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Not really a spoiler, just a hilarious line from the new engineer. "I still have a bunker in Vermont where I used to live in case this no money, socialist utopia thing turns out to be a fad!"
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Darko posted:I was really wondering why nobody was talking about the new episode this morning and thought I may have time traveled or something. I did laugh at how they are waving the time shifting of events. it's two days early on amazon lol. not showing up in the paramount+ app
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Jun 28, 2023 02:33
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Is it really not possible to just add my existing Paramount+ account to my Prime account? Can I only create a new subscription to Paramount+ through Prime in order to associate the two? Modern streaming feels like a dystopia that a '50s sci-fi author would have concocted.
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Jun 28, 2023 02:56
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it’s just the streaming apps making you feel that way?
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Jun 28, 2023 03:10
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Nice I saw someone mention the new episode was up somewhere but wasn't sure what they meant
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Jun 28, 2023 03:21
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Its not on the P+ app sadly.
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Jun 28, 2023 03:36
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Penitent posted:Is it really not possible to just add my existing Paramount+ account to my Prime account? Can I only create a new subscription to Paramount+ through Prime in order to associate the two? with the caveat that i've never tried to link it to amazon, you can't do it with apple tv channels either, which is really a shame because the interface is much better that way. if you subscribe through some other app you can still use the paramount+ app if you feel like torturing yourself incidentally i'm pretty sure that's how i'm getting it for free, when i go to billing it says i'm subscribed through apple, but i'm not. that trial expired in november lol
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swickles posted:Its not on the P+ app sadly. - Phrase that's gonna become much more common in the future w/r/t Star Trek 
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Jun 28, 2023 04:28
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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, now on The CW!
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HD DAD posted:Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, now on The CW! somehow they made the Arrow-verse long as it did
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Jun 28, 2023 04:34
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hiddenriverninja posted:somehow they made the Arrow-verse long as it did Some amazing parallels between Modern Trek and the Arrowverse, how cancelling one show in each franchise just completely imploded the audience's trust and interest in the universe like a loving Jenga tower with one too many blocks removed from it.
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Jun 28, 2023 04:51
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Trek never dies. What's the longest streak of no Trek since they started doing it? They'll be back. They're alwaaaays coming back. Hell zoomers' kids, if they still get electricity in their district, will be able to make their own public domain Star Treks.
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1673693212634955778 Turns out I wasn’t stupid for continuing to buy physical media. I just ordered all of Lower Decks and the first season 4k of SNW. The later seasons of LDS seem to only be available from a few Amazon resellers now so I wouldn’t wait too long. For Canadians another place to look for Trek Blu Rays is Cinema1 which still exists somehow and has an online store. I also used to see discs selling cheaply at Shoppers Drug Mart and Giant Tiger but I the ones near me seem to have gotten rid of the DVD/Blu Ray racks.
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Jun 28, 2023 05:35
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Star Trek in Canada. Paramount is ripping all of it off of Crave by the end of July save for SNW (for now).
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Khanstant posted:Trek never dies. What's the longest streak of no Trek since they started doing it? They'll be back. They're alwaaaays coming back. Hell zoomers' kids, if they still get electricity in their district, will be able to make their own public domain Star Treks. Trek's Dark Years were 1969-1973 (the time between TOS going off the air and The Animated Series premiering). Then 2005-2017 (the time between Enterprise going off the air and Discovery premiering). So about 4 years and 12 years, respectively.
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Jun 28, 2023 05:45
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Pretty hard to call 2005-2017 the dark years when we had three huge summer blockbuster movies during that period. Regardless of what anyone thinks of their quality, at least the first two made dump trucks full of money and kept the franchise in the public eye.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Pretty hard to call 2005-2017 the dark years when we had three huge summer blockbuster movies during that period. Granted I was going on the metric of "times between when Trek was on TV and not on TV." So yeah the 00s dark age was 2005-2009, so four years, max.
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Khanstant posted:Trek never dies. What's the longest streak of no Trek since they started doing it? They'll be back. They're alwaaaays coming back. Hell zoomers' kids, if they still get electricity in their district, will be able to make their own public domain Star Treks. After Picard? And the rapturous response season 3 got? (Here's one of the only places I've seen where it's not lauded by most) I'm with the guy from Marriage Story and Girls: Let the past die. Kill it if you have to. It's the only way to be sure
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ashpanash posted:After Picard? And the rapturous response season 3 got? (Here's one of the only places I've seen where it's not lauded by most) That's the only good thing to come out of Paramount's slow motion collapse w/r/t Star Trek -- Terry's Toy Box will never be opened ever again 
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Jun 28, 2023 06:23
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How are you watching tomorrow's episode already? Amazon is showing it as unavailable for me.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Pretty hard to call 2005-2017 the dark years when we had three huge summer blockbuster movies during that period. The third one made dump trucks of money too, just not quite as many trucks and also studios want every movie to make a billion dollars now so it was a 'failure'.
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nine-gear crow posted:Trek's Dark Years were 1969-1973 (the time between TOS going off the air and The Animated Series premiering). Then 2005-2017 (the time between Enterprise going off the air and Discovery premiering). So about 4 years and 12 years, respectively. If you're not counting the movies, then you also have 1975-1987.
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nine-gear crow posted:Granted I was going on the metric of "times between when Trek was on TV and not on TV." So yeah the 00s dark age was 2005-2009, so four years, max. True. Two four-year gaps really isn’t that bad for a franchise as big as Trek, all things considered. Star Wars had 14 years between Jedi in 1983 and the Special Editions in 1997 and then another 10 years between RotS in 2005 and Force Awakens in 2015. But even then you had a near constant stream of cartoons, games, books, comics, etc keeping it alive.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Pretty hard to call 2005-2017 the dark years when we had three huge summer blockbuster movies during that period. One of them was literally called Into Darkness.
