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Yes mr. president, the troops are fighting heroically. Please don't ask for whom, though.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:03
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he calls prigozhin's actions a stab in the back
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Jun 24, 2023 08:03
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Baby sounds angry. Guess he's trying hard to keep projecting that tough-guy image. Also, WTF is with the resolution on that video? He looks like he's talking from an FMV game, even with the stream at 1080p.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:03
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HonorableTB posted:he calls prigozhin's actions a stab in the back Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/mariageorgieva/status/1672500219928358912?t=xod_miWMN54sqYLs_cXz1A&s=19
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Jun 24, 2023 08:04
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putin: this attempt to split society is a stab in the back. the authorities will not allow a split in russia to happen again, we will protect the people we faced betrayal, exorbitant ambitions led to the betrayal of russia
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Jun 24, 2023 08:04
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guess it's moscow or die for prigo now
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Jun 24, 2023 08:04
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Humphreys posted:Putin addressing the nation! BBC World News has an interpreter https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66006142
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Jun 24, 2023 08:04
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HonorableTB posted:"russia is waging a hard fight for its future, the entire military and information machine of the west is directed against russia" The fate of POCCNR is to be ruined economically, militarily, and socially, old fool. You had one correct play, and that wasn't invading Ukraine. You have only yourself to blame for that.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:04
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This one has live English translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE
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Jun 24, 2023 08:05
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but where is' the Gazprom PMC? will they be fighting with or against the musicians in the Moscow outskirts?
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Jun 24, 2023 08:05
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This is all loving delicious.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:05
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putin called the wagner fighters heroes who are fighting in the SMO and said their name and glory were betrayed by those who organized the rebellion. any turmoil is a mortal threat, our actions will be touch Russian armed forces received the necessary order to neutralize those who organized the armed rebellion
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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Is this what they call a clusterfuck? also lol state of emergency is Moskva
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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Putin: as a citizen of russia, I will do everything to defend the country. decisive actions WILL be taken.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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HonorableTB posted:putin called the wagner fighters heroes who are fighting in the SMO and said their name and glory were betrayed by those who organized the rebellion. any turmoil is a mortal threat, our actions will be touch Remains to be seen if any will actually listen, and so far the track record seems to be "not really."
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_paG_Irk_e4
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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Russia as a general rule feels like it's co-written by Cormac McCarthy and Larry David.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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Google Jeb Bush posted:guess it's moscow or die for prigo now One thing's for certain: A week from today, there will be a few less billionaires in the world. Which ones won't be around anymore? Who knows...
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Jun 24, 2023 08:06
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HonorableTB posted:Putin: as a citizen of russia, I will do everything to defend the country. decisive actions WILL be taken. Pants beware
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Jun 24, 2023 08:07
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Everyone who deliberately embarked on the path of betrayal will suffer inevitable punishment. Actions will be taken to stabilize the situation in Rostov-on-Don and Voronezh
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Jun 24, 2023 08:07
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Speech over, sorry if I missed anything important. Is hard to translate on the fly like that and keep up
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Jun 24, 2023 08:07
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HonorableTB posted:Everyone who deliberately embarked on the path of betrayal will suffer inevitable punishment. Actions will be taken to stabilize the situation in
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Jun 24, 2023 08:07
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I'm really struggling to see Putin's plan here. It almost seems like he's doing a "wait to see who wins" strategy before openly supporting one side, but if that was the case why are his media all vociferously anti Prigozhin? What easy options out does he have though. If he orders to fire on Wagner this moves into completely unpredictable territory where anything could happen. There is no turning back from that. I can absolutely understand the hesitation to make that choice. KitConstantine posted:Russia: much easier to conquer than Ukraine, apparently This is how they probably imagined the attack on Kyiv to go back in Feb 2022. These people understand how authoritarian societies react to situations like these and erroneously projected it on Ukrainian society.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:07
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Grape posted:Russia as a general rule feels like it's co-written by Cormac McCarthy and Larry David. 
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Jun 24, 2023 08:09
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so, it's march on Moscow or death now, then
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Jun 24, 2023 08:09
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Oh well I guess Putin has shown his hand. I guess it's just up to how many loyal soldiers Pution has around Moscow these days. Also got to wonder what happens to Kadyrov and the Chechens.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:10
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Are there other factions outside of Wagner that would be in a position to take a power grab? Or has everyone else fallen out a window?
