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Jun 26, 2023 14:22
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Anders posted:The barrier troops were reservists belonging to the same division, so it would be pretty dumb for the morale of both the front line and reservists if the latter started killing their compatriots. That's a weird way to sell it, barrier troops were by design newly raised attachments to regular formations (in 1918 and in WW2). Like I wouldn't consider an attachment subordinate to the NKVD anything like what you described Anders posted:It was more likely you got a shower and a hot meal before being sent back to the front rather than a bullet lmfao. Yeah they sent you to a special camp first though, probably fine
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Jun 26, 2023 14:23
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weg posted:The truce they have erected is extremely firm and vascular. A throbbing and turgid peace will surely result from thier intercourse. https://y.yarn.co/17537722-773f-4333-81ab-5ae699711570.mp4
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Jun 26, 2023 14:23
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https://goo.gl/maps/GsreLrYLfM5sVZam9 Bleak.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:24
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It sounds loving exhausting to constantly play a game of not gay and have to constantly reinforce the narrative of what a big strong man you are, like prison rules but prison rules: society edition with an ever-present threat of sexual assault thrown in.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:25
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The Modern Russian Regime makes a hell of a lot more sense to me now that I have realized it's apparently just even worse written Oz
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Jun 26, 2023 14:27
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it's like the macbeth episode but richard III and gayer
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Jun 26, 2023 14:27
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Russian regime is Jay from Inbetweeners
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Jun 26, 2023 14:30
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:Rates starting at $71/night Ride the window elevator to ground floor for free.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:31
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Minsk looks like, "What if soviet architecture, but in the 2010's?" Or a backrooms liminal space made up of infinite Holiday Inn Expresses.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:32
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:Minsk looks like, "What if soviet architecture, but in the 2010's?" I looked up some images and  Minsk looks like a dull place to live
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Jun 26, 2023 14:35
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Went to Minsk about 10 years ago. It's pretty souless. It functions which is the most important thing I guess but the brutalist architecture and weird North Korea interior vibes in places is not a good feel.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:38
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4.5 ⭐️ reviews tho
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Jun 26, 2023 14:38
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Der Kyhe posted:You can't just turn off the fuel rods, or really even make them inert. You can unload the reactor into a storage pool or a loading pool, or put the fuel rods to transport pods, but that is just moving the problem around, not making it go away. The plant isn't producing anything at the moment but if you blow up the containment building and damage the reactor or whatever vessel the fuel is in right now, its going to light up like Chernobyl without a doubt, and if nothing more then at least leak contamination to the ground water and soil. This isn't exactly true - and comparing it to Chernobyl misses a few things - like the difference between graphite moderated and water moderated reactors. Yes, the spent fuel would likely present a problem, but without anything to actively moderate and create further fission, at best they'd get really hot and cause small fires and spread contamination that way - Chernobyl was as bad as it was because fission continued happening after the reactors destruction due to availability of moderating material. It won't be nearly as bad as Chernobyl where the graphite in the debris actively kept fission going even after the reactor was destroyed, but it would still be bad. Regardless the possible contamination and destruction warrants severe outrage. Also - Chernobyl was so bad because the reactor ran away in the middle of fission, a bunch of overheated spent fuel in cold reactors would be bad, but not as bad. The reactors have been cold for months at this point. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 14:40
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TulliusCicero posted:I looked up some images and its got some exiting parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri5E9sk_BTk&t=108s
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Jun 26, 2023 14:40
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https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1673315645864157184
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Jun 26, 2023 14:45
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:Rates starting at $71/night Ah the famous Coward Johnson Suites.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:47
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TulliusCicero posted:I looked up some images and It really depends. This hotel seems to be surrounded by soulless apartment blocks which exist in any large city, but the center is somewhat more fun. One of the bar streets usually has stuff going on 
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Jun 26, 2023 14:47
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=138gX3wolOo&pp=ygUKd29yZiBtaW5zaw%3D%3D
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Jun 26, 2023 14:49
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Sekenr posted:It really depends. This hotel seems to be surrounded by soulless apartment blocks which exist in any large city, but the center is somewhat more fun. One of the bar streets usually has stuff going on Projecting images of a nicer place to live on the outside of the buildings.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:51
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TulliusCicero posted:The Modern Russian Regime makes a hell of a lot more sense to me now that I have realized it's apparently just even worse written Oz Oz was written mainly to come up with more and more hosed up ways to murder people. So yes.
