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Your Computer posted:drat it this is too long for a thread title Roguelikes - accessible to the elites with discipline and moral character
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the current thread title is perfect don't change it
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Jun 21, 2023 09:29
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It's indeed a great title. nrook posted:... metaprogression creates a sort of comforting emotional substrate when playing such games, an assurance that the player's results will improve even if they don't actually get better at the game. Honestly, I'm not that interested in getting better at video games. It's something I discovered over the years, or decades even. I'm not the type of player that plays the same game again and again and it's motivated by the challenge itself. I'm more of a explorer kind of player, I like to explore, not only new worlds, but new gameplay concepts, new ideas, new stories, new stuff. That's why I usually play a lot of games instead of having hundreds of hours in a few ones like some people do, and it's why I like almost every genre (except sports).
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Jun 21, 2023 09:46
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Apparently Monolith is getting renamed to... preemptively avoid any legal troubles from WB which owns the trademark on that word? More importantly the Relics of the Past DLC will be included with the base game after the rename goes through, so if you own the base game already you're getting that DLC for free.
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Jun 21, 2023 09:58
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Dachshundofdoom posted:Apparently Monolith is getting renamed to... preemptively avoid any legal troubles from WB which owns the trademark on that word? Makes sense, one of the developers owned by WB is Monolith Productions, with their logo just saying Monolith.
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Jun 21, 2023 10:09
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Seriously what is the deal with this game? How does it not have a negative review on the entire internet?
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Jun 21, 2023 11:23
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Well it's great, so
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Jun 21, 2023 11:41
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No Wave posted:Seriously what is the deal with this game? How does it not have a negative review on the entire internet? It has 33 negative reviews on Steam (vs 1600 positive ones) The first two!  But more seriously, and I think this applies here, I read time ago an article about marketing from an indie dev perspective, and one of the thing I remember is the importance to clearly show what type of game is your game, what genre and what specific style. In the title, the description, the trailer, etc. That way you avoid as much as possible people buying your game randomly that in the end will not like it because it goes against their expectatives or their wished play style, and leave a negative review. It's funny because it's the opposite of hype based marketing campaigns that try to fool as many people as possible. All to make sure your Steam score review is high (of course making a good game it's the first step for this...)
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Jun 21, 2023 12:53
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Yeah that's basically it you're right. People don't play the game if it's not for them. Side note, this game got its first bad review in three years (and I like this one a lot), I wonder why people were playing it in the last 24 hours?  the review in question: 
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Jun 21, 2023 13:32
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quiggy posted:Well it's great, so It really is. Monolith and Deathstate are two of my absolute favorite roguelike bullet hell games from the past decade. Also, Deathstate doesn’t get nearly enough credit. The first time I played Vampire Survivors, I thought it was just a less engaging version of Deathstate, although it basically perfected the amount of dopamine you can get with this formula.
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Jun 21, 2023 14:38
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No Wave posted:Yeah that's basically it you're right. People don't play the game if it's not for them. quote:Side note, this game got its first bad review in three years (and I like this one a lot), I wonder why people were playing it in the last 24 hours? AIUI it got picked up recently by a medium-popular streamer, we've been seeing a lot of new players on the discord. That's not actually its first bad review, but most of the previous ones were the same deal -- someone who has nothing to say about the game and just wants to be the first person to post a negative review. They were ultimately flagged and removed by steam, and I expect the same will eventually happen with this one too. IIRC there were a few exceptions, where people actually had substantive criticism of the game, but in those cases Veyerals actually addressed their complaints in a later patch and they went back and revised the reviews afterwards. Sooner or later someone is going to play it who (a) actually has a reason not to recommend it that (b) can't be resolved without compromising the dev's vision for the game, and at that point it'll lose that 100% positive rating for good, but we aren't there yet.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:35
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ToxicFrog posted:I played Monolith a bunch and ultimately concluded it wasn't for me, but didn't bother leaving a negative review because it does what it's trying to do very well, it's just that what it's doing isn't really something I vibe with.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:43
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No Wave posted:I cant stand monolith. Its like anti fun for me and I'm pretty shmup tolerant. I think the levels are long and dull and the bosses arent fun enough to make up for it (art and music do nothing for me either). I've always found it interesting how divergent my experience is from basically everyone else's on this one and I'm happy to hear from someone else who bounced off it. I bounced off it very hard, and didn't bother to leave a negative review. It had potential for me to enjoy it, but It's a game I'd have to honestly sink work into before I could start to like it.
