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Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

I'm often the co-worker who turns in suboptimal work, for several reasons:
- I have a tendency to work too fast and miss obvious errors (I am aware of this and work on this a lot)
- Our legacy codebase is crap and working on the same thing for a week is exhausting and unfun, see #1
- My coworker is a self-acclaimed perfectionist who refuses to accept that sometimes, people make mistakes. They claim that they never ever make mistakes if they don't want to. (I hate this person)

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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

ijyt posted:

Compound that with a manager who focuses on metrics rather than quality of work and good loving god did I hate my last job. "Sandra's closing 20% more tickets than you why is that?"

Fucker I could close 200% more tickets if I didn't resolve the issue or build any customer rapport while tanking the reputation of our department.
Yeah in my Xbox support days there was a guy who did that. Had glowing customer satisfaction scores because he'd always just flat out lie to the customer and then close the ticket. Whoever had to unfuck the mess he made would get a lovely CSAT from the person who'd been jerked around for a whole month. He eventually got promoted away from the floor and I think he's running the company's SOC now. I fear for their network.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Outlook started opening links in Edge this morning instead of Chrome and I had to dig to figure out how to change it. Stop doing this poo poo, Microsoft!

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
Will the justice department please sue these assholes again

Edit: Jesus Christ why is my outlook notifying me of every email I’ve received for the last two weeks all at once. Why is MS loving with it

i am a moron fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Jun 26, 2023

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

i am a moron posted:

Edit: Jesus Christ why is my outlook notifying me of every email I’ve received for the last two weeks all at once. Why is MS loving with it

They are strong believers in Zero Inbox.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

ijyt posted:

Compound that with a manager who focuses on metrics rather than quality of work and good loving god did I hate my last job. "Sandra's closing 20% more tickets than you why is that?"

Fucker I could close 200% more tickets if I didn't resolve the issue or build any customer rapport while tanking the reputation of our department.

God I wish that we had anything where I am right now, even useless metrics - Support is a drat mess because it's just a single guy doing whatever the gently caress he wants with no rhyme or reason. Maybe he'll spend 5 hours with someone and ignore a whole day of requests, maybe he'll close everything that day! Who knows!

It's so dire that I had to help out a couple of weeks back and I got a few comments about people feeling like support was being done. He's not a bad guy, but we just can't keep a second support hire (used to be me, got a better opportunity internally and took it, and also not his fault that we can't) so it's just been whatever the gently caress for... 6 years? I dunno.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Reoxygenation posted:

God I wish that we had anything where I am right now, even useless metrics - Support is a drat mess because it's just a single guy doing whatever the gently caress he wants with no rhyme or reason. Maybe he'll spend 5 hours with someone and ignore a whole day of requests, maybe he'll close everything that day! Who knows!

It's so dire that I had to help out a couple of weeks back and I got a few comments about people feeling like support was being done. He's not a bad guy, but we just can't keep a second support hire (used to be me, got a better opportunity internally and took it, and also not his fault that we can't) so it's just been whatever the gently caress for... 6 years? I dunno.

If you're in the UK and do remote then I could hop in lol.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

ijyt posted:

If you're in the UK and do remote then I could hop in lol.

Canada (un?)fortunately, really wish we could keep a drat support hire though, we either get the dumbest of dumb motherfuckers who want to improve everything (they're not wrong, lots of issues to fix) and go about it by being assholes and get fired/quit or they just quit

God help me when I have to train the next one only for them to quit within 3 months

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


What the gently caress Microsoft?

Why would you stick this poo poo in the middle of my desktop!?

gently caress you with a rusty spoon

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Edge pops up a "please use me" box covering up the download box when you try and get Chrome now, I think MS need hitting with the antitrust hammer again because they seem to have forgotten.



Same with all Google properties showing "we work best in Chrome, download Chrome!" when you access them using any other browser. Just gently caress off.

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"

Thanks Ants posted:

Edge pops up a "please use me" box covering up the download box when you try and load Chrome now, I think MS need hitting with the antitrust hammer again because they seem to have forgotten.



