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DLSS (and FSR and XeSS) don't seem that hard to implement. A studio of Bethesda's size has no excuse.
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Neither does Ubisoft.
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Jun 27, 2023 15:46
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Why pay a dev team when this guy will do it for https://www.patreon.com/PureDark
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Yudo posted:DLSS (and FSR and XeSS) don't seem that hard to implement. A studio of Bethesda's size has no excuse. they're all just different takes on TAAU so the integration requirements mostly overlap, once you have one you're most of the way to having the rest
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kliras posted:better get fsr 3 out the door by then womp womp AMD posted:In addition, gamers will be able to take advantage of advanced AMD features and technologies that deliver a truly immersive gaming experience, including the advanced cross-platform AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution 2 upscaling technology. i'm sure starfield is high on the shortlist to get FSR3 patched in once it launches, but who knows when that will be
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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-to-introduce-ada-lovelace-successor-in-2025 No Ada Lovelace successor until 2025, supposedly. Not sure how much stock to put into a leak from HardwareLuxx. If we can take the exact position in the chart at face value, then Ada Next would be releasing in the first half of 2025. I've been saying there's room for an Ada refresh before the next new architecture, whether it's a super series or a 2.0 situation... Plenty of untapped potential on the upper end and room to reconfigure the product stack. Or maybe they just won't do anything and we can expect the current cards to be the entirety of the lineup for the next two years, but that seems unlikely to me.
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Jun 27, 2023 19:01
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The speculation I’ve read is that Ada has been in volume production since early 2022 and they may have a substantial amount of Ada inventory built up as a result. That “inventory” number isn’t all ampere. They’re not gonna chop production down to zero especially with Quadro selling well, but, stuff that’s pre-sold and sitting in partner warehouses with gaming vram kits isn’t going to be Quadro either. It’s possible they end up ramping down gaming production a lot and stretching the generation another 6 months to burn off the Ada inventory. It’s also possible 3nm is just behind schedule, although I wouldn’t take it for granted that gaming moves to 3nm either. Wouldn’t assume either of these but they’re plausible/unsurprising outcomes.
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Jun 27, 2023 19:11
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it makes business sense, as long as they're serving the ai yahoos in enterprise whatever they want the expectations for ada are so low that they can probably give us some super/whatever refresh with better vram and memory bandwidth and call it a day, at least below 4090 i wonder what an upgrade above 4090 would look like, though, especially since the form factor would change into something absurd if they up the juice
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Jun 27, 2023 19:18
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kliras posted:i wonder what an upgrade above 4090 would look like, though, especially since the form factor would change into something absurd if they up the juice 
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Jun 27, 2023 19:19
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surely they'd only release an actual consumer gpu like that to gently caress with the sff community, which i can only respect
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kliras posted:surely they'd only release an actual consumer gpu like that to gently caress with the sff community, which i can only respect I respect it, those of us who bought real cases instead of toys will appreciate the stability
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Shipon posted:I respect it, those of us who bought real cases instead of toys will appreciate the stability 
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kliras posted:surely they'd only release an actual consumer gpu like that to gently caress with the sff community, which i can only respect The sff community gets off on shoving things like that in 10 liter cases. A sandwich casemaker somewhere just got a boner and they don't even know why.
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Rakeris posted:Odd, no issues here with that on a 4070ti, sure it uses all the VRAM but a huge number of games will just reserve it all cause they can.
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Yudo posted:DLSS (and FSR and XeSS) don't seem that hard to implement. A studio of Bethesda's size has no excuse. I'm wondering if it is because parts of their engine date back to like 1998.
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8 liter master race reporting in - is it likely that I’ll be able to find an Nvidia card 8” long or shorter that’d be faster than the Sapphire RX 6600 currently installed with my 5700GE?
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Josh Lyman posted:Same, D4 running 1440p ultra was fine in a 4070 Ti during beta and is fine on my 4070 now. I run Diablo 4 at full Ultra, nvidia reflex and boost both at 4K 120 and 1440p 240hz It’s buttery smooth and at max fps on both with a 9600k cpu. If Diablo 4 is running badly on a 3080 or better, you have something set up wrong. For me, I had a problem one day where the power slider on EVGA software for some reason went all the way down to 25%. Once I turned that back up to 100% poo poo ran great again.
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Lord Stimperor posted:I'm wondering if it is because parts of their engine date back to like 1998. Unlikely, since people are just slapping it in post-market.
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also they literally said it has FSR2 so the groundwork for any other TAAU implementation is already in there
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Hasturtium posted:8 liter master race reporting in - is it likely that I’ll be able to find an Nvidia card 8” long or shorter that’d be faster than the Sapphire RX 6600 currently installed with my 5700GE? i'd probably try to find some gpu database and sort by length and take it from there, maybe /r/sffpc has a google doc or something kliras fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jun 27, 2023 |
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Hasturtium posted:8 liter master race reporting in - is it likely that I’ll be able to find an Nvidia card 8” long or shorter that’d be faster than the Sapphire RX 6600 currently installed with my 5700GE? There are apparently 4060 Ti cards with just a single fan that may fit, but I don't think any of them have left Asia. edit: Actually the Ventus 2X should fit.
