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What are the chances all of this is an elaborate plan to make the Ukrainians blink? No sources seem to agree about anything that's happening and so far, it looks like nothing but videos and social media chatter.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:15
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jaete posted:Were the military vehicles etc in Moscow confirmed by someone reliable? Only saw what looked like random rumours so far Yeah, there are photos and videos
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Jun 23, 2023 23:16
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:What are the chances all of this is an elaborate plan to make the Ukrainians blink? 0% chance. Prigozhin has been formally charged, its been reported on state media, Russians in a variety of sectors are loving terrified, in many places special forces have been called up.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:17
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"Shitposted so hard the government put tanks on the street" is a pretty awesome epitaph though.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:17
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jaete posted:Were the military vehicles etc in Moscow confirmed by someone reliable? Only saw what looked like random rumours so far There are dozens of independent reports with videos and photos. Pretty much as confirmed as it gets. https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1672358168507080707 https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672368194470785035 https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1672343803158577152 https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1672358419582386178 https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672361171721043971
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Jun 23, 2023 23:18
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How much pull does this guy actually have with the Russian military to get anything off the ground?
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Jun 23, 2023 23:18
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:What are the chances all of this is an elaborate plan to make the Ukrainians blink? No sources seem to agree about anything that's happening and so far, it looks like nothing but videos and social media chatter. What would that blinking possibly be? Do you think that within the next hour Ukraine makes a reckless attack on the Wagner headquarters because they assume that they left the coop to occupy Moscow? If this is a psy-op it's a weird one at best. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Jun 23, 2023 23:20
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FlamingLiberal posted:How much pull does this guy actually have with the Russian military to get anything off the ground? Before this happened, people speculated he must have had friends in high places, maybe support from the FSB or something. Now? Seems more and more like he's got nothing with every passing minute.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:20
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I don't really get still being on the fence about this. It's happening folks.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:24
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672369175749173248
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Jun 23, 2023 23:24
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spankmeister posted:I don't really get still being on the fence about this. It's happening folks. https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1672368861763567616?s=20
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Jun 23, 2023 23:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:This account is a pretty good source, right? I haven't been keeping up lately with this conflict too closely though. Also got the same thing from CNN: https://twitter.com/MarquardtA/status/1672367472949751811
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Jun 23, 2023 23:29
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Have we seen actual fighting occur yet between Wagner and the Russian army?
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Jun 23, 2023 23:32
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Willo567 posted:Have we seen actual fighting occur yet between Wagner and the Russian army? No, just unconfirmed rumors
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Jun 23, 2023 23:32
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Willo567 posted:Have we seen actual fighting occur yet between Wagner and the Russian army? Rumors of fighting in Rostov and the M4 highway being blocked but nothing solid yet.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:33
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State TV has started their broadcast, apparently began by calling Prigozhin's video a fake Edit: https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1672372486858764289 MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Jun 23, 2023 23:33
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:What are the chances all of this is an elaborate plan to make the Ukrainians blink? No sources seem to agree about anything that's happening and so far, it looks like nothing but videos and social media chatter. It just seems so damaging to morale, I can't see what a fake Wagner-MoD war could achieve that would be worth the cost or risk
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Jun 23, 2023 23:34
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FlamingLiberal posted:This account is a pretty good source, right? I haven't been keeping up lately with this conflict too closely though. There is enough traffic on all forms of media for you to assume something significant with Wagner and/or its leader is going down. I was in semi-disbelief most of the afternoon. It's so weird that you can't make it up at this point.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:34
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FlamingLiberal posted:This account is a pretty good source, right? I haven't been keeping up lately with this conflict too closely though. No, one of the worst ones. It literally invented nuke movement stuff.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:35
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Broadcast is apparently finished.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:36
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Is this stuff happening in "real time" or are all these tweets just catching up? As of this post it's 6:37pm in New York and 1:37am in Moscow. Seems late to be happening in real time but what do I know I've never planned or attempted a coup before.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:38
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MegaZeroX posted:State TV has started their broadcast, apparently began by calling Prigozhin's video a fake So, it's definitely on. Boris Galerkin posted:Is this stuff happening in "real time" or are all these tweets just catching up? As of this post it's 6:37pm in New York and 1:37am in Moscow. Seems late to be happening in real time but what do I know I've never planned or attempted a coup before. I think the idea is you want your coups to happen in the middle of the night to minimize casualties and interference. The Turkey coup in 2016 started at 11:00pm, with the jets being scrambled and buzzing Ankara while attack helicopters began bombing police stations. By midnight, the military had started seizing key intersections and buildings. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Jun 23, 2023 23:39
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is this stuff happening in "real time" or are all these tweets just catching up? As of this post it's 6:37pm in New York and 1:37am in Moscow. Seems late to be happening in real time but what do I know I've never planned or attempted a coup before. There is about a 2-3 minute delay from telegram posts to being reported on in English. Yes, this is all happening late at night/early morning.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:40
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So what happens now, besides Wagner/Prigozhin getting quashed?
