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ModernMajorGeneral posted:China stays winning Meanwhile NYC is looking to curb emissions by going after coal fired pizza ovens
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Jun 29, 2023 07:04
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Delta-Wye posted:this is the flag i would expect if norm abram was getting real political in his golden years I do not know who that is Lostconfused posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich I do not know why this makes me bad
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Jun 29, 2023 07:04
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/DongshengNews/status/1672424382650515458 But at what cost?
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Jun 29, 2023 07:07
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the shitlib worldview
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Jun 29, 2023 07:14
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KomradeX posted:Yeah turns out fascists are massive loving morons.
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Jun 29, 2023 07:25
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https://twitter.com/ShanghaiMT/status/1653104262283685889?s=20
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Jun 29, 2023 07:38
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The Chinese wind industry’s expansion is an undeniably impressive story. The world’s second-largest economy is the world’s largest onshore and offshore wind market in terms of both generation and capacity. China is not only firmly embedded across wind energy value chains—particularly in the mining and processing of rare earth elements—but it is also at the forefront of developing the world’s largest and most efficient wind turbines. Yet China’s emergence as the world’s leading player in wind has been costly. Beijing’s wind capacity deployment to less-than-ideal locations has been inefficient, while its failure to build corresponding transmission connections stunted growth in some of its windiest provinces. Moreover, Beijing’s acquisition of wind technology—sometimes by outright theft—has increased tensions with the West. China has risen to the top of the global wind industry, but at tremendous financial and diplomatic cost.
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Jun 29, 2023 08:15
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winning is actually losing, actually
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Jun 29, 2023 08:20
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:China stays winning some very powerful AWCs thank you
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Jun 29, 2023 08:24
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/DongshengNews/status/1672424382650515458 this is amazing, but how much co2 does the coal plant produce per annum (I'm hoping this project will effectively make the plant carbon-neutral so I can show it to my green party friends)
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Jun 29, 2023 09:13
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fart simpson posted:The Chinese wind industry’s expansion is an undeniably impressive story. The world’s second-largest economy is the world’s largest onshore and offshore wind market in terms of both generation and capacity. China is not only firmly embedded across wind energy value chains—particularly in the mining and processing of rare earth elements—but it is also at the forefront of developing the world’s largest and most efficient wind turbines. Did the Germans ever build that north - south connection the power companies got all that money for to build?
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Jun 29, 2023 09:19
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double nine posted:this is amazing, but how much co2 does the coal plant produce per annum I think your average 500 MW coal plant produces about 4 million tons of CO2 a year, so this captures a little more than a tenth of that.
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Jun 29, 2023 09:45
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double nine posted:this is amazing, but how much co2 does the coal plant produce per annum carbon capture is bullshit and always a worse use of green power than just using it to supplant fossil fuel power generation
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Jun 29, 2023 10:09
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double nine posted:this is amazing, but how much co2 does the coal plant produce per annum Assuming source 1 is correct, there are four coal-fired generation units. The carbon capture mentioned in the tweet is only applied to unit 4 (2) and captures only about 90% of the CO2 and the stated figure is mentioned in that tweet. unit 3 is the same, so one can take a guess and figure a minimum of 1.1 million tons of CO2. Taking a leap of faith and assuming that units 1 and 2 are about the same as units 3 and 4, Taizhou CFPP comes out to 2.2 million tons of CO2 a year. In terms of energy efficiency, the only stated figure is less than 2.4 GJ/ton (3) which puts it at state of the art in terms of carbon capture from the papers I've read. Not confident on measuring the energy penalty imposed but IRL figures come out to 22%-33% for expectation. 1: https://www.gem.wiki/Taizhou_power_station 2: http://en.people.cn/n3/2023/0613/c90000-20031021.html 3: https://www.ceic.com/gjnyjtwwEn/xwzx/202204/24f12ff33fb84c909e016a7ceb4e6ad3.shtml
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Jun 29, 2023 10:10
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Keep in mind China said they won't build new coal fire power plants outside of China anymore. And I believe other companies with advanced coal power plant tech like GE stop also. Re: wind power. Last I heard the industry is not making a lot of money. I think there is some bottleneck the technology is hitting.
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Jun 29, 2023 10:37
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not just build, I think they're not financing any either.
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Jun 29, 2023 10:41
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china is the only major power to take climate change seriously - but at what cost???
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Jun 29, 2023 10:58
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stephenthinkpad posted:Keep in mind China said they won't build new coal fire power plants outside of China anymore. And I believe other companies with advanced coal power plant tech like GE stop also. The article actually does cover that -- wind is a fine supplemental power source but you need to put it in places that aren't really power hungry and it's tough to get connected to the biggest consumers of energy. Take some of the alpine and steppe areas of inner Mongolia. Great places for wind power, but you're hundreds of miles and big mountain ranges away from Beijing - so maybe you can get hooked into Datong or something but then there's still the transmission-distance problem so maybe it's not even really efficient to get it into that grid
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Jun 29, 2023 11:19
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Palladium posted:winning is actually losing, actually Especially when the other guy does the winning. That loser.