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Jun 21, 2023 18:55
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No Wave posted:I cant stand monolith. Its like anti fun for me and I'm pretty shmup tolerant. I think the levels are long and dull and the bosses arent fun enough to make up for it (art and music do nothing for me either). I've always found it interesting how divergent my experience is from basically everyone else's on this one and I'm happy to hear from someone else who bounced off it. I wouldn't say I can't stand it but I was also very underwhelmed after all the hype and bounced off it after a few hours. I can't name anything I think it did poorly but it didn't do anything that excited me either, it just felt like a pretty standard action roguelite. I am admittedly not a shmup or bullet hell fan though. I did think the music and art was cool and I've gone back to it a couple times since then for a single run (5 hours played total) and even bought the DLC. I think I beat it once? Honestly my biggest actual complaint about the game is that dodging doesn't give iframes, despite me not being into it I still see it as solid game design if that's the most negative thing I can think of to say about it. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Jun 21, 2023 19:12
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Post poste posted:I bounced off it very hard, and didn't bother to leave a negative review.
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Jun 21, 2023 19:16
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I'll give it another try once the DLC is free but likewise Monolith wasn't bad, it just wasn't particularly my thing. I only leave bad reviews if a game actively pissed me off.
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Jun 21, 2023 20:06
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deep dish peat moss posted:Honestly my biggest actual complaint about the game is that dodging doesn't give iframes iirc one of the upgrades you can get in a run gives dodge iframes
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Jun 21, 2023 20:12
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monolith achieves what it sets out to do almost perfectly that doesn't mean it's for everyone by any stretch, but if you dig on it's particular mix of genres it's basically catnip
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Jun 21, 2023 21:29
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Half* of the negative attention Monolith subconsciously gets is just down to there Still being no surge of Monolith-inspired fare(as well as the game still not being done in the Above & Beyond sense) hitting different setting and such touchstones that people have been fiending for ever since getting a taste. It is so good/specific there thus far just can't even be proper inspirations unlike the Vampire Survivors advent.
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Jun 21, 2023 23:57
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I hope the Monolith devs change the name to something goofy that's also just different enough to not get them into trouble, like "Bonolith" or "Lithomon" or some poo poo
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Jun 22, 2023 07:12
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Simon The Digger posted:I hope the Monolith devs change the name to something goofy that's also just different enough to not get them into trouble, like "Bonolith" or "Lithomon" or some poo poo Duolith
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Jun 22, 2023 07:16
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Simon The Digger posted:I hope the Monolith devs change the name to something goofy that's also just different enough to not get them into trouble, like "Bonolith" or "Lithomon" or some poo poo The image accompanying the announcement suggests they have a new one lined up already: 
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Jun 22, 2023 07:38
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Tunicate posted:Duolith Stereolith
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Jun 22, 2023 07:47
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Jeeze Shiren does not gently caress around after you complete the initial 3 towers, the next dungeon is way harder. How far does that thing go anyways? I think I made it to like floor 12 on my first attempt. Also I'm pretty sure I'm still in the "tutorial" because I did a dungeon from the dungeon center where staffs and pots and stuff weren't auto-identified and that's still not the case where I'm at in the story.
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Jun 22, 2023 13:31
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Jack Trades posted:Most people just want that dopamine hit from the number going up, and don't care about investing effort into improving I am unironically playing rogueli*es in part to develop more resilience and persistence, which are not traits that I possess in abundance and wish I had more of. I played Elden Ring for the same reason.
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Jun 22, 2023 15:01
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Subjunctive posted:I am unironically playing rogueli*es in part to develop more resilience and persistence, which are not traits that I possess in abundance and wish I had more of. I played Elden Ring for the same reason. It's the reason why I like Fighting Games so much, as well as Roguelikes.
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Jun 22, 2023 15:06
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Subjunctive posted:I am unironically playing rogueli*es in part to develop more resilience and persistence, which are not traits that I possess in abundance and wish I had more of. I played Elden Ring for the same reason. Same - playing roguelikes to develop the tactical skills I need to succeed in blobbers and RPGs, the nerd version of cross-training 
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Jun 22, 2023 15:08
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noticed that there's a tag on steam now for "action roguelike "to differentiate games like binding of isaac from more traditional roguelikes ....except that those games just now have both tags and it serves no purpose
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Jun 22, 2023 15:09
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Your Computer posted:noticed that there's a tag on steam now for "action roguelike "to differentiate games like binding of isaac from more traditional roguelikes Does Steam have any way to search for ((has tag "roguelike") and (does not have tag "action roguelike")), or is it just "show me everything with this tag"?