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Jun 23, 2023 23:40
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Nenonen posted:Looks like Prigozhin forgot to place a briefcase bomb under the Kremlin meeting room table with Putin and Shoigu before starting his putsch. 
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Jun 23, 2023 23:41
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Grouchio posted:So what happens now, besides Wagner/Prigozhin getting quashed? There is absolutely no way to know, IF Wagner is actually attempting something then we're in totally uncharted waters.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:42
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https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1672375023888216069
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Jun 23, 2023 23:45
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Hi, everyone, I'm here for the Potential Coup Viewing? Is it assigned seats or do we just sit anywhere?
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Jun 23, 2023 23:48
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Chalks posted:No, what will happen is Prigozhin will be arrested or assassinated and that'll be it. Agreed. Wagner can't actually do anything by themselves unless there's sudden mass defections by the army. The Ukrainian camp must be all  though that it's finally happening
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Jun 23, 2023 23:48
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Moon Slayer posted:There is absolutely no way to know, IF Wagner is actually attempting something then we're in totally uncharted waters. Based on the evidence what we can say is that Prigozhin overstepped the line one time too many, and now there is something going on between MoD and Wagner that is causing some level of mutinies if not an actual coup attempt in the front, Rostov and Moscow.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:49
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mutata posted:Hi, everyone, I'm here for the Potential Coup Viewing? Is it assigned seats or do we just sit anywhere? Sorry, we're booked 3 months in advance. Didn't you get the memo we sent out?
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Jun 23, 2023 23:49
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mutata posted:Hi, everyone, I'm here for the Potential Coup Viewing? Is it assigned seats or do we just sit anywhere? Standing room only now. But there's plenty of popcorn.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:51
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mutata posted:Hi, everyone, I'm here for the Potential Coup Viewing? Is it assigned seats or do we just sit anywhere? I am on my second bottle of wine but please behave and check your sources when you post tweets Hillariously tomorrow (or rather today) in St Petersburg is "Scarlet Sails", an annual big celebration of high school graduates with fireworks and ships.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:52
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mutata posted:Hi, everyone, I'm here for the Potential Coup Viewing? Is it assigned seats or do we just sit anywhere? Front row is a
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Jun 23, 2023 23:52
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I fully support the Wagner Special Military Operation.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:54
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:What are the chances all of this is an elaborate plan to make the Ukrainians blink? No sources seem to agree about anything that's happening and so far, it looks like nothing but videos and social media chatter. To pretend to be incompetent to lure your enemy into complacency goes against everything Putin is and believes in. There is nothing more important to him than appearing to be in control. Pretending to be losing or have lost control is anathema to him
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Jun 23, 2023 23:54
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FlamingLiberal posted:How much pull does this guy actually have with the Russian military to get anything off the ground? Wagner and MOD hate each other. That’s why these events have ended up occurring.
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Jun 23, 2023 23:56
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fatherboxx posted:Hillariously tomorrow (or rather today) in St Petersburg is "Scarlet Sails", an annual big celebration of high school graduates with fireworks and ships. Sounds like the third act to a movie. I also like the title "Scarlet Sails." Can we get Daniel Day Lewis to come out of retirement to play Putin?
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Jun 23, 2023 23:56
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https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1672377846524772353quote:A senior American intelligence official tells me for both Ukraine and U.S. intelligence, it’s a “watch and see if they destroy themselves sort of situation.” They said it was going to be a long night of watching how this develops. Said Wagner is preparing* to mobilize—it’s believed they want to head towards Moscow. MegaZeroX fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Jun 23, 2023 23:57
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Even in the middle of a coup, Russia can't help but bomb. https://twitter.com/IrynaVoichuk/status/1672375967203971076?s=20 Edit: Wagner Telegram channel is showing video of an army convoy full of military police heading toward MoD. Since it's Wagner, not sure if they're implying it's them or just the regular army. https://twitter.com/faineg/status/1672376524127850501?s=20 Young Freud fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 24, 2023 |
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