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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

beer_war posted:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1672380197167874049?s=20

This is GG's last tweet. Other pro-Z scumbags like Aaron Maté and Max Blumenthal are also still figuring out how to spin this. Maybe they didn't get the usual memo from St. Petersburg?

By this logic, Michael Tracey isn't an official paid mouthpiece because he didn't wait for further instructions from Moscow.

He really is just that stupid.

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Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Mikojan posted:

I want to believe there is a non zero chance RUAF and wagner completely obliterate eachother, putin flees to north Korea and zelensky stumbles into russia and unifies the country as Nova Ukraina to stabilize this poo poo show

Once Zelensky unites Ukraines of all colors, he can reforge Kyivan Rus' Gauntlet

cynic
Jan 19, 2004



lol get hosed Putin you motile chunk of dung

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

but yeah as much as it's cathartic seeing putin tremble in his boots, I don't, in fact, got to hand it to the Wagner turbonazi threatening to seize power

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Warm und Fuzzy posted:

That's it's not cruel enough. His endgame is probably to seize control of the MoD, conscript a million Russians and march back into the Ukraine.

Iirc at one point he said Russia had accomplished enough, and didn’t need to advance further to claim victory.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Chocobo posted:

Just so I'm on the right page, are we cheering for the nazi or the dictator in this conflict? I the nazi wins, nazis are back. If the dictator wins, he'll probably have to acknowledge that the Ukraine thing just isn't going to happen? Which is the lesser evil?

It's this situation.




e: to be precise: in regards to the war in Ukraine, everything that keeps Russian armed force distracted from bombing hospitals is good.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.
Oops, looks like we might be going to need someone to denazify Russia. The Ukrainian army, perhaps?

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
:sadwave:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672572380122607618/photo/1

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1672572730833551361

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

Runa posted:

By this logic, Michael Tracey isn't an official paid mouthpiece because he didn't wait for further instructions from Moscow.

He really is just that stupid.

To be clear, I don't actually believe GG or the Grayzone bois are being paid by Russia.

Autisanal Cheese
Nov 29, 2010

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Chocobo posted:

Just so I'm on the right page, are we cheering for the nazi or the dictator in this conflict? I the nazi wins, nazis are back. If the dictator wins, he'll probably have to acknowledge that the Ukraine thing just isn't going to happen? Which is the lesser evil?

The absolute best outcome for Ukraine would be Prigozhin does well enough they have to pull soldiers out of Ukraine, effectively ending the war. And then he loses.

And then Putin dies a few months later falling down stairs and making GBS threads himself on camera.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo

Warm und Fuzzy posted:

That's it's not cruel enough. His endgame is probably to seize control of the MoD, conscript a million Russians and march back into the Ukraine.

Jesus christ, so the ideology of this civil war is that the Ukranian war wasn't self-destructive enough?

Warm und Fuzzy
Jun 20, 2006

Rinkles posted:

Iirc at one point he said Russia had accomplished enough, and didn’t need to advance further to claim victory.

I'm glad to be wrong. The guy is legitimately scary.

Was Wagner doing the sledgehammer executions?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Runa posted:

By this logic, Michael Tracey isn't an official paid mouthpiece because he didn't wait for further instructions from Moscow.

He really is just that stupid.
Speaking of stupid,



Lord Stimperor posted:

It's this situation.




e: to be precise: in regards to the war in Ukraine, everything that keeps Russian armed force distracted from bombing hospitals is good.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

What point is this even trying to make?

America: bad :smuggo:

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/1672430881305407488

:hmmyes:

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

I'm getting the feeling of the Space Marine's coming towards Earth while Horus is about to drop his shields to invite the big E to come meet him.


Fortunately, the only golden throne that Putin can sit on, will not keep him alive for 10000 years.

Comstar fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Jun 24, 2023

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

beer_war posted:

To be clear, I don't actually believe GG or the Grayzone bois are being paid by Russia.

Oh the Grayzone people absolutely are, most of them are or have been contributors to RT.

Glenn Greenwald is just a contrarian along with being very dumb.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1672393066966142979?s=46&t=G1x8XWIwrNxUQoXItlkh2w


Where is Steve? Come out and fight you coward!

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Chocobo posted:

Just so I'm on the right page, are we cheering for the nazi or the dictator in this conflict? I the nazi wins, nazis are back. If the dictator wins, he'll probably have to acknowledge that the Ukraine thing just isn't going to happen? Which is the lesser evil?

No one

Hope they all destroy each other, Ukraine gets all its territory back, and someone helps every day Russian citizens rebuild an actual stable country.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672573439683567616

fullerene
Apr 29, 2022

TulliusCicero posted:

No one

Hope they all destroy each other, Ukraine gets all its territory back, and someone helps every day Russian citizens rebuild an actual stable country.

