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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Torrannor posted:

Really? How has the MoD not cleared out just 100 Wagner mercenaries out of Rostov?
Seems like the grunts might be flipping towards Wagner

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1672429891499749376

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672435905720614913

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672439458547785729?s=20

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Arrath
Apr 14, 2011



To properly set the sound stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyxseq59YQ

Dalmuti
Apr 8, 2007
i can't believe that delta sqad pulled this off

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?


You appear to have linked the wrong iteration of hell march:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUWUtTZvK4

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1672463016586014720

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Spoggerific posted:

Yeah, that makes sense. I think I'll just stay away from Twitter since I'm just too dumb to filter the bullshit out from the few useful sources. Sorry for being a reactionary idiot.
Nah, a reactionary idiot wouldn't have been intellectually curious enough to sincerely put the topic up for critique, much less heed any contrary feedback. Probably be more judicious about your info sources, but I don't think folks here are going to yell at you for engaging in good faith.

At this point, the fog of war is heavy and there's a lot of hearsay everywhere, so engaging with a healthy skepticism is the right approach.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Duzzy Funlop posted:

You appear to have linked the wrong iteration of hell march:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUWUtTZvK4

They both fuckin slap.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

If this is true, it's wild. It seems like Wagner really is in control of Rostov, with at least some non-Wagner military forces (regular army/national guard) joining them.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Oh hey, Ukraine thread got 150 new posts, we talking about recipes or dogs or something?

Oh.

OH.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1672468948141391874

Does he have nukes?

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1672434767638437888

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Putin should probably take a leaf from Ukraine's book and drop some bombs on the Rostov military HQ.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Herstory Begins Now posted:

bunch of words from an account that is pretty much a media outlet for ru air force that conveys quite a vibe



'no one is dying for prigozhin' 'absolutely no one at all is dying for shoigu'

Ukraine Thread: and it turns out that all this, bitch, is a joke

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1672476452292263936

Volkova III
Jan 5, 2021

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

what tom clancy book covered this eventuality

honestly I think the first Ghost Recon???

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers






holy moly

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1672482662433341440?cxt=HHwWgIC2tdmH7bUuAAAA

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Kesper North posted:

We have zero way of knowing if that video is authentic, tbh

Activate Corps Diplomatique

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.
Isint “Russian Ultra Nationalists seize power and threaten with nukes” like the plot of half a dozen late 90s techno thrillers?

And now we get to see it play out in real life.

ArmyGroup303
Apr 10, 2004

If this were real life, I would have piloted this helicopter with you still in it.

davecrazy posted:

Isint “Russian Ultra Nationalists seize power and threaten with nukes” like the plot of half a dozen late 90s techno thrillers?

And now we get to see it play out in real life.

Early Hans Zimmer soundtracks were bangers then and are bangers now.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Dalmuti posted:

i can't believe that delta sqad pulled this off



Proof

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

The thing is even if this all ends very quickly, the reaction of regimes like Putin's to coup attempts is never pretty. It's not going to be 'well that was silly, we're all friends again'. There's going to be rounds of purges as first the explicitly disloyal go, and then they start looking at anyone who looked like they were waiting to see which way the wind was blowing before siding with the regime.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Hey the Russian cosmonauts were busy dumping poo poo into space today


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9GYyEiqfeo

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
you know this doesn't seem to be losing momentum

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





If MOD units are flipping to support Wagner its pretty much the opposite of slowing down

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Putin apparently speaking soon.

JudgeJoeBrown
Mar 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672488251288944640?s=20

Fighterbomber confirming multiple helos downed by Wagner so far. When they confirm a loss its pretty much a guaranteed accurate figure.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Going to be interesting to see what he has to say, because he cannot stay silent about this and this will determine whether Prigozhin is swinging from a rope by tomorrow morning or not.

I'm sure Putin is aware that Shoigu is incompetent, and Prigozhin did deliver Bakhmut to Russia, but I don't see Putin saying "Yeah Shoigu's gotta go", much more likely he declares Prigozhin an enemy of the state and orders the military to put him down.

Putin's power structure depends on the leader of the military being incompetent so that they can't come at him swinging and try to coup him, so he can't afford to have Shoigu whacked by Prigozhin.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

orange juche posted:

I'm sure Putin is aware that Shoigu is incompetent, and Prigozhin did deliver Bakhmut to Russia, but I don't see Putin saying "Yeah Shoigu's gotta go", much more likely he declares Prigozhin an enemy of the state and orders the military to put him down.

I think you're right, but lol what military does he plan on using?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



psydude posted:

I think you're right, but lol what military does he plan on using?

There's still plenty of military between Rostov and Moscow, and plenty of them are much more loyal to the MoD than anything Prig can promise them to flip them.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





holy gently caress he just admitted they've lost control of rostov on don

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
I'm not sure who there is currently that is capable of stopping a concerted wagner push on moscow who is also willing and prepared to die for shoigu's career. if the air force isn't willing to attack prigozhin and other security forces are doing nothing or even joining with wagner, then idk the mechanism exactly that leads to prigozhin hanging tomorrow.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Herstory Begins Now posted:

I'm not sure who there is currently that is capable of stopping a concerted wagner push on moscow who is also willing and prepared to die for shoigu's career. if the air force isn't willing to attack prigozhin and other security forces are doing nothing or even joining with wagner, then idk the mechanism exactly that leads to prigozhin hanging tomorrow.

They may not be willing to die for Shoigu's career but if Putin orders that the Russian military will put down the traitors, then they'll absolutely do that.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Putin saying that they're committing treason and that the military has been given orders to attack.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



1917 called they want their civil war back

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

psydude posted:

Putin saying that they're committing treason and that the military has been given orders to attack.

if russian air force starts earnestly throwing the kitchen sink at wagner then yeah things look very bad for him. if russian air force continues to largely sit this out, who knows where this ends.

So far they've done basically gently caress all

on that note:

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jun 24, 2023

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
the wagner columms are intermingled with civiloan traffic so its not easy to bomb them

and also look like any other rrussian military column

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006
Rosgvardiya and the FSB are the only troops in the area. And both have been pretty depleted from supplying front line soldiers to Ukraine.

The mad lad might actually pull this off. A thunder run to Moscow.

(and this would be very, very bad. Putin is an amoral dictator. Prigozhin is a literal monster.)

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





I just cannot believe that I just saw Vladimir Putin admit that he has lost control of a major city


What the living gently caress is going on

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

With any luck, it'll end up like the climax of The Departed.

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Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Can't wait for the future video montage of what's going down right now set to "Summer is Ending" by Kino.

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