Same with all Google properties showing "we work best in Chrome, download Chrome!" when you access them using any other browser. Just gently caress off.


i am a moron posted:

Will the justice department please sue these assholes again

:hmmyes:

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
They're likely to get slapped over the Activision merger so maybe things will snowball.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I went nuclear and cleared out the entire "Microsoft" parent folder. Then I revoked permissions for TrustedInstaller and System to modify it.

While I was at it, I switched to a local account instead of the Microsoft account because gently caress them.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

i am a moron posted:

Edit: Jesus Christ why is my outlook notifying me of every email I’ve received for the last two weeks all at once. Why is MS loving with it

I love it when they implement some bullshit you don’t need and never wanted, and makes the process of disabling it odious enough that you just give up and find a way to fit it into your workflow.

Like, I get why SaaS and the cloud are a thing but I kind of miss when you could go to a shop, buy a product, insert the disk, install the app, and get a reasonably complete product without endless subscriptions, accounts and always-online requirements.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Every little incident of Microsoft actively making the user experience more hostile and/or commercialised on the Pro version of an operating system that I paid for sets off a "maybe I should look at desktop Linux" thought.

You can take a clean Windows 11 install and if you use Edge then everything on default settings is almost indistinguishable from your parents' hosed up Windows XP PC - search bar in the taskbar, widgets popping up filled with tabloid news articles and those really cheap adverts about what celebrities look like now, shitloads of shovelware apps installed by default, another search bar in the middle of the desktop, another full page of trash tabloid news when you launch the browser.

Genuinely thought MS had finally understood what people want from a PC and then it all started going wrong when the weather widget got pushed into the Windows 10 taskbar.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





The Windows 11 thread seems to agree. It's full of people who are sick of Microsoft's poo poo. Personally, it doesn't really bother me and I think at least a few of the things you've mentioned are old, but I hear you.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3971625

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
I can chuck a lightweight distro on a 15 year old ThinkPad and have a perfectly acceptable experience.

The only place I use Windows by choice is on my gaming PC. My laptop is a second-hand M1 Macbook Pro that I got for a good price.

My work laptop runs a heavily customised and optimised Win10 image that, thank god, has most of the horrendous poo poo disabled by force, and that I’m not responsible for maintaining.

Bargearse fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jun 26, 2023

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


If Microsoft was like "okay pay us $50/year and we will give you a version that has no tracking or ads or Cortana or onedrive or Xbox or edge and you can disable any built in app permanently" I would absolutely do it

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
I expect them to offer exactly that if the ad money ever dries up.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


The thing that drives me insane is they were this loving close to turning their image around.

WSL; VSCode; Windows Terminal. They were making things that felt great to use and got the gently caress out of your way. Then someone was like "You know what was great? Windows 8. We should do Windows 8 again and call it Windows 11. But we're going to learn from our mistakes - instead of letting everyone stay on the old version like we did with 7, we're going to loving ruin Windows 10 and make it impossible to opt out of our idiocy!"

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

I remember that at some point, you could upgrade to the newer Windows version, and if you didn't like it you could revert back to the previous one. Both processes were about the same difficulty.

But now, one false click and boom, you're on Windows 11 now bitch. Revert? Nah you're stuck now. Here's some clickbait news on the Edge new tab page!

Weedle
May 31, 2006




Thanks Ants posted:

Every little incident of Microsoft actively making the user experience more hostile and/or commercialised on the Pro version of an operating system that I paid for sets off a "maybe I should look at desktop Linux" thought.

You can take a clean Windows 11 install and if you use Edge then everything on default settings is almost indistinguishable from your parents' hosed up Windows XP PC - search bar in the taskbar, widgets popping up filled with tabloid news articles and those really cheap adverts about what celebrities look like now, shitloads of shovelware apps installed by default, another search bar in the middle of the desktop, another full page of trash tabloid news when you launch the browser.