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8one6 posted:How are you watching tomorrow's episode already? Amazon is showing it as unavailable for me. It was just up on my Amazon when I woke up in the morning yesterday, no idea.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Star Wars had 14 years between Jedi in 1983 and the Special Editions in 1997 and then another 10 years between RotS in 2005 and Force Awakens in 2015. But even then you had a near constant stream of cartoons, games, books, comics, etc keeping it alive. Yeah Star Wars had a really good marketing department that exploited the EU and merch to keep it super-heavy in the public consciousness. Trek... did not.
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Darko posted:It was just up on my Amazon when I woke up in the morning yesterday, no idea. It's on Amazon but listed as June 29, 2023 so it's not playing for me yet.
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SNW E203 This episode is like top 20 trek for sure. Very sweet and heartbreaking. The Khan retcon is fine with me, because it also retcons Picard Season 2's Brent Spiner Project Khan ending. Thought Paul Wesley was 'off' in the S1 Finale, but this Alt-Kirk is incredibly charming. I would be just fine watching a Kirk-based spinoff from SNW. The Pelia thing took me by surprise that she wasn't an engineer yet. That's just perfect. La'an solved her Khan-based trauma just to get time travel-based ones. Incredibly callous and awful of the time cops to not just erase her memory.
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Episode was awesome, great stuff. Kirk was amazing and charming, loved the Pelia twist, the Romulan lady was only obvious due to lack of other characters. I half expected Spiner to pop up. The rant that tried to retcon all the different timelines was great. Temporal Investigations continues to be staffed by ding dongs, lol. Heartbreaking ending. Maybe my favorite episode of the series yet, will have to sit on it a day or two and probably watch it again.
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drat good stuff I think that's our first acknowledgement in a show about the shakiness of the whole Khan timeline right? Time pushing back and suddenly a 1992 event is coming to fruition like 30 years later. I feel bad for La'an getting "City of The Edge Of Forever"-d though, she's dealt with enough crap.
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Not a big fan of this episode. I'm fine with and liked the La'an arc, but I don't like the logistics of the episode from a pedantic standpoint. For instance how much loving money did they make hustling chess to afford that huge hotel room? Like, just give them a more reasonable room. I also found the actress playing the future Romulan vampire or whatever the hell she was really sucked at the role. Maybe I looked away or blinked, but why did she die like a Blade vampire? Her personality was nothing like a Romulan at all, also perhaps a pedantic complaint. I do really appreciate the style of episode they were working toward, I just think it could have been easily so much cleaner, so when I say I'm not a big fan of the episode, it's really because it missed its potential. The location being Toronto, like a TOS episode would shoot just outside the lot was stupid but it's how they used to do it, so I appreciate it. Another funny thing is the overall message of the episode, basically telling us we have to burn it all down, face the worst hardship, to get the utopia. I guess it's an expanded "I need my pain" idea, which is cool, but it's funny that it's basically the opposite message from what our contemporary politics would suggest. I don't know, maybe I'd like the episode if it were cleaner? It also could be somewhat from me watching it at 3-4AM.
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Are all the upcoming future-history events like the Bell Riots and WW3 getting pushed forward as well? Also, did La'an leave that gun on Lil' Khan's desk?
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Given the emphasis they placed on the shot of the Romulan agent dusting herself, I have a nagging feeling we aren’t quite done with this story thread yet. It sounds like that agent was stuck in some Groundhog Day type thing of constantly trying to kill Khan (given the 1992 comment) or blow up humanity and this was just another round of failure before the next reset. Or we’re just meant to take it all at face value and assume Temporal Investigations sorted everything. Either way, very solid episode. Wesley’s Kirk is fantastic and I’m thrilled that it’s not just a one-note Shatner impression. Much better than his last appearance. J33uk posted:I feel bad for La'an getting "City of The Edge Of Forever"-d though, she's dealt with enough crap. Yeah, that was brutal.
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Jim Kirk: Chess Hustler
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Liked the episode well enough, particularly the final scene which I thought was very strong, but also, it's been 3 episodes now and can we please go on a Star Trek into space with the Enterprise and its crew!?! Also, just echoing that the rant about being stuck in the past since 1992 cracked me up.
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We’ve already had Klingons, time travel, and a courtroom episode, three classic staples of Good Trek. What more do you people want???
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claw game handjob posted:If you believe the theory some of these cuts are to prevent royalty payouts, that works. If you don't think this whole thing is just about that tier of cost-cutting, yeah, nonsensical logic. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:We’ve already had Klingons, time travel, and a courtroom episode, three classic staples of Good Trek. Pike fist fighting Thor
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Brilliant episode of Star Trek, and La'an remains Best Girl. Christina Chong is a goddamn treasure.Super Deuce posted:The location being Toronto, like a TOS episode would shoot just outside the lot was stupid but it's how they used to do it, so I appreciate it. As a non-American, part of me was wondering if the location being Toronto was an injoke about how they always film US shows in Toronto and pretend it's America. The whole "we're in New York" followed by "no, Toronto" is a fun way of lampshading that. If that's what they were doing, and I thought it was what they were doing. But I laughed, I cried (little bit), I had a bloody good time, it's a fine episode and very much in the best traditions of top tier Trek. e: I swear to god, if we don't end up getting 7 seasons of this because of all the Paramount bullshit I will riot
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Big Mean Jerk posted:We’ve already had Klingons, time travel, and a courtroom episode, three classic staples of Good Trek. maybe some strange new worlds? no clue where people might get that idea from
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