a kid. Knowing 100 or so words on sight probably makes it easier to read a book containing only those specific words, but it doesn't do a thing when you see "horse" and only know "house", or even come across the plural, possessive, past tense, or other form or one of your sight words.
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pseudorandom name posted:You use context clues to infer the meaning of the word, you don't use context clues to infer the word itself. I don’t understand what the difference is
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JoshGuitar posted:I remember being taught context clues, but they were more along the lines of seeing "Bob was ambidextrous, so it didn't matter which hand he used to hold his pen" and figuring out what ambidextrous meant. I don't recall ever being told to look at the illustrations and take a wild guess. I also don't recall reading a book with illustrations on every page after about second grade. Maybe I’m misunderstanding then. Because for me context means the words on the page and also the pictures, if any. Looking at the picture is one form of context clues, just as is reading the sentences around it and trying to infer what the meaning of the word is from those.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Maybe I’m misunderstanding then. Because for me context means the words on the page and also the pictures, if any. Looking at the picture is one form of context clues, just as is reading the sentences around it and trying to infer what the meaning of the word is from those. Seeing "gleeblefitzer" and inferring the meaning from either the rest of the sentence or the illustrations is probably a valid use of context clues. With or without context clues, you can still tell what the word gleeblefitzer sounds like. You're still reading it. Seeing a sentence like "Suzie ate a bowl of soup", and having to look at the picture to tell whether they meant soup, soap, or shrimp isn't reading.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I’m a bit confused because the way this is described sounds like it perfectly makes sense to me, because it’s also how I was taught? I’m in my mid 30s. I remember being taught in grade school to use context clues whenever we come across a word we didn’t recognize. It seems like this is exactly what the quoted bit is saying to do? As I understand it, the idea behind phonics is that kids already know what word-sounds mean, because most of their language acquisition up to that point has been listening to adults talk. They just don't know how to connect that existing knowledge to those shapes on a piece of paper. Teaching them to convert written words to sounds allows them to make use of the spoken vocabulary they already possess - they can sound out the word and see if it sounds like a word they've heard before. Context clues aren't always available, but sufficient information to convert a written word to a spoken word is always available if the word is visible (once they've sufficiently learned how to sound out English's various quirks, anyway), so it's more generally applicable.
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It seems like the confusion is that I’m thinking of a situation where the kid can read the word but doesn’t know what the word means, but the article and therefore you guys are talking about a situation where the kid can’t read the word and may or may not know what the word means? E: vv ok yeah I think I completely misunderstood
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Boris Galerkin posted:I don’t understand what the difference is Context clues are more advanced, you use them to learn new vocabulary when you already know how to read.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:No, but it does include private charters. Uh yeah this is wrong. Charter school policy and law is set at the state, local, and district levels so there is not a lot of consistency on what a charter school is. I would not assume they are meeting the same standards as a public school. I definitely would not assume they have the same unionization status. I know for a fact they are not in Massachusetts even though the public districts are unionized. One of the points of a charter school is that they set their own curriculum. That's one of the major selling points most use. Also no one calls them private charter vs public charter. Private charter is just called a private school and public charter is just called a charter school. You're not really being given a charter if you're a private school.
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GlyphGryph posted:What differentiates public charters from public magnets? The main difference is that you can have specialized curriculum/administration exemptions that normal public schools aren't always allowed to have. Foreign language immersion, tech school, longer school day, etc. Magnet schools also usually have some kind of application or academic requirements, whereas admission to charter schools is usually determined by lottery. There's some other minor differences (like school board setup) and probably a few others that I am forgetting, but those are the big differences.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Uh yeah this is wrong. Charter school policy and law is set at the state, local, and district levels so there is not a lot of consistency on what a charter school is. I would not assume they are meeting the same standards as a public school. I definitely would not assume they have the same unionization status. I know for a fact they are not in Massachusetts even though the public districts are unionized. The fact that charter school policy is set at the local and state level (and the district determines the curriculum changes via the charter) is why they are different from private schools. They are not really in the same policy category as private schools or vouchers. The charter school itself does not set its own curriculum 100% independently like a private school does. It basically gets an alternative set of administration or curriculum rules that are determined by the public at the state/local level. Private charter school is generally a shorthand for "run by a for-profit organization and accepts private donations." Some jurisdictions regulate what type of entities can run charters and how they are funded, but others don't. quote:For charters, private refers to the funding sources such as private companies and individuals who can make decisions about a child’s education without community or public input. Charter schools operate under a charter, drawn up by a private group or entity. Charter schools might use the term “free private schools”, while at the same time stating that they are public schools. This can lead to confusion for parents. quote:Private schools can set their own admission and curriculum guidelines because they do not take taxpayer dollars. Religious and independent private schools rely heavily upon student tuition that could range anywhere from a few thousand to tens of thousands of dollars per year. Edit: Here's a good explainer that goes over the actual practical differences between the two and is longer and more coherent than I can type on my phone right now: quote:Why Are Charter Schools and Private Schools Confused? https://www.methodschools.org/blog/7-differences-between-charter-and-private-schools Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The fact that charter school policy is set at the local and state level (and the district determines the curriculum changes via the charter) is why they are different from private schools. They are not really in the same policy category as private schools or vouchers. The charter school itself does not set its own curriculum 100% independently like a private school does. It basically gets an alternative set of administration or curriculum rules that are determined by the public at the state/local level. Your explainer is a charter school ad.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Your explainer is a charter school ad. It's a blog post that is laying out specific obvious legal differences. Here's a U.S. News and World Report article that says the same thing: https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/articles/understanding-charter-schools-vs-public-schools Do you think any of the specifics about funding differences, governing laws, or tuition in either article are false?
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