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Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
But sometimes you just want figs

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Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




The fig tree story is bookended by Jesus driving the money changers from the temple.

poor people get the fig tree story. if you are hungry it doesn’t matter if its not the season for figs.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

If you read the whole text of that "we are legion" thing basically Jesus sends the demons out of the guy and into a flock of sheep, which immediately drown themselves in a nearby lake. The shepherds come up and, according to the apostles, say something like "you can't stay here anymore", which I assume is a really nicely filtered version of "what the gently caress did you just do to our entire flock of sheep, get the gently caress out of here you goddamn rear end in a top hat"

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

protect children from transubstantiation

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

Stevie Lee posted:

i just smashed my phone the other day and im thinking about ordering this piece of poo poo


could you not just get a dumbphone since this is the exact description of what this phone purports to do for 6x the price of the average dumbphone?

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

So you don't look like you're using a dumbphone, obviously.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
minimalism is a luxury of the rich

if you're poor you take anything you can keep because you might need to sell it, trade it, or give it later

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

tokin opposition posted:

minimalism is a luxury of the rich

if you're poor you take anything you can keep because you might need to sell it, trade it, or give it later

maximilism is the obsession of capitalism and the rich. minimalism is just another kind of maximilism. funny how that works.


Veblen was right.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Fuckit I'd try it

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Brrrmph posted:

the OT prophets are really where it’s at. the overwhelming majority of their calls for Israel and Judah to repent come from those peoples mistreatment of the poor and marginalized

since the adoption of christianity by the roman empire all economics have been meticulously stripped away in favor of the immaterial

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/and-forgive-them-their-debts-michael-hudson/1129786863

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

since the adoption of christianity by the roman empire all economics have been meticulously stripped away in favor of the immaterial

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/and-forgive-them-their-debts-michael-hudson/1129786863


quote:

The Real Message of Jesus: Jesus’s first sermon announced that he had come to proclaim a Clean Slate debt cancellation (the Jubilee Year), as was first described in the Bible (Leviticus 25), and had been used in Babylonia since Hammurabi’s dynasty. This message – more than any other religious claim – is what threatened his enemies, and is why he was put to death. This interpretation has been all but expunged from our contemporary understanding of the phrase, “…and forgive them their debts,” in The Lord’s Prayer. It has been changed to “…and forgive them their trespasses (or sins),” depending on the particular Christian tradition that influenced the translation from the Greek opheilēma/opheiletēs (debts/debtors).


What the actual gently caress

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Read Debt: The First 5000 Years.


It argues all the major world religions came up around the same time period and all preached a form of radical debt forgiveness.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Orange Devil posted:

Read Debt: The First 5000 Years.


It argues all the major world religions came up around the same time period and all preached a form of radical debt forgiveness.
:yeah:

It's a great book.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



Ancient kings who had to deal with actual threats to their power understood that people could be in so much debt they couldn't actually work the fields to feed everyone and announced debt forgiveness days every so often. It was an especially useful tool to ensure support of the populous, funny that.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Biplane posted:

What the actual gently caress

read the book

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

SardonicTyrant posted:

Ancient kings who had to deal with actual threats to their power understood that people could be in so much debt they couldn't actually work the fields to feed everyone and announced debt forgiveness days every so often. It was an especially useful tool to ensure support of the populous, funny that.

Next you'll tell me that they kept their population fed and entertained (and housed) to avoid uprisings.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

In ...and forgive them their debts, renowned economist Michael Hudson – one of the few who could see the 2008 financial crisis coming


Lmao I could see it coming and I was like 16

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Anyway looking forward to sliding a copy of this book across the table next thanksgiving when annoying baptist uncle starts whinging about how we can't just forgive student loan debts that's socialism!!! or whatever, thanks

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
Huh... Weird.
It's still 'debts' in Serbian (Orthodox), although someone will usually helpfully point out that it's not "literally" debts that's being talked about. Now I wonder which churches translate it which way.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005


Due to debts i cant afford the book right now ironically but some day, although i dont know if i can handle being further jokerified

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
go to the library, or hell, don’t even leave your house, just get a library card online and check out the ebook.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
libgen or z library

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

brap posted:

go to the library, or hell, don’t even leave your house, just get a library card online and check out the ebook.

Libraries round these parts have heavily restricted access to ebooks, if at all, to protect small businesses like major international publishing houses. I was able to search my local library online to see if they had a physical copy at least (they did not)

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Centrist Committee posted:

libgen or z library

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Biplane posted:

Libraries round these parts have heavily restricted access to ebooks, if at all, to protect small businesses like major international publishing houses. I was able to search my local library online to see if they had a physical copy at least (they did not)
It's not like libraries are choosing to heavily restrict ebooks. Publishers have been total greedy assholes about ebooks. They really just want libraries to go away entirely.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

cat botherer posted:

It's not like libraries are choosing to heavily restrict ebooks. Publishers have been total greedy assholes about ebooks. They really just want libraries to go away entirely.

Yeah thats what I meant. gently caress the publishers lobby.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

this is why banks got rid of kings

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

How much of library's day to day operations even involves books anymore? Because it feels like the one around here is just a free computer lab and the last indoor public space that doesn't require you to spend money.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

lots of people prefer books. lots of books are not online. even if they are online, you still have to pay for them

as the internet gets worse I suspect libraries will come back to be more important

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
Libraries are an amazing free public resource that people don’t use nearly enough.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

There's some research I wanna do about this long gone laboratory that used to make nuclear bomb parts one city over, and I know the local library would have way more resources on it than I've been able to find online (the place barely gets a mention on wikipedia, and the line on wikipedia is wrong based on other documents I found) but also it requires getting in the loving car and driving somewhere and ughhhh

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

cat botherer posted:

Libraries are an amazing free public resource that people don’t use nearly enough.

If librairies hadn’t already been invented, there is no way they could have been created for the first time now.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
remember that our public libraries were largely the creation of literal robber baron Andrew Carnegie lol

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Arivia posted:

remember that our public libraries were largely the creation of literal robber baron Andrew Carnegie lol

There was a time when it was worth your while to launder your reputation

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
now you dont have to you get an army of sycophants just for being ludicrously rich it's hilarious*

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Can't you just order stuff from other libraries? Like, that's how it works here, if something isn't available in your local library, you just order it and they bring it to you and send an email when it's there

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

BonHair posted:

Can't you just order stuff from other libraries? Like, that's how it works here, if something isn't available in your local library, you just order it and they bring it to you and send an email when it's there

yes it’s called inter library loan

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Shame Boy posted:

the place barely gets a mention on wikipedia, and the line on wikipedia is wrong based on other documents I found
Well, fix it then, so the next person looking it up gets the correct information.

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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lmao

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