Genuinely thought MS had finally understood what people want from a PC and then it all started going wrong when the weather widget got pushed into the Windows 10 taskbar.

ironically weather in the taskbar is the one feature out of all this crap that i actually do like a lot

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Weedle posted:

ironically weather in the taskbar is the one feature out of all this crap that i actually do like a lot

I loved that feature in Windows 10 but in Win 11 my org has blocked it as that is the CIS-CAT recommendation and I really miss it. :negative:

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I actually hate Windows 11 slightly less than Windows 10, at this point in the lifecycle. There hasn't actually been a version of Windows I'd call "good" since Windows 7 though.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
Windows really feels like it’s starting to collapse under the weight of decades with of bloat, half-implemented features and quick fixes. It’s a miracle it’s usable at all.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Arquinsiel posted:

I actually hate Windows 11 slightly less than Windows 10, at this point in the lifecycle. There hasn't actually been a version of Windows I'd call "good" since Windows 7 though.

With or without explorer patching? :v:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Bargearse posted:

Windows really feels like it’s starting to collapse under the weight of decades with of bloat, half-implemented features and quick fixes. It’s a miracle it’s usable at all.

Windows 10 and 11 felt pretty good out of the box. Everything I hate about the OS is telemetry or search engine related because Microsoft keeps going through these phases where they gotta advertise poo poo to us. If it was just an OS with no other Microsoft software it'd be great.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
I use Windows 11 to click on one of three game icons.
I use Linux for productivity. (I touch embedded Linux for a living.)

Works pretty good!

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


The worst part about Windows 11 is their refusal to allow you to have text labels on your taskbar icons, or to have separate tabs/icons when you have multiple windows open for the same application. Yes I know its because they redeveloped the taskbar from the ground up blah blah blah, it's not a loving dock and I don't want to have to click an icon to get back to one of my multiple browser windows.

Yes I guess it's coming but roll out faster dammit!

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Wibla posted:

With or without explorer patching? :v:
Yes.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Sirotan posted:

The worst part about Windows 11 is their refusal to allow you to have text labels on your taskbar icons, or to have separate tabs/icons when you have multiple windows open for the same application. Yes I know its because they redeveloped the taskbar from the ground up blah blah blah, it's not a loving dock and I don't want to have to click an icon to get back to one of my multiple browser windows.

Yes I guess it's coming but roll out faster dammit!

I'll believe it's coming when I see it on my machine. How long did it take to release their half baked tabbed explorer that still doesn't let you drag tabs between windows etc?

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE



gently caress a job

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."
What... What am I looking at here??

i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
Looks like a serial killers whiteboard in their basement dungeon

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

Tag urself I'm LATERHOSEN

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Definitely spent longer than I should have trying to understand how Azure route tables worked, was trying to think of it the same as as routers in the real world, where you have to tell each router where to send packets and trying to apply this to peered vnets. Turns out it's a lot simpler than I thought and you just specify the next-hop even if the next-hop is on the other side of a vnet peer, the platform works it all out for you.

Should have read the docs 🙃

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


More poo poo that pisses you off: Should have read the docs 🙃

BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

My boss just dropping huge loving projects into Teams chat then saying nothing, asking nothing directly of any of us, then blowing up about it when it wasnt promptly addressed.

Today he just casually dropped a link to some new AWS service that would be a big lift and cost to setup in the morning, then got pissed when no one responded enthusiastically to it. Yeah sorry no one was jumping out of their seats to setup yet another unused halfbaked SIEM here, good loving god.

This last big vacation ruined me temporarily. Only 25-30 more years before I can retire I guess.

gooby pls
May 18, 2012



Thanks Ants posted:

Definitely spent longer than I should have trying to understand how Azure route tables worked, was trying to think of it the same as as routers in the real world, where you have to tell each router where to send packets and trying to apply this to peered vnets. Turns out it's a lot simpler than I thought and you just specify the next-hop even if the next-hop is on the other side of a vnet peer, the platform works it all out for you.

Should have read the docs 🙃

Blew my mind at first looking at pcaps and seeing 12:34:56:78:9a:bc mac addresses for everything.

But yeah, udrs and nsgs are rad and wasn’t too bad of a shift coming from traditional networking. A fun learning curve at least.

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Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

I'll have to show you guys our new topology with shortest path bridging, just with all the labels gone - then see how many heads explode :v:

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