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No Mods No Masters posted:Jillchat There's a giant crystal thing you can see to the north from the northern coast of sanbreque that never comes up in the game. I feel like that plus whatever the deal is with leviathan plus some backstory about jill and the north is a pretty likely thing to do in DLC. Not that it's much of a defense of how the base game handled it The deal with Leviathan is that it was Lost during the same event that destroyed the lost mothercrystal that is now that giant rear end gap in the ocean. That seems to have basically ended its existence, though of course DLC could bring it back. We see Titan go Lost too after Kupka eats the mothercrystal. So the basics of what happened are Leviathan was involved in the battle that wrecked the mothercrystal, ate the crystal, became some sort of hellish water abomination, and then burned itself out. It isn't really confirmed due to the timeline but odds are pretty good that Kupka doing what he did might mean there would never have been another Titan Dominant either.
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Bland posted:oh we're just posting unmarked spoilers now? that's cool https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=4034447&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#pti6 Might be worth moving conversations to the actual spoiler thread considering how many black bars we're getting.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:21
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Edit: I'll take this over to spoiler chat then.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:25
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I just completed the point of no return, first mother crystal and have to echo the Jill sentiment. Clive is great and obviously the focus, but with as much as Cid chews scenery, Jill is a stark contrast in how just sort of “there” she is. Hoping I get to see more from her as things progress
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Jun 27, 2023 16:27
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Do they ever explain who sent the head to Hugo?
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Jun 27, 2023 16:27
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Gimme a Cid prequel where we get to see the no doubt wild stories of how there's someone in every corner of Valisthea who either a) owes him a favor, b) is his ex, or c) both.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:28
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Zaggitz posted:Do they ever explain who sent the head to Hugo? Barnabas.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:28
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Bland posted:oh we're just posting unmarked spoilers now? that's cool Yeah I learned some pretty big stuff. Zedsdeadbaby, if you were trying to punish me for for bringing up female representation in your video game, you got me good I guess.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:29
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Zaggitz posted:Do they ever explain who sent the head to Hugo? don’t know if it’s said outright but the clear insinuation is that it was barnabas intentionally riling him up to sic on the rebels and then rosaria
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Jun 27, 2023 16:30
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Update:Arist posted:If I don't hear the phrase "mummer's farce" I'm going to be very cross HELL FUCKIN' YEAH
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Jun 27, 2023 16:40
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Just played from the 2nd crystal to getting the 4th set of iconic powers. drat that was good. The loving drums before fighting Hugo were amazing, and both the big boss fights were really cool and fun. The game is very good.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:49
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Introvert Jill can’t stop getting dragged for just being there and listening Jill thinks I don't notice her poo poo-eating grin in some scenes (usually when Clive's getting embarrassed) or how the first thing she usually does after a boss or something is go pet Torgal
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Jun 27, 2023 16:53
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I can't get over how good this game looks.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:55
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SettingSun posted:I can't get over how good this game looks. I am deeply amused how FFXVI opinions seem to cover all spectrums. I've heard it is sleek and modern but also is like a PS2 game in design It's ugly and bland and also it looks great The combat is simple and basic and also it's too complex/'finger-puzzle' The characters are too grim but also too lighthearted Pretty much the only thing anyone agrees on is that the game is too easy and even then you have people playing on Story Mode and equipping the help accessories. That and that Cid is hot as gently caress.
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Jun 27, 2023 16:58
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Cid is hot as gently caress, but also FF16 is my game of the year.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:01
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ImpAtom posted:Pretty much the only thing anyone agrees on is that the game is too easy and even then you have people playing on Story Mode and equipping the help accessories. I'm loving old and broken, ok?!
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Jun 27, 2023 17:02
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Klungar posted:I'm loving old and broken, ok?! Sorry, I didn't mean that to come across as a "lol get gut" thing. I said come in! posted:Cid is hot as gently caress, but also FF16 is my game of the year. FF16 isn't even my RPG released by Square-Enix GotY though I did enjoy it a lot. (Octopath 2 I just liked more.)
