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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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just a few more humiliations and ukraine will get the ticking warscore bonus and then they can force a peace deal. absolutely incredible strategy on display here
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Jun 25, 2023 22:11
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the belarusian drum&bass track that's been haunting me for like a month prepared me well for the idea of batka saving the day
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Jun 25, 2023 22:11
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Jun 25, 2023 22:14
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Regarde Aduck posted:compared to the other threads that was nothing. It was an empty tank exploding in the distance and we have no way of knowing if anyone was killed other than the shockwave was pretty big it's not about other threads it's about what regular posters itt have been saying. the feedback is coming from inside the thread. anyways if people posted some of the poo poo they do in "other threads" here it would be received poorly to say the least
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Jun 25, 2023 22:15
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, it’s an entire oblast and a Manpad isn’t going to hit that high and I don’t think I saw them setting up an entire SAM system. how do u think it got shot down
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Jun 25, 2023 22:16
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:there are plenty of videos and reports showing the size of the convoy heading toward moscow, etc. prig kept on saying 25k but all the reports seemed to estimate about 5k each in the two forces. if it was just several hundred men Putin would not have bothered negotiating. You realize how loving stupid that sounds right? We've got a bunch of videos from social media with no way to really tell how many of them could be repeated sightings, or using old footage to say its happening. The whole Ukriane war has been an abject lesson in how useless OSINT is for anytbing thats not propaganda. Even 5k guys seems a bit much, like he just able.to get 1/5 of Wagner to just roll into Rostov to to get some Mcgriddles and the only actions between the Ukrianian border and Rostov was one helicopter getting shot down?
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Jun 25, 2023 22:17
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it only took, what, like 1500 ISIS guys to capture Mosul? a city of more than a million people at the time, with 60,000 nominal defenders. turns out when one side really doesn’t want to fight it doesn’t matter how big the other side is. the MOD could very likely have slaughtered the Prigozhin Pals on the way up but doing so would have been much more costly than negotiating them down. it’s sort of irrevocable. they showed pretty admirable restraint all things considered.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:19
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Raskolnikov38 posted:yes how foolish of Russia to not… carpet bomb a civilian highway filled with civilians Thats the difference between incompetent authoritarian Russian military leadership, and freedom loving American generals
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Jun 25, 2023 22:21
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OctaMurk posted:how do u think it got shot down it just did tabht
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Jun 25, 2023 22:23
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went grocery shopping today and the tabloid headlines where all like UPRISING IN RUSSIA and EXPERT: THIS IS HOW THE CIVIL WAR STARTS lol
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Jun 25, 2023 22:26
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Wonder what this event will have on the growth of PMCs globally. Last time a PMC was on an MSM rotation was back in the early 2000s with Blackwater taking pop shots at civilians from their hummer as they pinned it through the streets of Afghanistan. Suprise though, that becomes such a PR crisis that you'll end up changing your business name 3, maybe even 4 times since said event. This is the first time in my 36 years we're getting coverage of actual mercenary groups that isn't due to a war crime committed. This morning I've been able to find at least 7 notable PMCs operating openly in this conflict. Does anyone have a list or know where I can find a proper database that documents active PMCs in general across the globe? With no external threat to our livelihood they're is going to be a recruitment surge from the West. So.. neat. 96 spacejam has issued a correction as of 23:46 on Jun 25, 2023 |
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Jun 25, 2023 22:40
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insane clown pussy posted:they're making fun of american operator culture there You can't "ironically" enjoy a thing. Once you're wearing the gear, the Oakleys, and the operator beard it's not a joke anymore. It's closer to the way that the US Military names stuff after native Americans.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:40
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96 spacejam posted:This morning I've been able to find at least 7 notable PMCs operating openly in this conflict. Could you share your list
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Jun 25, 2023 22:44
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OctaMurk posted:how do u think it got shot down Considering its location, it could have been anything from an accident, unrelated friendly fire, or something else entirely. DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:it only took, what, like 1500 ISIS guys to capture Mosul? a city of more than a million people at the time, with 60,000 nominal defenders. turns out when one side really doesn’t want to fight it doesn’t matter how big the other side is. To make that theory possible, you would have to believe absolutely no one in the Russian military cares about the fate of the government and the public has entirely given up to the point that a couple hundred mercs can come in unopposed. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 22:48 on Jun 25, 2023 |
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Jun 25, 2023 22:44
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lmao
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Jun 25, 2023 22:45
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Ardennes posted:Considering its location, it could have been anything from an accident, unrelated friendly fire, or something else entirely. the ghost of macho man randy savage body slammed it
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Jun 25, 2023 22:47
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Cerebral Bore posted:just a few more humiliations and ukraine will get the ticking warscore bonus and then they can force a peace deal. absolutely incredible strategy on display here Didn't you read the article about Russia not occupying the war goal? Ukraine already has ticking war score!