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Jun 26, 2023 14:51
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 Did someone say Minsk?
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Jun 26, 2023 14:54
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Well, you made a long journey from Milan to Minsk, Rochelle, Rochelle. anyway bikefallmeme_CIAversion.jpg https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1673327472601964552 camps in Belarus built for wagnerites? far from the UA border (or frontline) https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1673331354824585216
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Jun 26, 2023 15:09
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Anders posted:2 hours 40 from Narva, Estonia to St. Petersburg. 8 hours from Ludza, Latvia to Moscow. 2 hours 45 from Midininkaj, Lithuania to Minsk, Belarus. 1 hour 20 from Braniewo, Poland to Kaliningrad. 3 hours from Kirkenes, Norway to Murmansk ....and seven days to the Rhine!' *Soviet intensifies*
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Jun 26, 2023 15:14
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Dwesa posted:Well, you made a long journey from Milan to Minsk, Rochelle, Rochelle. Yes...."camps"
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Jun 26, 2023 15:14
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weg posted:Coward Johnson Suites. Too many bangers itt
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Jun 26, 2023 15:16
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Dwesa posted:Well, you made a long journey from Milan to Minsk, Rochelle, Rochelle. Man it's gotta be fun being a civilian living in the town next to Camp Wagner
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Jun 26, 2023 15:20
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Minsk?
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Jun 26, 2023 15:20
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So did Prigozhin take some kind of deal where he and his men just sit in paid time-out in Belarus for a bit while Russia scrambles to figure out how to deal with them?
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Jun 26, 2023 15:30
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Dwesa posted:Well, you made a long journey from Milan to Minsk, Rochelle, Rochelle. Chef Boyar P tried to switch roles with Shoigu by suggesting a menage à trois with Putin but they were all on board so he hastily retreated.
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Jun 26, 2023 15:35
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Clerical Terrors posted:So did Prigozhin take some kind of deal where he and his men just sit in paid time-out in Belarus for a bit while Russia scrambles to figure out how to deal with them? Its probably much simpler than that. They drove a dump truck full of money to him and he backed off. Dont ever forget that for Russians this entire war is about money ans stealing everything from Ukraine.
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Jun 26, 2023 15:36
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Clerical Terrors posted:So did Prigozhin take some kind of deal where he and his men just sit in paid time-out in Belarus for a bit while Russia scrambles to figure out how to deal with them? That's what it looks like, at least the broad strokes of it.
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Jun 26, 2023 15:39
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Cartoon Man posted:Minsk? Prigozhin: “are they booing me?”
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Jun 26, 2023 15:40
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Burns posted:Its probably much simpler than that. They drove a dump truck full of money to him and he backed off. Dont ever forget that for Russians this entire war is about money ans stealing everything from Ukraine. His stated reason for starting this rebellion though are: 1. Russia's not trying hard enough to win. More warcrimes, full mobilizzzation. 2. The reasons given for starting the war (Nazi's, demilitarisation, NATO expansion) were all lies, its about rich Russians plundering Ukraine like they plundered Luhansk, Donets and Crimea. (Also all of Russia.) 3. The Russian Ministry of Defense is getting Russian and Wagner soldiers killed in far greater amounts than is reported. Russia is losing while claiming to be winning. 4. Whenever Wagner gets a win the MOD claims it as a Russian military win, says nothing about Wagner involvement, then stops supplying Wagner with ammo and artillery/air support for a while, so Wagner stops winning so much. See page 433: spankmeister posted:This is a pretty interesting discussion but meanwhile the fight between Wagner and the MoD went hot and it sure looks like Prigozhin is staging a coup. RBA-Wintrow fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 15:43
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Victis posted:That's a weird way to sell it, barrier troops were by design newly raised attachments to regular formations (in 1918 and in WW2). Like I wouldn't consider an attachment subordinate to the NKVD anything like what you described Some were probably imprisoned too - but contrary to popular belief the USSR had limited manpower, and starting to imprison soldiers would not only reduce the combat strength, but tie up people to be prison guards instead of soldiers But go ahead and find sources that imprisonment was the norm and not exceptions- ‘cause I couldn’t find any last time I looked
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Jun 26, 2023 15:57
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CommieGIR posted:This isn't exactly true - and comparing it to Chernobyl misses a few things - like the difference between graphite moderated and water moderated reactors. Yes, the spent fuel would likely present a problem, but without anything to actively moderate and create further fission, at best they'd get really hot and cause small fires and spread contamination that way - Chernobyl was as bad as it was because fission continued happening after the reactors destruction due to availability of moderating material. Exactly which part of the "you cannot just turn off the fuel rods, and if you explode away the vessel the fuel is in and the containment building housing it, you end up with burning fuel rods exposed to outside, contaminating and irradiating all surrounding places" was a lie as you seem to be accusing me about lying about this? Graphite isn't magical stuff that makes the radiation go away, it just makes it easier to control the reaction and lessens the risk of boiling over. And if the Russians really are going to purposefully destroy the plant and cause largest possible catastrophe as an outcome, don't you think they plan ahead for this?