I remember reading an article about the low life expectancy among Russian men and it was really depressing poo poo, like, "we have nothing and no prospects so we just drink cheap vodka until we die of it" and I really really hope that something better comes for them in the very near future :smith:

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
https://twitter.com/Jackoboyse/status/1672573411208359936

Not confirmed anywhere else though.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672575623670185985

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
I get that Americans are self-centred and deeply unintelligent but can you stfu about your politics while this is going on?

Mikojan
May 12, 2010

Imagine being a mobnik and being rotated out of the frontline after some really loving depressing poo poo at the front, only for one of the most fuckign evil mercenary forces in the world marching towards moscow now passing by and giving you the option of fighting your own country or being executed

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Funky See Funky Do posted:

I get that Americans are self-centred and deeply unintelligent but can you stfu about your politics while this is going on?

As a geo-politics nerd I apologize for my shameful idiot country where the "opposition" "party" claims that this is in fact a massive distraction by Biden to distract from his son's boring tax evasion charges and his huge hog

I take no pleasure in reporting this

What is the endgame for Putin here? Hide in the Urals for the rest of his life?

Would he ever stoop so long low and get so desperate as the request help from NATO? Because lmao that would be hilarious

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

They would say this of course, it's basic propaganda. Whether it's true is something we can't tell right now.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



From Meduza:

quote:

Residents of Moscow and the Moscow region have reported receiving calls from unfamiliar numbers with messages from Wagner Group, according to journalist Farida Rustamova.

One person said the caller played the recording of Yevgeny Prigozhin’s statement in which the mercenary leader vowed to “restore justice.”

Another person heard a message from a “robotic male voice” that suggested he join Wagner Group and claimed its units were advancing on Moscow.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.



Hey, free soldiers!

I have no idea what direction this is going, this is fuckin' bizarre.

MegaZeroX
Dec 11, 2013

"I'm Jack Frost, ho! Nice to meet ya, hee ho!"



Torrannor posted:

They would say this of course, it's basic propaganda. Whether it's true is something we can't tell right now.

of course, but propoganda and rumors are largely what we have. I would hope that most people in this thread would take Prigozhin's statements with a big grain of salt of course

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

Youth Decay posted:

Oh the Grayzone people absolutely are, most of them are or have been contributors to RT.

I stand corrected.

Speaking about pro-Z shitheads, here's German-born "journalist" Alina Lipp after a severe copium overdose:

quote:

I'm walking through Rostov and everything is normal here. I just wanted to clarify that this is not a coup, as some channels reported initially. I, too, used that word. But of course Wagner is pro-Russian, they want Russia to win and so is the MoD. So this is a military, um, internal war, you could call it and, um, we've seen a video where Prigozhin is talking to someone from the MoD and, um, it was a civil conversation. They didn't arrest him or want to kill him or anything. So, the hope is that they'll agree on something, so all the... inconsistencies happening at the front are taken care of. So, uh, just as as clarification.

https://twitter.com/CNathusius/status/1672531093755666432?s=20

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Seems like Putin is hightailing it out of Moscow, which is not a good look:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672572380122607618

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672570570838294529

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672575672869371907

Autisanal Cheese
Nov 29, 2010

MegaZeroX posted:

From Meduza:

This must have been months in the preparation.

And nobody in the Kremlin had any loving idea?

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

TulliusCicero posted:

As a geo-politics nerd I apologize for my shameful idiot country where the "opposition" "party" claims that this is in fact a massive distraction by Biden to distract from his son's boring tax evasion charges and his huge hog

I take no pleasure in reporting this

What is the endgame for Putin here? Hide in the Urals for the rest of his life?

Would he ever stoop so long low and get so desperate as the request help from NATO? Because lmao that would be hilarious

An endgame means he made some kind of plan should today ever have happened. If he has made that I haven't seen anyone report one what it might be beyond the "operation fortress".

What I assume or guess given what I know about history is that today is as much of a surprise to him as it is to us.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

General guy on why Ukraineprobably can't/ won't leverage the chaos immediately
https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status/1672576319085858816?t=rtl0YGpFHCLpDp1-VGRBUg&s=19
https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status/1672576322101444611?t=9sOYEqlea3LO6QzRC3-1FQ&s=19

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Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

beer_war posted:

I stand corrected.

Speaking about pro-Z shitheads, here's German-born "journalist" Alina Lipp after a severe copium overdose:

https://twitter.com/CNathusius/status/1672531093755666432?s=20

Haha

“How stupid can you be? Alina Lipp, a Putin propagandist: YES!”

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