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sometimes i rewatch the speed force scene and lol and lmao at the idea of joss/wb producers being like “yeah we gotta cut this can he just like push a truck or something” lmao
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It's a domino effect of cutting down Cyborg's role. If Cyborg doesn't have any of his family/backstory scenes, then there's no reason to give him the scene inside the motherboxes. If there's no motherbox scene, then there's no reason to power him up. If he's not going to be powered up, then there's no reason for Flash to be doing laps around the city to build the charge, and they have to give him something else to do.
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“I’m not broken, and I’m not alone” Yeah but what if, and I’m just spitballing here, he says, “Booyah!” instead?
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Jun 25, 2023 04:57
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Alexander Hamilton posted:“I’m not broken, and I’m not alone” But with gravitas, so we all know it's an emotional line!
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A lot of people are really thrown by Cyborg's whole arc being around him being disabled. I remember one essay that got really weird without seeming to get that metaphor, and described him as 'castrated'.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A lot of people are really thrown by Cyborg's whole arc being around him being disabled. I remember one essay that got really weird without seeming to get that metaphor, and described him as 'castrated'. Those are the same people who watched Starship Troopers and missed the fascism subtext.
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No, they are the people who got it was about fascism, but thought starship troopers had no relation to american empire. Now they are watching himars strikes with phonk music and thinking war is grand.
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People really don't know how to understand the idea of disabled people having feelings and agency of their own rather than being a prop for abled people.
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I know I'm on the tail end of this conversation and it's already in the rear view butt I have to say there's no need to dump on someone's post like this. Robot Style posted:It's a domino effect of cutting down Cyborg's role. If Cyborg doesn't have any of his family/backstory scenes, then there's no reason to give him the scene inside the motherboxes. If there's no motherbox scene, then there's no reason to power him up. If he's not going to be powered up, then there's no reason for Flash to be doing laps around the city to build the charge, and they have to give him something else to do. I really was stunned at how central to the movie's themes Flash and Cyborg's characters were in Snyder's movie, it made me hate Joss Whedon even more than I already did lol Also I don't know if it was intentional but I appreciated the extra struggle to break up the boxes compared to how in the first battle Zeus just like struts up to it and pulls them apart. Like the literal, actual gods are basically cheating levels of power even compared to the current Justice League. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jun 25, 2023 |
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Tankbuster posted:No, they are the people who got it was about fascism, but thought starship troopers had no relation to american empire. Now they are watching himars strikes with phonk music and thinking war is grand. We can't all listen to the Nibelung all day
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Not much what's Nibelung with you?
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Now that Chris Hemsworth and Zack Snyder are at Netflix, how long before they make a movie together? And how long afterwards before Hemsworth ask Feigie to make Zack direct the next Thor?
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I'm pretty sure Hemsworth is fully on-board with Taikia's slant.
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well why not posted:I'm pretty sure Hemsworth is fully on-board with Taikia's slant. Yeah IIRC Hemsworth is more for the comedic approach. I mean he's got genuine good timing with that stuff when it's done well (i.e., NOT most of Thor Ragnarok) but I get it. Maybe he can get Snyder to direct commercial/presentation for his fitness app or something. EDIT: Nothing against the app I never tried it myself, supposedly it's a really good selection of stuff.
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He actually did an interview a few weeks ago where he talked about how Thour got too silly and he wants to do something different with the character if he ever goes back. Basically said " even my kids thought it stunk so not doing that again"
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McCloud posted:He actually did an interview a few weeks ago where he talked about how Thour got too silly and he wants to do something different with the character if he ever goes back. Basically said " even my kids thought it stunk so not doing that again" https://variety.com/2023/film/news/chris-hemsworth-criticizes-thor-love-and-thunder-silly-1235634333/amp/ quote:”I think we just had too much fun. It just became too silly,” Hemsworth said about the movie. “It’s always hard being in the center of it and having any real perspective…I love the process, it’s always a ride. But you just don’t know how people are going to respond.”
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well why not posted:I'm pretty sure Hemsworth is fully on-board with Taikia's slant. Nope. Also he’s sorta retiring from acting because he may or may not develop Alzheimer’s
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CelticPredator posted:Nope. He refuted the idea of his retirement from acting earlier this month https://people.com/chris-hemsworth-his-genetic-predisposition-to-alzheimers-got-over-dramatized-7547163
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The humor in Ragnarok was definitely too much, but the movie had structural problems that had nothing to do with it. If you kill off Russel Crowe with a silly accent in the same scene you introduce him in, you got a problem.
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Grendels Dad posted:The humor in Ragnarok was definitely too much, but the movie had structural problems that had nothing to do with it. If you kill off Russel Crowe with a silly accent in the same scene you introduce him in, you got a problem. I think you're thinking of Love & Thunder, which had Crowe. And that movie feels like it was murdered in re-shoots and editing.
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Timby posted:I think you're thinking of Love & Thunder, which had Crowe. Yeah I was, sorry. That movie just wiped out any enthusiasm I had for upcoming Thor or Waititi projects. I actually liked Ragnarok quite a lot but Love & Thunder made it a lot worse for showing where that vibe would go.
