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Yeah the Brooklyn package would obviously be better for Portland, but would they be willing to screw over Dame like that? Seems unlikely.
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Fast Luck posted:Can Miami really offer enough? I think Miami can take Lillard and Nurk for Lowry and Herro. Toss in as many firsts and swaps as you can (3 +2 maybe? Including JJJ) would seem like a pretty good return all things considered. Maybe it gets tweaked based on stuff but that seems like a workable base.
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leftist heap posted:So what exactly is the warriors starting 5 steph klay cp3 gp2 draymond
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temple posted:When bball podcasts come up, I recommend Jason Timpf https://twitter.com/_JasonLT. He's on various platforms, mainly the volume on youtube. He does a good job of covering technique, matchups, plays but doesn't go too far over your head. He doesn't have agendas or hot takes, just a straight forward guy that loves bball. i listened to this guy a few times he seems good
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If Dame gets traded, it's likely to Brooklyn. Dame even mentioned (when asked) that he liked Brooklyn. Brooklyn can offer: Whitehead, Clowney, DFS, Dinwiddie, Harris, 2025 PHX, 2027 PHX, 2027 PHI, 2029 PHX, 2029 DAL
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That would be an extremely Brooklyn trade they love buying as high as humanly possible on stars that won’t help them move the needle
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it would be insanely stupid for the Nets to go all in on 32 year old Dame. Like 3-4 years ago sure. but now lol at any team giving up that much.
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Paracaidas posted:...I'm coming around to the idea that Connelly and ownership made the Gobert trade wagering that second round exits meant more for Ant and Jaden's development and the team's future than intermittent late lottery picks from playin failures and sweeps from "successes" like last year. They proved they can get usable vets on good contracts so I think it was a good move, even if the experiment fails, since it means that Ant and Jaden are gonna be surrounded by vets who knows how to play and can push them, rather than young guys who are behind them in development. It's an unfortunate reality that the one and done system puts a lot of guys into that late lottery spot who aren't NBA ready and need significant minutes for a couple years to see if they're gonna develop into useful players. And yeah they could pick high floor low ceiling guys, but you may as well scrounge around the veteran minimum market instead if that's all you're gonna do.
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Mean Baby posted:If Dame gets traded, it's likely to Brooklyn. Dame even mentioned (when asked) that he liked Brooklyn. Brooklyn can offer: Don't forget Ben Simmons
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leftist heap posted:So what exactly is the warriors starting 5 Steph Klay Wiggins Dray Looney was the league’s best 5 man lineup last year by net rating (of any group that played together more than100 minutes). https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/advanced?dir=D&sort=MIN As long as those 5 are healthy (assuming Dray resigns), that lineup is not changing. It was moronic bench play that held them back last year. If CP can run the second team for 15 minutes per game and keep the idiots from throwing the ball away every 20 seconds, they might have a chance at one last deep playoff run with this core.
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The Warriors looked absolutely hosed up in the playoffs last year regardless of who was playing. CP3 isn’t going to change that
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Dexo posted:it would be insanely stupid for the Nets to go all in on 32 year old Dame. They're finally accepting dame will get traded let them cope
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I can't imagine you'd go from having Kyrie, Harden and Durant, not being able to win anything with them, trading them all, then thinking Dame will get you closer to winning a championship.
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Strawberry Panda posted:I can't imagine you'd go from having Kyrie, Harden and Durant, not being able to win anything with them, trading them all, then thinking Dame will get you closer to winning a championship. Don’t forget trading for the entire Boston Big 3, doing gently caress all with that, then getting an exciting young core and dumping it again for the quoted team. Really not sure how or why anyone would follow or care about Brooklyn. Would legit be better for everyone if they became the swamp donkeys or whatever and went back to NJ and embraced their stank as a franchise
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Jun 26, 2023 17:23
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Wemby announced he is skipping the FIBA WC this summer.
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predicto posted:Steph Klay Wiggins Dray Looney was the league’s best 5 man lineup last year by net rating (of any group that played together more than100 minutes). Klay appeared to turn into a pumpkin when hit with playoff schedules
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i think the nba needs to restrict how far out you’re allowed to trade firsts and put restrictions on pick swaps before a team stepiens themselves into oblivion
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Declan MacManus posted:i think the nba needs to restrict how far out you’re allowed to trade firsts and put restrictions on pick swaps before a team stepiens themselves into oblivion They already do the first part
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i demand more restrictions
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no restrictions. If a team wants to screw themselves let them. FREE MARKET BABY. STOP THE SOCIALISM FUELED PROFESSIONAL SPORTS LEAGUES. No Salary Cap, no Max Salaries, Laissez Faire sports leagues >>>> Dexo fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 17:35
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-no picks more than five years out -only one pick swap per transaction -rule is named after matt ishbia
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i’m fine with the no cap/no max thing though, let it ride
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I honestly believe that the rule is there to protect teams from desperate GMs making increasingly long odds trades to try to save their jobs. There's nothing more dangerous to a team's long term success than a GM who's got one more year to turn things around.
