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Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

cant cook creole bream posted:

Wait what? I'm confused by this conversation now.
Nevermind all that.

It's possible I quoted you by accident? Idk don't worry about?

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
I'd have thought in war special military operation "don't give all your best weapons to a mercenary army of psychopaths and criminals loyal to one man (who isn't you)" was a given, but I'm not a former KGB agent and leader of the Russian Federation.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
I don't know enough about what's going on to make the new thread myself, but I think a new thread is in order.

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


People on Chinese social media saying dumb poo poo is such a weird thing to report on. It'd be like the news reporting "people on US social media are saying trump really won the 2020 presidential election"

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Beartaco posted:

It seems like some serious stuff is going down in Russia. It might be worth starting a new thread.

The Ukraine invasion is deeply connected with the state of Russia. This coup attempt wouldn't have started without Putin bungling the invasion, and likewise the invasion probably will be heavily influenced by the length and outcome of the coup attempt. It would be a bad idea to separate these two topics in different threads.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Torrannor posted:

The Ukraine invasion is deeply connected with the state of Russia. This coup attempt wouldn't have started without Putin bungling the invasion, and likewise the invasion probably will be heavily influenced by the length and outcome of the coup attempt. It would be a bad idea to separate these two topics in different threads.

I think a new Russian civil war deserves its own thread.

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/RikardJozwiak/status/1672544151760433152

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Not sure who this is but Putin not knowing what to do sounds about right: https://twitter.com/albats/status/1672536586431627264

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

a7m2 posted:

People on Chinese social media saying dumb poo poo is such a weird thing to report on. It'd be like the news reporting "people on US social media are saying trump really won the 2020 presidential election"

If a large enough segment of the population truly believes that, of course that's worth reporting on.

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004

cant cook creole bream posted:

What's the most ridiculous outcome you can't fully rule out? I'd say Prigoschin reaches Moscow and Putin feels forced to deploy a tactical nuke. He was pretty adamant that he'd use nukes if a war would force him too...

Priggo calls Biden and offers to hand over 95+% of Russian nukes and all of Ukraines territory, except Sevastopol and a guarantee for usage of its rail lines to the mainland.
All non-miltech sanctions get dropped. A dozen or two officers go to The Hague for war crimes.

Biden signs on the spot and is reelected as the czar of nuclear disarmament.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Oldsmobile posted:

Not sure who this is but Putin not knowing what to do sounds about right: https://twitter.com/albats/status/1672536586431627264

I'm sure this random guy on twitter has all the scoops on what's going on at Kremlin

Vaginaface
Aug 26, 2013

HEY REI HEY REI,
do vaginaface!
Have Navalny's people made any statements yet? I can't imagine Prigozhin likes him any more then Putin does

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
And throughout it all, Glenn Greenwald insists it is actually bad for Biden.

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1672552609733910531

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1672560400615763971

Blow
Feb 10, 2004

I think this situation may have occurred before in Africa.

CSM
Jan 29, 2014

56th Motorized Infantry 'Mariupol' Brigade
Seh' die Welt in Trummern liegen

Funky See Funky Do posted:

People allegedly feeding from Rostov's city centre.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1672558156864536578
I guess Putin is bombing Prigozhin's new HQ.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

steinrokkan posted:

I'm sure this random guy on twitter has all the scoops on what's going on at Kremlin

albats
@albats

Russia, Ph.D. in polsci Harvard U, author The State Within A State.KGB and Its Hold on Russia: Past, Present, and Future

I'm going to guess he has a decent idea. Maybe not 100% but at least understands the dynamics better than we do

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Oldsmobile posted:

Not sure who this is but Putin not knowing what to do sounds about right: https://twitter.com/albats/status/1672536586431627264

:lol:

"They will just surrender soon right? Right?!" :shepface:

"Sir may be should start counter attacking, we can see them from the Kremlin"

"Do anything against my orders and I will have you shot :commissar:"