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Jun 27, 2023 17:02
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*activates the mode that plays the game for me* Whoa too easy there’s no way I could fix this
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Jun 27, 2023 17:04
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Arist posted:Update: I love that basically every fantasy property for the past several years has collectively realized what a fun phrase this is. I don't even remember where I first heard it but I notice it all the time now lol.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:04
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I love that basically every fantasy property for the past several years has collectively realized what a fun phrase this is. I don't even remember where I first heard it but I notice it all the time now lol. I'm like 99% sure GRRM just made it up
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Jun 27, 2023 17:15
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You kids say the game is easy and I'm over here dying all the time! I went into the arcade mode to refight Garuda and got my rear end beat lmao
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Jun 27, 2023 17:16
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I’m playing on story and it’s easy and breezy and honestly that’s the best way to play a JRPG.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:18
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SettingSun posted:You kids say the game is easy and I'm over here dying all the time! I went into the arcade mode to refight Garuda and got my rear end beat lmao I've certainly died a few times too, I think the sentiment that it's easy is because Souls has poisoned the narrative a bit and certain gamers want to be punished for failure, this game just fills up all your potions and is like "get back out there and get that guy, you can do it!" and I'm totally down with that.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:28
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Playable eikon 5 setting up a lvl 4 megaflare into gigaflare feels so drat good
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Jun 27, 2023 17:30
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I want to swap out eikon 3 for eikon 4 because I hate eikon 3's circle move, but I'm still 5K short of mastering Judgement Bolt and like hell am I giving up my gently caress off nuke button.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:31
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I grew to like eikon 3's circle move for big packs but I don't miss it too much since I swapped out 3 for 5.
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Edit: Nevermind.
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AcidCat posted:I've certainly died a few times too, I think the sentiment that it's easy is because Souls has poisoned the narrative a bit and certain gamers want to be punished for failure, this game just fills up all your potions and is like "get back out there and get that guy, you can do it!" and I'm totally down with that. Fwiw Elden ring effectively does the exact same thing
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Jun 27, 2023 17:34
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Really effective psychological trick having your score tick down to 0 when you die in arcade mode.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:43
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Warden posted:Clive, kiss your childhood friend /traveling companion. I wonder if the story might have originally been written without the third timeskip Clive and Jill pining after each other for eight years into their mid thirties despite living on a boat together is funny
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Jun 27, 2023 17:46
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"Introvert Jill" is funny to me because when the game does let her talk to people it's immediately clear she's better at it than Clive
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I’m no game designer/programmer, but I feel like the game should run a lot better than it does. It looks good, but not that good. It’s also nowhere near as expansive as something like Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or TotK, which both still run around 30fps despite everything else they’re pulling off. It kind of reminds me of Stranger of Paradise and I wonder if the same inefficiencies that tanked the performance in that title are also at play here.
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Jun 27, 2023 18:00
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mycot posted:I'm like 99% sure GRRM just made it up Yeah, looks that way. Mumming and mummer's plays have been a thing for a very long time but he seems to be the first one to jam "farce" in there.
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Almost Smart posted:I’m no game designer/programmer, but I feel like the game should run a lot better than it does. It looks good, but not that good. It’s also nowhere near as expansive as something like Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or TotK, which both still run around 30fps despite everything else they’re pulling off. Could be new engine quirks and inefficiencies. According to Yoshi-P, 16 is using a brand new engine, whereas something like XBC3 is using a highly refined (and decade old) version of the XBCX engine.
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Blockhouse posted:"Introvert Jill" is funny to me because when the game does let her talk to people it's immediately clear she's better at it than Clive I am an introvert and work in a field involving a lot of communications between people & I am far more effective at my job than the extroverts purely because I am not just making a bunch of noise for no reason. It totally scans imo
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More whole game context general jillchat I liked the suggestion someone had earlier that the dynamic where jill was pretending to be clive's owner pre-timeskip was interesting and maybe could/should have just been extended post-timeskip. Maybe I missed something but really it's kind of strange that to my memory no rear end in a top hat bigot people post timeskip call out clive for being a branded/runaway branded considering the giant obvious scar where his brand was
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Almost Smart posted:I’m no game designer/programmer, but I feel like the game should run a lot better than it does. It looks good, but not that good. It’s also nowhere near as expansive as something like Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or TotK, which both still run around 30fps despite everything else they’re pulling off. Those Switch games run at sub 30fps at 720p and look way worse than FF16
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Almost Smart posted:I’m no game designer/programmer, but I feel like the game should run a lot better than it does. It looks good, but not that good. It’s also nowhere near as expansive as something like Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or TotK, which both still run around 30fps despite everything else they’re pulling off. XBC3 and TOTK do not look nearly as good as you think they do when you play them on a 4K screen especially. There’s so many janky low res textures that carry those games and not nearly as many particle effects. Having your rendering being capped at 1080p docked with no upscaling helps a lot too.
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Flavahbeast posted:I wonder if the story might have originally been written without the third timeskip Lol I did think this was pretty hilarious You've been traveling and living together for five years and you're still awkwardly dancing around your attraction to one another? Really? They're 33 and 30 now and still act like awkward teenagers around each other. I'm not even sure this is a criticism so much as it is really funny
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I choose to believe Clive and Jill are just socially stunted weirdos.
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