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Archonex posted:As a side note, do we know for sure it was at 4000 meters and not descending? What I saw of the presser seemed vague on that point. Other dive ships do about 500m per hour They were in the ship for an hour and 45 minutes They were thus likely around 1600m which was about halfway there
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Eric Cantonese posted:PPP loans were intended to help small businesses pay their bills and their employees during the Covid-19 pandemic, especially given the fallout from all of the lockdowns. The program was definitely gamed, but if you were actually using them as intended, you were eligible for loan forgiveness. Also Trump removed the person who was in charge of oversight of the program https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-politics-health-cc921bccf9f7abd27da996ef772823e4 I'm sure that was totally above board and not so his friends could game the system
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SulfurMonoxideCute posted:So the entire point of waivers is to prevent the company from facing a lawsuit because it then legally puts the sole responsibility of risk on the participant, but I bet these waivers were just written in MSWord by the CEO from some template he found online and were never reviewed by any lawyer because he's a dumbass cheapskate. You can't waive away gross criminal negligence. The guilty party is a salty red stew at the bottom of the Atlantic, but other people from the company could be liable as well.
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SulfurMonoxideCute posted:I bet these waivers were just written in MSWord by the CEO from some template he found online and were never reviewed by any lawyer because he's a dumbass cheapskate. If they’re anything like the startup company I worked at then yes, absolutely.
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To put it in perspective for people, a pressure washer tends to run at 1,300 psi to 1,700 for electric models and 2000-2800 psi for gas ones. The electric ones can and will chop through soft tissue. I've seen this myself when a dog stupidly thought it was a normal jet of water from a hose and came out of nowhere to bite at the stream. It pierced their jaw and nearly went into their eye, which if it had would have pierced it and entered their brain killing them instantly. It was only quick reactions that kept this from happening and limited it to major surgery to repair their jaw and stem the extremely heavy bleeding that nearly killed the animal anyways before we could get him to a vet. The interior of the titan would have experienced an onrushing of water at a pressure of 6000 psi at best. TL;DR: They aren't finding poo poo from the inside of that ship. The inrushing of water alone would have discorporated them. Edit: Psi, for the record, means pounds per square inch to give an even clearer indication of how hosed those people were. Archonex fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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steinrokkan posted:To shreds, you say 
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SulfurMonoxideCute posted:So the entire point of waivers is to prevent the company from facing a lawsuit because it then legally puts the sole responsibility of risk on the participant, but I bet these waivers were just written in MSWord by the CEO from some template he found online and were never reviewed by any lawyer because he's a dumbass cheapskate. I'm also pretty sure that waivers aren't just magical "get out of all legal liability no matter how negligent or criminal my actions are" passes? Past a certain point of reckless negligence it doesn't matter what anybody's signed or not signed.
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ethanol posted:Personally as an engineer or whateverI think the most likely outcome is that the hull was shredded by the compression and sitting on the floor the size of rocks or smaller. Therefore quite hard to detect. Even if the robotic subs are down there for weeks or months or years. I’m not sure if at least some little bits of wreckage would float to the top or not but even stuff like life preservers might have been totally shredded in about a millisecond. The biggest pieces might be those endcaps and the legs of the thing / other stuff outside of the pressure hull, which were already equalized. I should win something imo.. I should get a billion dollars
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The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions.
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Vegetable posted:What were the final moments of the sub people? Now that we know how they died, do we know if they might have seen it happening or was it more likely instantaneous? *chud tweet deleted* Space Kablooey fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Vegetable posted:What were the final moments of the sub people? Now that we know how they died, do we know if they might have seen it happening or was it more likely instantaneous? apparently it had a hull failure alarm which probably didn't work since that engineer they fired said that in testing it usually didn't actually go off until a few milliseconds before the hull actually failed
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Vegetable posted:What were the final moments of the sub people? Now that we know how they died, do we know if they might have seen it happening or was it more likely instantaneous? They were vaporized at hundreds of thousand of degrees in less than a millisecond.
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Klyith posted:I don't think anything gets totally incinerated, there's just not enough time before the water hits it a microsecond later.
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cock hero flux posted:apparently it had a hull failure alarm which probably didn't work since that engineer they fired said that in testing it usually didn't actually go off until a few milliseconds before the hull actually failed even if it did work, how much advance warning could it feasibly give?
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ChickenHeart posted:The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions. I appreciated this
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So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days https://twitter.com/shejstaz/status/1671944064558661683?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days This sounds like something the navy and rescue boats should have known about too if they weren't informed.
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smoobles posted:I can't prove it but in my opinion the passengers are still alive we didn't find the bodies!!!!
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smoobles posted:I can't prove it but in my opinion the passengers are still alive They live on... only in our memories now.
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days oh lol oceangate gonna get sued into oblivion
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Instantaneous I legit think the French sub guy found out he had some incurable disease and wanted to go out on his own terms. He had talked about how fast it would be to die that way in the past OMFG FURRY posted:oh lol oceangate gonna get sued into oblivion Lol they are about to get a lot of invoices from some angry governments
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OMFG FURRY posted:oh lol oceangate gonna get sued into oblivion For what? Their primary financial asset is in pieces at the bottom of the sea, and the CEO has disintegrated into the tides.
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days That probably would've been a nice thing to tell everyone you know...4 loving days ago.
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Malloc Voidstar posted:found a definitely accurate recreation on twitter Pod Six is jerks!
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