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Jun 24, 2023 08:10
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these wagner folks seem pretty bad. it's nice that they're disrupting the russian war against ukraine for a bit, but i hope they don't end up in charge of anything.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:10
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So if you're the chef and have just been informed by the president that he considers you a traitor and is gonna kill you dead once he catches you What do you do with the military leaders and personnel you already have your hands on? Note that "leave them alive behind you" has been shown to be a bad strategy in the recent past
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Jun 24, 2023 08:10
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KitConstantine posted:Meanwhile: So putin's really gonna lose isn't he
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Jun 24, 2023 08:11
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Is it just me, or is Putin broadcasting from a plane? Cause those fans in the background sure sound like a jet engine to me. Everything is fine, do not believe what you hear, I am not bound for Uruguay at this time...
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Jun 24, 2023 08:11
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Oh well I guess Putin has shown his hand. I guess it's just up to how many loyal soldiers Pution has around Moscow these days. They're currently on guard on the road to Moscow. If they meet, it'll probably be a fight. Though given the crazy poo poo that's already happened, maybe the comedy option is Kadyrov and Pigozhin joining forces.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:11
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Google Jeb Bush posted:guess it's moscow or die for prigo now alea iacta est. at this point the only way this ends is for someone to get killed.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:12
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zone posted:They're currently on guard on the road to Moscow. If they meet, it'll probably be a fight. Though given the crazy poo poo that's already happened, maybe the comedy option is Kadyrov and Pigozhin joining forces. I predict it's gonna be a repeat of Mosul 2014. Just with standing around confused instead of headlong flight.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:12
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zone posted:They're currently on guard on the road to Moscow. If they meet, it'll probably be a fight. Though given the crazy poo poo that's already happened, maybe the comedy option is Kadyrov and Pigozhin joining forces. Yeah, I don't think anyone in Russia would be okay with Kadyrov being in charge, regardless of what TikTok Rambo thinks. But if he plays kingmaker for Prigozhin, that's a lot of power right there, much more than a regional leader is ostensibly supposed to have.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:14
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Oh well I guess Putin has shown his hand. I guess it's just up to how many loyal soldiers Pution has around Moscow these days. I see Kadyrov as an opportunist who will support Putin to start but if it looks like Prigozhin's chances are higher than 0 he might see an opportunity for advancement.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:14
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ronya posted:so, it's march on Moscow or death now, then Realtalk, Russia operates on some slightly different rules than countries you may be used to. A certain amount of, let's say, rowdiness is tolerated among the boyars so long as they don't threaten to topple over the ship. Prigozhin has been yelling for attention for quite some time now, but he'd been operating within the acceptable limits of what Russian authoritarian systems are willing to tolerate. Now, however, he has crossed a fatal line. The Kremlin has now "taken notice" of him. And in Russian history, when The State takes notice of you actively, you're hosed. Prigozhin wanted attention for Wagner, he wanted attention for himself and supplies, and for his fighters, and to improve his own standing. Well, he got that attention, at last. Except he went too far. Now the State has Noticed him. And in this context, when you are Noticed, you are considered a threat to the tsar. And like all threats to the tsar's power, the reaction will be the same as it has been historically for hundreds of years. Prigozhin will get no quarter at this point. The difference between now and when the Duma was shelled in 1993 is that Yeltsin was more or less forced to accommodate this as part of his deal to hold on power. Putin has power absolute; he can only be dislodged by dying or through mass military overthrow. Yeltsin by comparison was in a much, much weaker position. To quote GRRM (that absolute FUCKER), "When you play the Game of Thrones, you either win or you die" - hot dog man crossed that line
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Jun 24, 2023 08:14
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GABA ghoul posted:What easy options out does he have though. If he orders to fire on Wagner this moves into completely unpredictable territory where anything could happen. There is no turning back from that. I can absolutely understand the hesitation to make that choice. "Good news and bad news, Mr. Putin. Good news is, Russian soldiers are being welcomed as liberators..."
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Jun 24, 2023 08:14
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This is going about as well as that submarine.
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Jun 24, 2023 08:15
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I said from the beginning that PMCs were a bad idea. Nobody listens to ol’ Gasmask
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