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WhyteRyce posted:Klay appeared to turn into a pumpkin when hit with playoff schedules The annoying thing with Klay is that it's hard to tell if it's any specific situation/scheduling that's causing a slump, or just his idiosyncratic streakiness. You just have to gamble that he's on a hot streak during the playoffs (or obviate the need for him to be by having KD).
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i am a moron posted:Don’t forget trading for the entire Boston Big 3, doing gently caress all with that, then getting an exciting young core and dumping it again for the quoted team. yep
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Declan MacManus posted:i think the nba needs to restrict how far out you’re allowed to trade firsts and put restrictions on pick swaps before a team stepiens themselves into oblivion The new CBA also puts more restrictions on your ability to trade future first if you're over the second apron, but no one knows exactly what they are since the new CBA still isn't public yet
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smh, thread is filled with both cops and communists.  The absolute worst. Abolish the Draft. the free sports market will decide. Get the poors who aren't looking to blow money on their teams for fun and winning out of ownership. Let them make huge comical mistakes that doom them for a decade plus.
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Dexo posted:smh, thread is filled with both cops and communists. I agree that Wemby and Scoot should be a Lakers right now
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Dexo posted:smh, thread is filled with both cops and communists. I too would love to see reinsdorf gone
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The Glumslinger posted:I agree that Wemby and Scoot should be a Lakers right now lmao the Buss's don't got it like that anymore compared to some of the owners and ownership groups coming into the league now, who just are stupid dumb rich in a way that the Buss Family is not. Buss's are rich because they own the Lakers, much like the McCaskey Family is rich because of the Bears. They aren't independently wealthy outside of valuation of the team. Like Ballmer could make it motherfucking rain on draft picks and free agents if he were allowed to operate in a free market. In a way that like the Lakers couldn't, without over extending a bunch.
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The free market is bad and the draft is good
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Ballmer just paying guys in MS Stock would get hilarious. Edit: LeBron demanding 1% of Lakers per year would also be great Calidus fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Dexo posted:smh, thread is filled with both cops and communists. Lakers win 18 out of the next 20 chips. Everyone applauds. “It’s like the golden age of baseball!” Edit: Oh yeah, Ballmer exists. Give a few of them to the Clippers.
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Hyperbole and Jokes aside, I would actually unironically be for getting rid of the Draft/the concept of rookie contracts as a limit on how much a player is underpaid early in their career. Especially in loving football. Running Backs get fuuuuuuuucked. predicto posted:Lakers win 18 out of the next 20 chips. Arison, Isbha, Tsai, Pera, Gilbert, Kronke(especially him), would all poo poo on the Lakers if they were allowed to(and wanted to) spend stupid gobs of money to buy wins or they would fail(like Tsai has) comically. Dexo fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Dexo posted:Hyperbole and Jokes aside, I would actually unironically be for getting rid of the Draft/the concept of rookie contracts as a limit on how much a player is underpaid early in their career. Great. 5 teams can compete for the rings. Everyone else gets to be the Washington Generals
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Azathoth posted:I honestly believe that the rule is there to protect teams from desperate GMs making increasingly long odds trades to try to save their jobs. There's nothing more dangerous to a team's long term success than a GM who's got one more year to turn things around. Owners always have the final say. They can just say "no" to the dumb trade.
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predicto posted:Great. 5 teams can compete for the rings. Everyone else gets to be the Washington Generals Don’t worry I am sure Oil Money would come in to buy some good will.
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happy offseason folks here's a video of Jimmy Butler and Neymar singing Justin Bieber's "Love Yourself" https://i.imgur.com/MrWsKah.mp4
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predicto posted:Great. 5 teams can compete for the rings. Everyone else gets to be the Washington Generals Alternatively, you loving spend money to compete, sell your loving team to someone who will, Or you get good at finding players.
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No thanks I prefer parity unless this is going to turn into soccer club style sports poo poo before it all got gobbled up by authoritarians and the Glazers Edit: and the players should get paid more but I’m not convinced a more free market system is going to result in the players getting more BRI
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