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smooth jazz posted:sorry. 
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Q_res posted:Absolute lunacy. Worst looking mid-engine car on the market by a country mile. Ferrari still sells cars, sir.
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They are not beautiful imo, but the base C8 w/Z51 and magnetic ride is a solid deal, I don't think there are many cars more capable than that for $75k. They are available without markup if you're willing to wait, there are a handful of high volume dealers that sell them with no shenanigans. The Z06 is incredible too.
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I could be remembering this through nostalgia glasses, but I dont remember Z51 being so expensive on previous gens. (Inflation too I guess, blah blah) Z51 is $6345 now. Plus $1895 for Magna. That pushes my previous C5, C6 C7 same option builds into the $80s which sucks.
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Someone on my commute has a new Camaro SS and I gotta say, I had no idea how much better the front end looks vs. the base trim. Now I want one. I don't have the traditional enlistment bonus and 26% APR accoutrement but a Camaro works as a mid life crisis car doesn't it?
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It’s as good as any https://twitter.com/BoziTatarevic/status/1668064115573547009/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1668064115573547009¤tTweetUser=BoziTatarevic
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bij posted:Someone on my commute has a new Camaro SS and I gotta say, I had no idea how much better the front end looks vs. the base trim. Now I want one. Depends on if you like being able to see out of said mid life crisis car.
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bij posted:Someone on my commute has a new Camaro SS and I gotta say, I had no idea how much better the front end looks vs. the base trim. Now I want one. The Camaro is probably the least popular of the big 3 pony cars, so there's a chance you might find one without stupid markups.
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Franco Caution posted:Depends on if you like being able to see out of said mid life crisis car. Yeah, this is a concern. Neo_Crimson posted:The Camaro is probably the least popular of the This too. It seems like they shook the spiders out of the reliability issues at least
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no lube so what posted:It’s as good as any If you ain’t first you’re last
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Just lol at VW and Audi changing their logos just as the sans serif trend is dying.   Now they have to own that for the next decade or so.
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smooth jazz posted:Just lol at VW and Audi changing their logos just as the sans serif trend is dying. Maybe I'm nostalgic for my youth but i prefer the parallel lines logo fiat used in the eighties  rather than the historical ornate ones  or the lame one currently used 
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SlowBloke posted:Maybe I'm nostalgic for my youth but i prefer the parallel lines logo fiat used in the eighties
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ilkhan posted:That's an air vent. That would be downright luxurious compared to the shelf tray of doom interior  This is how the panda looked with that logo 
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smooth jazz posted:Just lol at VW and Audi changing their logos just as the sans serif trend is dying. That logo change for VW happened three years ago
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My dealer has been trying to sell me a Hellcat Durango for a week now. Aparently they can’t move it.
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I went t test drive an A6 Allroad at the local Audi store like 6 months ago and they've been sending me weekly updates on this 2021 C8 Corvette they're trying to unload? It's down to the low $80s now. Weird.
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Current interest rates have made the monthly payments on 5 year leases and 96 month financings difficult for a lot of people.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:That logo change for VW happened three years ago The past 3 years have been a bit of a blur lol
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smooth jazz posted:The past 3 years have been a bit of a blur lol It is currently March 1209th, 2020, right?!
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Mr. Apollo posted:Current interest rates have made the monthly payments on 5 year leases and 96 month financings difficult for a lot of people. Then why won’t the dealer sell me a car!?
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davecrazy posted:My dealer has been trying to sell me a Hellcat Durango for a week now. Aparently they can’t move it. Used cayenne turbos are all the rage these days
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davecrazy posted:My dealer has been trying to sell me a Hellcat Durango for a week now. Aparently they can’t move it. Found that to be surprising, I assumed they were still unobtanium without big markups, so I had a look and astonishingly my local dealer has one, which is really really surprising because they're tiny and I don't think I've ever even seen a regular SRT Durango sitting in stock there. Doesn't matter though, $108k MSRP!?!
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Elem7 posted:Found that to be surprising, I assumed they were still unobtanium without big markups, so I had a look and astonishingly my local dealer has one, which is really really surprising because they're tiny and I don't think I've ever even seen a regular SRT Durango sitting in stock there. Doesn't matter though, $108k MSRP!?! If I'm paying $100k for an unreliable piece of poo poo is going to be Italian not American
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Nohearum posted:If I'm paying $100k for an unreliable piece of poo poo is going to be Italian not American I have some news about Chrysler these days!
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Elem7 posted:Found that to be surprising, I assumed they were still unobtanium without big markups, so I had a look and astonishingly my local dealer has one, which is really really surprising because they're tiny and I don't think I've ever even seen a regular SRT Durango sitting in stock there. Doesn't matter though, $108k MSRP!?! The big diffence between the ‘21 and the ‘23 are the upgraded headliner and Hellcat logo on the seat backs is missing on the ‘23s. The rest is the same best I can tell. Seems nuts to me that it’s a 10k price increase from ‘21 but you get a few things that are less “premium” then the cheaper ‘21.
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Someone please convince Mazda to give the Miata some more awesome colors.
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Sab669 posted:https://www.media.stellantis.com/uk-en/fiat/press/goodbye-grey-welcome-colours Oh look, the sister car to mine, which hasn't been product launched while ads are running daily...
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phosdex posted:Someone please convince Mazda to give the Miata some more awesome colors. Mazda can't afford it.
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Soul Red is the entire reason you buy a Mazda, even though it chips easily and is a pain in the rear end to respray. Artisan Red is a nice looking color but it’s really more of a burgundy color. My hope is that Mazda will do a green that’s similar to Soul Red. Mazda’s current color stable is something like: Jet Black Mica (bleh) White (either the Snowflake or the Toyota-derived Wind Chill one) Machine Gray (A medium metallic gray that I find extremely boring) Polymetal Gray (really more of a desaturated blue that a lot of manufacturers seem to be doing. Changes hue depending on lighting conditions) Platinum Quartz (a very light white-tan color, it actually looks neat on CX-30 and MZ3 hatch) Zircon Sand (on some models, a military beige color. Very strange that they’re painting Miatas in this color) The only actual colors: Soul Red Crystal (the only actual color of the bunch) Deep Blue Crystal (It’s a dark Navy Blue, not distinctive) Artisan Red (reddish maroon/red wine color).
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My Polymetal Grey ND2 looks fabulous when it’s clean, and like an Amazon van when it’s dirty. Also, Soul Red seems to have many variations. I’ve seen some instances where it looks poo poo, and some where it’s clearly the best color ever. Since I’ve seen such differences on the exact same model of car, my guess is the day-to-day variation in the factory booth is to blame.
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Since I’ve seen such differences on the exact same model of car, my guess is the day-to-day variation in the factory booth is to blame. Given the Mazda factory sits next to the ocean, that would make sense.
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kefkafloyd posted:Soul Red is the entire reason you buy a Mazda, even though it chips easily and is a pain in the rear end to respray. Excuse me, Laguna Seca Blue is also amazing.
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