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Jun 22, 2023 15:14
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Your Computer posted:noticed that there's a tag on steam now for "action roguelike "to differentiate games like binding of isaac from more traditional roguelikes There is no proper standardization in Steam game tags, nor there is an entity (Valve) that watches over their use, so while informative, they aren't a good proper classification you can trust. You will find games with 'roguelike' (but there aren't trad roguelikes), 'action roguelike' and 'roguelite' in Steam.
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Jun 22, 2023 15:15
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ToxicFrog posted:Does Steam have any way to search for ((has tag "roguelike") and (does not have tag "action roguelike")), or is it just "show me everything with this tag"? It does since a year ago or so they added the ability to exclude tags from search results.
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Jun 22, 2023 15:17
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Good, but inherently somewhat conflicting gains for a new Path of Achra update as the price of such amounts to less presumably delicious baked goods out there in the world---but the price seems worth it: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2128270/view/3667667035801957787 quote:Thanks to the successful launch, I was able to reduce my hours at the bakery somewhat. This update is a product of that; more tweaks, +6 prestige classes, some added features, notably an encyclopedia of enemies. Another gradual process with these updates is just iterating through starting options and items and adding bonuses to things that feel weak. As always, player experience is immensely helpful in determining what's strong / fun / weak / not fun --- thank you for the continued feedback, it's been an honor getting to work on this. The path unfolds...
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Jun 22, 2023 16:06
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ToxicFrog posted:Does Steam have any way to search for ((has tag "roguelike") and (does not have tag "action roguelike")), or is it just "show me everything with this tag"? Yep. This search is ("roguelike" or "traditional roguelike") AND NOT "action roguelike".
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Jun 22, 2023 16:48
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Is there anything similar to Balataro for Android? I'd enjoy playing something low effort like that on the phone. Slice & Dice is good but I find it a bit too findly to play on the phone.
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Jun 22, 2023 19:27
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I played Balatro. I like how it looks. It's fun for a while. But it annoys me that the reward for clearing encounters in fewer turns soon becomes insignificant compared to clearing as slowly as possible in order to proc your econ abilities as much as possible.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:57
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Yeah people talked about it before, the gold seal cards mechanic definitely needs a rework because literally every other mechanic rewards stalling as long as you can
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Jun 24, 2023 01:36
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I'm surprised how bad darkest dungeon 2 is feeling despite how much I should like all of its changes on paper. Mastery feels critical for skills to be worth using at all (it doesn't feel like there are "normal" and "upgraded" skills, it feels like there are "bad" and "normal" skills) but you get way too little of it after the first chapter, which starts you with 5 but subsequent ones only start you with 2, with too much RNG in how much mastery you get after that. this makes fights in the first couple areas take forever. feels like a slog. Enemies getting death's door slows the game down and contributes to it feeling like a slog. being able to see the turn order is great, except it lies to you constantly and enemies frequently take two turns in a row. I just had the game quietly unequip my healer's very important heal skill after an inn because ??? and lost a run because I got in a fight and suddenly found my ability to heal had been replaced by a different, useless move. I am dead certain I did not do this myself. Owl Inspector fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jun 24, 2023 |
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Jun 24, 2023 05:00
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Xom posted:I played Balatro. I like how it looks. It's fun for a while. But it annoys me that the reward for clearing encounters in fewer turns soon becomes insignificant compared to clearing as slowly as possible in order to proc your econ abilities as much as possible. The dev's planning to change it, thankfully; this is from a video they posted yesterday:  Also, lmao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THFXhFa4dQ Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jun 24, 2023 |
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Jun 24, 2023 05:39
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I've been really enjoying voidigo so far, was on my best run with some bonkers build that filled half the screen with explosions and about to loop a second time, and then it crashed from being out of memory. I have 32 GB RAM. What unholy memory leak does this game have
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Owl Inspector posted:I've been really enjoying voidigo so far, was on my best run with some bonkers build that filled half the screen with explosions and about to loop a second time, and then it crashed from being out of memory. I have 32 GB RAM. What unholy memory leak does this game have Yeah its a weird game. I've been questioning some of the decisions the team made. We have a thread for it! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4034148 Probably doesn't need one though lol In short, they spent so much time on art they kinda forgot a lot of other things
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