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The promo video where taika shits on the VFX of his own movie at the same time there was a massive raise in awareness of vfx Artist struggles basically made me instantly lost all respect for him.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:The promo video where taika shits on the VFX of his own movie at the same time there was a massive raise in awareness of vfx Artist struggles basically made me instantly lost all respect for him. I'm pretty sure he did similar with props made during Ragnarok, that scene where Thor improvs in the armory.
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I keep seeing tweets like this: https://twitter.com/Gh0stAnd0r/status/1670556574400774144?s=20 and I'm like oh man I loving hate all these. I genuinely preferred the first suicide squad to the Gunn one.
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What the hell does “no Superman film has been a complete success save the original” mean
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James Gunn has basically made the same movie 4-5 times since hitting it real big, so I would hope for something, I dunno, a little more off the beaten path and a little less Guardians of the Galaxy 5. Like I don't think he'll make Superman an antisocial misfit, but lol, lmao if he does.
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Every time I see a photo of James Gunn I've forgotten he looks like a living soyjack
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Pirate Jet posted:What the hell does “no Superman film has been a complete success save the original” mean It means someone has an extremely high opinion of Superman And The Mole Men.
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If James Gunn made a Connor Kent as Superman, that would probably work out just fine.
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Aipsh posted:I keep seeing tweets like this:
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Aipsh posted:I keep seeing tweets like this: I feel that. But I was not a Snyder fan for the longest time either so I keep reminding myself of that and try to keep an open mind. But I really don't like Gunn's work.
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roffels posted:I feel that. But I was not a Snyder fan for the longest time either so I keep reminding myself of that and try to keep an open mind. But I really don't like Gunn's work. I like Gunn's work, with the exception of Guardian's 2, but I can't imagine his very specific tone working for Superman.
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I’m going in with an open mind. Zack Snyder wouldn’t have been making Superman movies forever, and even said something to the effect that they’re basically only borrowing the characters when they have them. That said, Gunn is far away from the last pick for Superman I would have chosen. A lot of (untrue) complaints about Snyder’s works are that they’re not comic accurate, mysteriously don’t get said about Gunn, who, so far, makes original characters using the skins of semi-obscure characters in his big Marvel and DC movies. I somehow don’t think his Superman film is going to be quite as scrutinized as Man of Steel was among certain extremely online types.
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Latent within every adaptation is the possibility of a good result. In recent years, the neo studio system has grown rancid and onanistic, especially in the superhero genre, but the flip side of WB's chaotic response to its hosed up and probably terminal business situation is that they might surprise us.
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Bongo Bill posted:Latent within every adaptation is the possibility of a good result. In recent years, the neo studio system has grown rancid and onanistic, especially in the superhero genre, but the flip side of WB's chaotic response to its hosed up and probably terminal business situation is that they might surprise us. Would you say that you have a fundamental belief in the potential of every adaptation to be a force for good? Is that what you're bringing us?
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PriorMarcus posted:I like Gunn's work, with the exception of Guardian's 2, but I can't imagine his very specific tone working for Superman. Detective No. 27 posted:I’m going in with an open mind. Zack Snyder wouldn’t have been making Superman movies forever, and even said something to the effect that they’re basically only borrowing the characters when they have them. Agree with both of these. The Guardians movies are great and have a lot of heart but they are very obviously about underdog misfits with a specific crass comedic tone that won't work for the specific character of Superman. My guess is we will have Jimmy Olsen and some of the supporting class making more of those types of jokes (Dave Bautista for Bizarro IMO). And yeah there's already a lot of people making every possible excuse for this movie that won't be out for 5 years. If Gunn turned in Man of Steel except color shifted and with ~5 more jokes the same people who hate Snyder would be weeping tears of joy over a new modern classic. That's just something I've come to terms with and I'm not going to blame Gunn himself for that.
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They should use the freakish Henry Cavil cgi model for Bizarro
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I watched Zack Snyder's Real Justice League again last night on Max, but this time in the B&W edition while I did something else. Gotta say it's still pretty good and at times great, with a great visual imagination. It's still a four hour movie that feels like it has an hour of fat that could've been cut at no loss, though.
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You know it's really odd to me that a lot of discourse around Superman is that he should be so easy to write a good story about. His comics have always struggled (I started reading in the 80s, after a reboot - and saw at least 4 more reboots, all of which fizzled), of the original run of 4 films half of them are between bad and terrible, his 2006 reboot was a snooze and a failure, his 2013 reboot pissed off a certain segment of people so hard they basically went nova and at least some are still steamed a decade later. Really good Superman stories are so rare that you probably know them all. Like, if I told you about Superman: Doomed, would you have any idea what I was talking about? At this point you have to wonder why the character has the reputation as sort of "dial-a-hero" easy guy to write a story about. It's clearly really hard to walk that line, to write a story with enough optimism, power, and lightness to satisfy a personally invested minority who are going to go white hot supernova if their needs aren't met while still actually having something that works as a compelling narrative for everyone else not in that group. I guess what I'm saying is that I would not want to be the guy who has to say "oh yes, our upcoming Superman movie is the one. You're all going to love it."
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