GREAT LEADERSHIP :thumbsup:

Barudak
May 7, 2007

When the tail of the dog wagners the dog

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672562059257556996

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010


Love to see it

YerDa Zabam
Aug 13, 2016




Fuckin performative boot licking, ugh

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1672521408629420033

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1672553782167650304

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Funky See Funky Do posted:

People allegedly feeding from Rostov's city centre.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1672558156864536578

This is great actually. That was a hub for the war in Ukraine. Great news for Ukrainian soldiers.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Barudak posted:

When the tail of the dog wagners the dog

he's got that dog in 'em

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Nelson Mandingo posted:

This is great actually. That was a hub for the war in Ukraine. Great news for Ukrainian soldiers.
Seems like a a good time to revisit Bilhorod.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



HonorableTB posted:

Last post then bed for me, it's the full translation of Putin's speech:

speeches that you have to make when you're winning lol

"Exactly this strike was dealt in 1917 when the country was in WW1, but its victory was stolen. Intrigues, and arguments behind the army’s back turned out to be the greatest catastrophe, destruction of the army and the state, loss of huge territories, resulting in a tragedy and a civil war."

Wait, is this the current Russian narrative about Russia in World War I? I realize that's not the most salient point right now, but it's pretty wild if this is what they're taught. Because holy poo poo that's putting some spin on things!

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

steinrokkan posted:

I'm sure this random guy on twitter has all the scoops on what's going on at Kremlin

:shrug: There sure doesn't seem to be a lot of doing something, so leadership paralysis seems like a good bet.

Trying to imagine a U.S. army mutiny driving towards Washington with the stated goal of overthrowing the Pentagon and going 12 hours with only a couple helicopters poking at it one or two at a time.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Remember when the Chuds were bleating about how the US should have a STRONK MANLY Military like Russia?

:hmbol:

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


beer_war posted:

If a large enough segment of the population truly believes that, of course that's worth reporting on.

So what percentage of the Chinese population believes that? Or even gives a gently caress at all?

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
lol must have a babysitter

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1672521927422877696

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Adolf Glitter posted:

Fuckin performative boot licking, ugh

It's not completely impossible they're being greeted as liberators. [/Shitpost]


No seriously what the gently caress is happening :psyduck:
For those who remember, is this how the USSR fall felt?

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



the holy poopacy posted:

:shrug: There sure doesn't seem to be a lot of doing something, so leadership paralysis seems like a good bet.

Trying to imagine a U.S. army mutiny driving towards Washington with the stated goal of overthrowing the Pentagon and going 12 hours with only a couple helicopters poking at it one or two at a time.

We saw the best that US separatists/ terrorists could do on January 6th

Within an hour of the order they were neutralized

Lmao at "World Power" Russia

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jun 24, 2023

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

a7m2 posted:

So what percentage of the Chinese population believes that? Or even gives a gently caress at all?

I have no idea. Do you?

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
So Wagner is waging civil war against the Putin government, where do they stand on the war in Ukraine?

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

lomzus posted:

lol must have a babysitter

And if the pilots decide to attack Wagner anyway, what is the babysitter going to do? Shoot the pilot?

lomzus
Mar 18, 2009
https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1672545272377798657

https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1672554864713318400

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Omobono posted:

It's not completely impossible they're being greeted as liberators. [/Shitpost]


No seriously what the gently caress is happening :psyduck:
For those who remember, is this how the USSR fall felt?

I think this is more how the USSR started.

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010

steinrokkan posted:

I'm sure this random guy on twitter has all the scoops on what's going on at Kremlin

Yevgenia Albats is one of the top (still alive) investigative reporters of Russia

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Dead forum user
Oct 1, 2021

TulliusCicero posted:

We saw the best that US separatists could do on January 6th

Within an hour of the order they were neutralized

Lmao at "World Power" Russia

To be fair, the chuds didn't have a bunch of actual tanks and anti-aircraft systems

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