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tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

In Training posted:

Hitler that lost->Hitler that won->Hitler that won->Hitler that lost->Hitler with no chance.

My record speaks for itself. I've earned a vacation.

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F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

In Training posted:

Hitler that lost->Hitler that won->Hitler that won->Hitler that lost->Hitler with no chance.

My record speaks for itself. I've earned a vacation.

lmao

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I'm just excited for the chance to vote for a black Hitler for the first time in 12 years.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Ytlaya posted:

Gonna make a belligerent post -

I'm not gonna vote for Cornel West!

Why in the world would you even bother "protest voting" if it's for someone who doesn't even share your political views (though tbh it's also goofy and pointless even if they do share your views)? IMO it's the consequence of people still, deep down, thinking that their participation in electoral politics matters. That, plus the fact that people feel a need to have a team in the great Discourse sport that is constantly being played on the internet. Everyone's talking about Voting, so I gotta talk about it too. Speaking for myself here too, since I have also done this in the past and have come to this conclusion through introspection.

Say what you will about the libs, but at least voting is an action that makes sense given their worldview. They actually believe in Joe Biden and American Democratic Institutions.

i'm gonna vote for cornel west

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Lib and let die posted:

yeah i can vote for the broward county comissioner who wants to give more money to the police or the broward county comissioner that want's to give more money to the police

nazis managed to take over a bunch of school boards across the country because hey voting is trivially easy

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

also gently caress you cspam. you don't want to participate in bourgeoisie democracy, you don't want to arm yourselves. what, you think jesus is just going to roll through and give you health care and housing?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

.

Cpt_Obvious has issued a correction as of 00:58 on Jun 30, 2023

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

keeping people who are running on a platform of hating gay and trans people the gently caress off of school boards is worth ten minutes of your time even if it isn't "building communism".

oregon's largely decriminalized drugs, that's been done through ballot measures. that does more to get the boot off the neck of the oppressed than every dsa meeting ever combined have

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020


COWARD!

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Ytlaya posted:

Gonna make a belligerent post -

I'm not gonna vote for Cornel West!

Why in the world would you even bother "protest voting" if it's for someone who doesn't even share your political views (though tbh it's also goofy and pointless even if they do share your views)? IMO it's the consequence of people still, deep down, thinking that their participation in electoral politics matters. That, plus the fact that people feel a need to have a team in the great Discourse sport that is constantly being played on the internet. Everyone's talking about Voting, so I gotta talk about it too. Speaking for myself here too, since I have also done this in the past and have come to this conclusion through introspection.

Say what you will about the libs, but at least voting is an action that makes sense given their worldview. They actually believe in Joe Biden and American Democratic Institutions.

I don't think electoral politics really matters but I'm wrong about a bunch of stuff so for me the correct position is if it's trivially easy for you to vote then vote for the most popular third party candidate whose vaguely left, because maybe in 50 years there might be a credible third party. Probably pointless, but a slim chance it's not.

The Voice of Labor posted:

There's a bunch of stuff on the ballot other than the presidential race. everything at the local level matters, a lot of stuff at the state level does too. taking a second to fill in a bubble costs nothing

What sort of stuff is important?

The Voice of Labor posted:

nazis managed to take over a bunch of school boards across the country because hey voting is trivially easy

They took it over from other nazis, by your own metrics.

The Voice of Labor posted:

also gently caress you cspam. you don't want to participate in bourgeoisie democracy, you don't want to arm yourselves. what, you think jesus is just going to roll through and give you health care and housing?

me personally I want to see the American state's ability to project power overseas collapse I don't care too much about it's domestic situation relative to that.
That's probably the quickest path to healthcare and housing though.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

if you do actual organized local voting then sure you can perhaps make things better locally preferably combine that with more than just "voting" since it usually achieves nothing on its own

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

not communist? not interested

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 55 days!