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Hasturtium posted:8 liter master race reporting in - is it likely that I’ll be able to find an Nvidia card 8” long or shorter that’d be faster than the Sapphire RX 6600 currently installed with my 5700GE? For 4060ti, Palit StormX (170mm) and Msi Ventus 2X (200mm). I don't think there's a 4070 under 225m edit: Techpowerup lists the length of the various boars in their GPU database Arzachel fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jun 27, 2023 |
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Gyrotica posted:Why pay a dev team when this guy will do it for That's kind of clever to do frame generation on Fallout 4, since fake frames won't gently caress up the game's physics engine like real frames over 60fps do. Is there a way to force frame generation in CEMU? The Zelda games similarly bug out over 60fps, and I can't quite hit the 4K 120hz of my display with brute force anyways, due to emulation overhead.
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no chance, DLSS FG requires deep hooks into the engine, it's not the kind of thing you can just force externally in a generic manner puredarks work is highly engine specific and AFAIK they are only tackling games which already have motion vectors, which zelda doesn't
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there also tend to be a bunch of additional caveats with these plugins like having to manually tweak lod bias or ui/text not being upscaled correctly
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generic frame generation does kind of already exist, it's the motion smoothing setting on your TV, but the results are not great to say the least in principle it would be possible to do something akin to TV motion smoothing on PC but i don't think there's a ton of demand for that
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I tried motion flow in a 30 fps game recently for the heck of it, and it really was quite bad. Ignoring the extra latency, it just looked like it was constantly switching between 60 and 30. Old tv, though, so maybe the tech has improved since.
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if your game source was outputting 30fps in a 60hz container then that might have been confusing the TVs algorithm if it's not smart enough to recognize that the source is frame doubled still, even when working as intended the results probably wouldn't be great repiv fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jun 27, 2023 |
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I didn’t consider that.
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spunkshui posted:
Agreed, I can run it on high/ultra at 4K without issue on my 10GB 3080 change my name fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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repiv posted:in principle it would be possible to do something akin to TV motion smoothing on PC don't give the FSR 3 team any ideas
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DLSS 3 already did now everyone gets the badly configured TV experience 
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repiv posted:generic frame generation does kind of already exist, it's the motion smoothing setting on your TV, but the results are not great to say the least VR headsets already do this. It looks loving awful, the only reason it's remotely tolerable in VR is because it would make you vomit with lower framerates instead
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hasn't VR reprojection gone through a few iterations? i think the early versions were just based on optical flow similar to TV smoothing, but the newer versions can factor in extra pixel metadata (depth and motion vectors) similar to DLSS FG for better results, though that requires explicit cooperation from the game engine feels like we're seeing VR R&D filter backwards into non-VR games now, i suspect nvidia reflex is derived from work they did to optimize VR latency, and frame generation obviously has a lot in common with VR reprojection repiv fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-expected-to-charge-25000usd-per-2nm-wafer $25,000 per 2nm wafer. I know the technology for these nodes doesn't come cheap, but TSMC is clearly taking advantage of their uncontested lead here. Honestly, I can see Nvidia going with Samsung again for Ada-Next if they offer Nvidia another killer deal like they did with 8nm. It might even allow Nvidia to advance a node without another price hike. (as long as samsung 3nm/2nm aren't too cursed)
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Plenty of untapped potential on the upper end and room to reconfigure the product stack. Or maybe they just won't do anything and we can expect the current cards to be the entirety of the lineup for the next two years, but that seems unlikely to me. So many weird decisions, like a 4060Ti with 16GB VRAM but the 4070 and 4070Ti are only 12GB. A 16GB 4070Ti that didn't cost $800+ would be ideal for me but that would only make the 4080 look even worse.
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Rinkles posted:I tried motion flow in a 30 fps game recently for the heck of it, and it really was quite bad. Ignoring the extra latency, it just looked like it was constantly switching between 60 and 30. Old tv, though, so maybe the tech has improved since. I have a fairly new lg tv and I honestly thought it was a huge improvement to use the frame interpolation when playing Breath of the Wild on the Switch, the smooth 60fps looks great. >>Looks<< great. Adds too much latency to be really worthwhile unless you're just traversing terrain. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jun 28, 2023 |
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repiv posted:if your game source was outputting 30fps in a 60hz container then that might have been confusing the TVs algorithm if it's not smart enough to recognize that the source is frame doubled I wanted to test it by forcing a 30Hz output but not on an option on this tv  HalloKitty posted:I have a fairly new lg tv and I honestly thought it was a huge improvement to use the frame interpolation when playing Breath of the Wild on the Switch, the smooth 60fps looks great. I guess repiv was right then because it was unpleasantly juddery on my end
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-expected-to-charge-25000usd-per-2nm-wafer Samsung say their 2nm node will be out by 2025, and Intel 18A will already be on the market, so we'll see if TSMC really are uncontested at that point. As for the price, charging a third more over 3nm when (iirc) the expect performance and/or efficiency gains are less than that is not going to be enticing to the market. If using bigger or multiple 3nm chiplets is more affordable than going to 2nm, TSMC will have to be more realistic with their pricing.
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4060 reviews are live. Seems about equal to the 7600 until you get to ray tracing as usual, but its ray tracing performance still isn't good enough to be a factor still needing heavy upscaling use to get to 60fps. I liked GN's conclusion of "Prices are falling, and they're going to fall more".
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