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Jun 25, 2023 22:50
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speng31b posted:the ghost of macho man randy savage body slammed it YOU STAY AWAY FROM MISS ELIZABETH RUSSIAN AIRBORNE COMMAND POST OR ILL SNAP YOU INTO A SLIMJIM AAHHHH
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Jun 25, 2023 22:50
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speng31b posted:the ghost of macho man randy savage body slammed it The location cited was like 60km from the highway.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:51
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All this talk of "wow putin didn't even demand the execution of prighozen or begin a full military assault on the convoy, how weak!" seems absurd because if there really were enough troops to cause a huge problem, with enough weaponry, which it seems like there was, then backing them into a corner, giving them no way out, and beginning a full out attack is a sure fire way to make sure they didn't just (mostly) peacefully turn around after getting some maccas. You have to give people an out unless you're trying to push them into confrontations. So putin was weak and didn't bomb them and demand prig's head, but they also all went home and prighozen was willing to end it because he wasn't left without options but to keep fighting. I'm not saying putin is some master strategist (unless somehow this was all the most insane 218th dimentional chess loving psyop ever done in the world and the shot down planes were just a by product of itchy trigger finger mercs not in on it), because frankly this should never have happened in a well ran country, but he absolutely handled it once it began in the best way possible by deescalating. Maybe so many liberals are just used to US police pushing every last person into a corner to cause conflict and chases, and expect FORCE AND POWER are how everything should be solved.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:52
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Chillgamesh posted:support our troops I want one ngl
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Jun 25, 2023 22:54
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It could just be as simple as no one really wanted to fight people that they saw as on their side.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:54
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speng31b posted:the ghost of macho man randy savage body slammed it Hey Il-22... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxY2Tz6spE
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Jun 25, 2023 22:56
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Didn't you read the article about Russia not occupying the war goal? Ukraine already has ticking war score! No ticking war score in HoI.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:56
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96 spacejam posted:Wonder what this event will have on the growth of PMCs globally. Last time a PMC was on an MSM rotation was back in the early 2000s with Blackwater taking pop shots at civilians from their hummer as they pinned it through the streets of Afghanistan. Suprise though, that becomes such a PR crisis that you'll end up changing your business name 3, maybe even 4 times since said event. I must have a half dozen books on liberal theories of war and the problem is that: 1) They can't conscript mass armies 2) They have eroded all of the things that cause people to volunteer as Regulars 3) Neither of the above is ultimately acceptable to them because their relationship with civil society requires casualty avoidance so they had to turn to PMC. Only that hasn't worked out great for them either and is expected not to work at all in high intensity conflicts. So, you know, more liberalism.txt Pener Kropoopkin posted:You can't "ironically" enjoy a thing. Once you're wearing the gear, the Oakleys, and the operator beard it's not a joke anymore. It's closer to the way that the US Military names stuff after native Americans. I would compare it more to the Indian and French items of clothing that have entered the British Army. Jodhpurs, bearskin hats, sashes.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:56
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Surely an even more nationalist leadership will make the country easier to balkanize! 
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Jun 25, 2023 22:57
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axelord posted:It could just be as simple as no one really wanted to fight people that they saw as on their side. That's pretty much it. Once the orders had come down to stop the traitors it was basically over. If somehow the plot was hatched in Moscow before taking Rostov & Voronezh, then they could've gotten pretty far unopposed.
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Jun 25, 2023 22:57
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Jun 25, 2023 22:58
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Jun 25, 2023 22:58
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1670885689229996049?cxt=HHwWosCz7c_rlrAuAAAA Catalonian Sam Seder looking guy
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Jun 25, 2023 22:59
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Half of the French Army still dresses like Arabs and Berbers. Spahis, zouaves, Chasseurs d'Afrique.
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Jun 25, 2023 23:01
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BearsBearsBears posted:Could you share your list I just put the list together, I haven't started to deep dive into each which is what I plan to do this afternoon. Levels of involvement differ, of course, and I'm not in the Telegrams nor can engage with cyrillic so Im going off Google News reports of members officially being in RU. Slavonic Corps Moran Security Group Redut/Antiterrorism - I believe Redut is the official name, some have been convicted of war crimes already. Not sure what that really means though. Specialized Tasks, Training, Equipment and Protection (STTEP) Sandline International - They may have been up front during initial invasion Dyck Advisory Group - These guys may be a subsidiary of Wagner for North Africa. Currently active but unsure if in RU E.N.O.T. Corp Once I get into my deep dive I'll come back with any proper updates. My initial feeling is that all of these groups take their orders from Wagner otherwise I'd imagine Operational Clusterfuck would be apt.
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Jun 25, 2023 23:02
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It isn’t an 3d chess move to have some mercs stand around, shoot a couple videos, and the go home, and if the government was going to draw a line, it would be before the mercs surrounded a military HQ. At no point there was even a real standoff. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 23:11 on Jun 25, 2023 |
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Jun 25, 2023 23:06
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Sandline. Huh, haven't heard that name in a long time.
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Jun 25, 2023 23:08
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Jun 25, 2023 23:08
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96 spacejam posted:I just put the list together, I haven't started to deep dive into each which is what I plan to do this afternoon. Levels of involvement differ, of course, and I'm not in the Telegrams nor can engage with cyrillic so Im going off Google News reports of members officially being in RU. missing rogue coyote, zero risk, no alert, a few others
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Jun 25, 2023 23:11
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Cuttlefush posted:missing rogue coyote, zero risk, no alert, a few others Thank you! Are you just aware of them or is there a nonprofit out there tracking movements or whatever? I could be talking out my rear end so apologies.
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Jun 25, 2023 23:12
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Thanks. I think you may be missing Shoigu's Patriot PMC.96 spacejam posted:Once I get into my deep dive I'll come back with any proper updates. My initial feeling is that all of these groups take their orders from Wagner otherwise I'd imagine Operational Clusterfuck would be apt. 96 spacejam posted:Moran Security Group 96 spacejam posted:Thank you! Are you just aware of them or is there a nonprofit out there tracking movements or whatever? I could be talking out my rear end so apologies.
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Jun 25, 2023 23:12
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96 spacejam posted:
lol, get a brain morans. Redut rear end war
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96 spacejam posted:I just put the list together, I haven't started to deep dive into each which is what I plan to do this afternoon. Levels of involvement differ, of course, and I'm not in the Telegrams nor can engage with cyrillic so Im going off Google News reports of members officially being in RU. Sandline is back? I thought they disbanded 20 years ago
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