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Jun 29, 2023 12:21
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Palladium posted:winning is actually losing, actually The great chinese philosopher sun tzu once declared 'when looked at from far enough away, there is no difference between good things and bad, you moron'. In this article about the chinese efforts on global warming, i will
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Jun 29, 2023 13:40
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Jun 29, 2023 13:54
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https://twitter.com/JewishCurrents/status/1674075033017131008?cxt=HHwWgICx5e6XwbsuAAAA
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Jun 29, 2023 14:40
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:carbon capture is bullshit and always a worse use of green power than just using it to supplant fossil fuel power generation mechanical carbon capture is bullshit. mycological and algal carbon capture, however,
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Jun 29, 2023 14:42
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Telluric Whistler posted:The article actually does cover that -- wind is a fine supplemental power source but you need to put it in places that aren't really power hungry and it's tough to get connected to the biggest consumers of energy. combining carbon capture with remote but windy places seems like it would be a good idea removes the transfer problem and the unreliability of wind doesnt matter well, if we get a half-decent mechanichal air capture but thats a pretty big if
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Jun 29, 2023 15:42
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Just a few thought on the climate change/carbon capture related topic. First of all, I think the new European carbon tax is a con. It's basically a trade barrier around EU but with a new name. It's intended to slow down the increase the cost of industrialization of the global south countries such as India. And since China has already industrialized and especially invested in the new energy markets, this new energy angle is not going to hurt China. However, on the subject of climate change, I think the boat has already sailed. The fossil fuel industry is not going to decrease their output, to prevent the global temperature 1.2 degree less warm for their grandchildren. They are just going to not increase their output, and not getting the new R&D money going into the solar/wind/battery markets. We will have to plan for the incoming global peopling from the tropic slowly toward to the formerly colder and higher regions. Also thorium based safer reactor designs, that's the future.
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Jun 29, 2023 16:36
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i had mapo tofu last night. but at what cost?
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Jun 29, 2023 16:41
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mila kunis posted:i had mapo tofu last night. but at what cost? that article mentions one of the diplomatic “costs” was upsetting a german wind energy company by letting them enter the chinese market in exchange for technology transfer, because the german company failed to gain significant market share in china after that and china gained their technical knowledge
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Jun 29, 2023 16:44
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Step one: carbon capture Step two: split oxygen from carbon, creating pure carbon Step three: carbon nanotubes Step four: space elevator Step five: red moon Grapplejack has issued a correction as of 16:52 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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Jun 29, 2023 16:50
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stephenthinkpad posted:Also thorium based safer reactor designs, that's the future. yeah this poo poo fuckin rips. extremely cool to read about
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Jun 29, 2023 17:16
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its been extremely cool to read about for twenty years. not a single city on earth is powered by thorium. the advantages of thorium over conventional PWRs are minimal. Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 has issued a correction as of 17:25 on Jun 29, 2023 |
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Jun 29, 2023 17:23
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...try-20000-years
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Jun 29, 2023 17:25
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The best nuclear power plant is the one that gets built and actually runs
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Jun 29, 2023 17:30
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fart simpson posted:that article mentions one of the diplomatic “costs” was upsetting a german wind energy company by letting them enter the chinese market in exchange for technology transfer, because the german company failed to gain significant market share in china after that and china gained their technical knowledge Wow that is a huge cost. Wonder if China will ever recover.
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Jun 29, 2023 17:42
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how much of Asia’s population lives at or near sea level ?
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Jun 29, 2023 17:47
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Usually tech companies are willing to license out/sell their technology when they are losing market to more competitive market leaders. Its not like buyers are guaranteed to profit from your slightly older tech. Its a business gamble for both parties involved.
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Jun 29, 2023 18:02
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stephenthinkpad posted:Usually tech companies are willing to license out/sell their technology when they are losing market to more competitive market leaders. Its not like buyers are guaranteed to profit from your slightly older tech. Its a business gamble for both parties involved. it's common practice. For example, CATL is providing tech transfer to Ford as part of their agreement to setup the battery plant in the US, of course the politicians might still axe that.
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Jun 29, 2023 18:07
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fart simpson posted:that article mentions one of the diplomatic “costs” was upsetting a german wind energy company by letting them enter the chinese market in exchange for technology transfer, because the german company failed to gain significant market share in china after that and china gained their technical knowledge its always funny when capitalist corporations get upset when they're outcompeted by china. just absolute never thought the leopard would eat my face energy
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Jun 29, 2023 18:59
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/29/chinese-spy-balloon-shot-information-bidenquote:A Chinese spy balloon that flew over the United States earlier this year before being shot down did not collect information as it went across the country, the Pentagon said on Thursday. 
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Jun 29, 2023 20:46
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the nefarious ccp remotely disabled the spy technology once they realized they were caught red handed
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Jun 29, 2023 20:48
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they admit it...
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