The Voice of Labor posted:

also gently caress you cspam. you don't want to participate in bourgeoisie democracy, you don't want to arm yourselves. what, you think jesus is just going to roll through and give you health care and housing?

lol

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 55 days!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

The Voice of Labor posted:

keeping people who are running on a platform of hating gay and trans people the gently caress off of school boards is worth ten minutes of your time even if it isn't "building communism".

oregon's largely decriminalized drugs, that's been done through ballot measures. that does more to get the boot off the neck of the oppressed than every dsa meeting ever combined have

If you're going to cite state-level politics it bears noting that Oregon also recently took the regressive, dangerous step of allowing people to pump their own gas.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

The Voice of Labor posted:

keeping people who are running on a platform of hating gay and trans people the gently caress off of school boards is worth ten minutes of your time even if it isn't "building communism".

oregon's largely decriminalized drugs, that's been done through ballot measures. that does more to get the boot off the neck of the oppressed than every dsa meeting ever combined have

who are you arguing with

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

this is for a presidential candidate hwo will get less than 1% of the vote, who cares

just vote for him

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

If you're going to cite state-level politics it bears noting that Oregon also recently took the regressive, dangerous step of allowing people to pump their own gas.

those should be union jobs ✊

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
i can sympathize with stuff like wanting to keep psycho moms for liberty types away from school boards but that in of itself is an exercise in frustration when you realize how well funded and coordinated that poo poo is

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:

i can sympathize with stuff like wanting to keep psycho moms for liberty types away from school boards but that in of itself is an exercise in frustration when you realize how well funded and coordinated that poo poo is

Extremely well connected, although no one really knows the specifics.

https://www.mediamatters.org/critical-race-theory/unmasking-moms-liberty

Devos was also the big funder of some precursor to all this that happened somewhere in Colorado. I think you should probably vote for local elections. I don't think you'll find anyone on the national level that is "good".

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
If you're talking about all the charter school stuff characteristic to her then yeah M4L is very much part of that push to defang public schools in favor of them.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

The Voice of Labor posted:

also gently caress you cspam. you don't want to participate in bourgeoisie democracy, you don't want to arm yourselves. what, you think jesus is just going to roll through and give you health care and housing?

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

not communist? not interested

it's that easy folks

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

The Voice of Labor posted:

also gently caress you cspam. you don't want to participate in bourgeoisie democracy, you don't want to arm yourselves. what, you think jesus is just going to roll through and give you health care and housing?

No I think Buddha is going to do that

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

The Voice of Labor posted:

nazis managed to take over a bunch of school boards across the country because hey voting is trivially easy

:sam:

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
allah will rout the rethuglicans, this I can promise

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

mark immune posted:

allah will rout the rethuglicans, this I can promise

Muslim Cornel West would terrify America

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Al! posted:

didnt the people's party turn into an embarrassing jackson hinkle red brown grifter mess or am i confusing it with something else

yeah that was the one

whatever admirable stuff he did in the past, west is now a confirmed clown

Jabberlock
Nov 29, 2014



olives black posted:

yeah that was the one

whatever admirable stuff he did in the past, west is now a confirmed clown

id vote for a clown over a career politician any day!!

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Jabberlock posted:

id vote for a clown over a career politician any day!!

why did you say the same thing twice :haw:

Les Os
Mar 29, 2010
We’re gonna elect Cornel West president and it’ll turn out to have been Kanye in a mask the entire time

Les Os has issued a correction as of 05:49 on Jul 1, 2023

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

three hillary clintons in a trench coat

Les Os
Mar 29, 2010
a Cornel West mask I mean

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
vote for Cornell West all you want it will never rub off the blood from your hands if you voted for Hillary or Biden before

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



In Training posted:

Wow. I thought Cornel was the leader of CPUSA. This is blowing my mind.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have posted that. I forgot this is the general election. You're right, he has to appeal to both American "socialists" and liberals. He also said a lot of good things in that interview. He's a better, more current, more cogent and more electable candidate than Biden that's for sure.

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

The Voice of Labor posted:

three hillary clintons in a trench coat

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/CornelWest/status/1677510557157687296

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

did cornel west get elected yet?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


this view is too inflammatory for some subforums here. user loses posting privileges for 3 days.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

fart simpson posted:

did cornel west get elected yet?

I can't believe how excited I am for the Cornel West primary campaign!

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