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Jun 26, 2023 16:02
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Der Kyhe posted:Graphite isn't magical stuff that makes the radiation go away, it just makes it easier to control the reaction and lessens the risk of boiling over. And if the Russians really are going to purposefully destroy the plant and cause largest possible catastrophe as an outcome, don't you think they plan ahead for this? This assumes the Russians plan in general which is a bit optimistic given everything we've seen in the past 16 months
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Jun 26, 2023 16:06
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Der Kyhe posted:Exactly which part of the "you cannot just turn off the fuel rods, and if you explode away the vessel the fuel is in and the containment building housing it, you end up with burning fuel rods exposed to outside, contaminating and irradiating all surrounding places" was a lie as you seem to be accusing me about lying about this? You didn't even understand what I said: Graphite doesn't make radiation go away, I never said that at all. I said as an active moderator it made the disaster at Chernobyl worse by sustaining fission even after the reactor was destroyed. Water moderated reactors decrease reactivity as the water is removed, so at worse your spent fuel overheats from decay products, but this is part of why they shut down the reactors down months ago, unless Russia has turned the reactors back on without the IAEA knowing, they are cold right now and have been for months. They could lose their coolant and at worse they'll overheat, maybe melt a bit. EorayMel posted:This assumes the Russians plan in general which is a bit optimistic given everything we've seen in the past 16 months This. At worst they'll damage the spent fuel pools and maybe the reactor coolant loops. I cannot see them having enough explosives present to damage the core. Russia is not great at "planning". There will be releases from the overheating fuel for sure, and its still a problem, but comparing it to Chernobyl is kinda missing some critical points that made Chernobyl as bad as it was. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 16:12
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Der Kyhe posted:Exactly which part of the "you cannot just turn off the fuel rods, and if you explode away the vessel the fuel is in and the containment building housing it, you end up with burning fuel rods exposed to outside, contaminating and irradiating all surrounding places" was a lie as you seem to be accusing me about lying about this? The part where you said it was going to "light up like Chernobyl" is probably what they're taking issue with? The fuel requires the moderator to keep the reaction sustained (or increasing, in the case of a meltdown). Chernobyl's design used graphite as a moderator, and even when the reactor was destroyed the graphite was still there among the fuel sustaining the reaction. ZNPP uses water as the moderator, if the reactor is destroyed it's not going to keep sustaining the reaction. Of course the fuel is still radioactive and that's bad but it's not Chernobyl bad. Edit: I'm not certain if that's a totally accurate read of what happened at Chernobyl, but either way it was a full meltdown which you can't reproduce by just blowing up fuel rods. HappyHippo fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 16:13
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Anders posted:But go ahead and find sources that imprisonment was the norm and not exceptions- ‘cause I couldn’t find any last time I looked Soldiers who broke discipline in the Soviet military in WW2 were typically sent to penal units and not imprisoned. Don't know which you'd prefer if given the choice* I think the idea that the most likely punishment would be "a hot meal and a shower" before going to the front is ludicrous for either side of the Eastern Front in WW2 btw. *like the gulags, many penal units were "stiffened" with violent criminals and gangsters, who, along with the NKVD guards, who would shoot penal soldiers if they retreated without orders, maintained an exceptionally harsh regime of discipline
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