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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1674506072868941853
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 09:56 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 16:23 |
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thread on Russian economic troubles https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1674692578489294848 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1674692578489294848.html projecting RU propagandists https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1674708393775230976 Dwesa fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Jun 30, 2023 |
# ? Jun 30, 2023 10:18 |
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Sucks to be them. Except now even if they turn around and go back home immediately, nothing will change for many years, maybe even decades, to come.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 10:23 |
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Anders posted:This is maybe the first arms shipment I'm against - while I don't think the UA will deliberately target civilians - I'm positive that some of these weapons will fall into the hands of Russians or criminals, and we don't really want that eh. Obviously a risk for everyone, but people shooting this into residential areas in a gang war will be pretty horrible Russia also has cluster munitions in its inventory.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 10:27 |
HonorableTB posted:E: holy poo poo this can't be the same family of IL-22M as first flew in 1947 right can it? That's absolutely bonkers It most certainly is not. The IL-22 that flew in 1947 was a single-aircraft bomber prototype. The IL-22M Airborne Command Post is a derivative of the IL-18 airliner. The first IL-18s flew in 1957, but the -22M is derived from a later model, probably from the mid 1970s. The aircraft may have been manufactured as late as 1985. Anders posted:This is maybe the first arms shipment I'm against - while I don't think the UA will deliberately target civilians - I'm positive that some of these weapons will fall into the hands of Russians or criminals, and we don't really want that eh. Obviously a risk for everyone, but people shooting this into residential areas in a gang war will be pretty horrible Russia's been hosing down residential areas with cluster bombs since the war began. They don't need to "capture" any, they make their own by the millions. And a "gang war"? The smallest cluster warhead is still significantly larger than the largest weapons used by gangs - I think some Scandinavian gangs used shoulder-fired rocket launchers a few times, but that's the limit.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 10:27 |
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Gnoman posted:And a "gang war"? The smallest cluster warhead is still significantly larger than the largest weapons used by gangs - I think some Scandinavian gangs used shoulder-fired rocket launchers a few times, but that's the limit. (Sounds like Sweden.)
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 10:33 |
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1674712465223942144 A command post and a fuel dump were destroyed by the missile strikes in Berdyansk.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 10:41 |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/30/valery-zaluzhny-ukraine-general-interview/ General Zaluzhniy gave an interview to the Post, and he seems extremely annoyed that people are wondering why things are going slowly. And hearing his reasoning, I don't blame him.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 11:08 |
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But I expected the war to be like one of my TikTok s
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 11:39 |
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1674707552687337472 Puccia is now so strong and united it's issuing rotten Mosins and shells from circa 1940 to its troops, and almost fell apart into a rebellion. Well, continue enjoying your fairy tales for as long as you like.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 11:48 |
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Dwesa posted:thread on Russian economic troubles Chris 0's thread and others like it are fantastic writeups of the precarious position of Russia's economy. LOL!! CRASHING MY ECONOMY AND FAILING TO OWN THE PERFIDIOUS WEST
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 11:58 |
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The ruble devalued by 10% after the False Flag Coup which is cautiously promising
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:03 |
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HonorableTB posted:putin: minister seagal, what is your plan to defeat kyiv? this would be a start for one the terrorists have working air defense casey ryback is able to win ukrainians (Erika Eleniak) over to his side. more likely he'll show the cumtown sniper shades clip
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:03 |
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https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1674734475517874181?s=20 An oddity: Russian forces using an Iskander missile to strike a military target instead of a shopping mall or an apartment building.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:06 |
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https://twitter.com/ne_vluchiv/status/1674381503331966977 Terrorist Gubarev, on Girkin's telegram show, claimed that 800 Ukrainians managed to, by themselves, stop 2 army corps (72,000 people plus their gear) near Bohorodychne last year.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:10 |
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steinrokkan posted:But I expected the war to be like one of my TikTok s I think part of the issue is, the only other points of comparison we have are the Kharkiv and Kherson counter-offensives from last year, both of which for whatever reasons were a lot faster. No other war is similar enough to use as a reference point: older wars had different tech, modern wars usually involved lots of guerrilla fighting (and sea/air power if the West was involved). So if someone - not Zaluzhny, who has more important things to do - argues "the current counter-offensive is proceeding at normal speed", they must necessarily explain why the 2022 offensives were both abnormally fast, rather than this one being abnormally slow.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:10 |
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NihilCredo posted:I think part of the issue is, the only other points of comparison we have are the Kharkiv and Kherson counter-offensives from last year, both of which for whatever reasons were a lot faster. We now have to dislodge russians after they had a year to dig in mine everything to poo poo. Without any air power. It would go much better if someone hadn't been hoarding all the good toys.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:31 |
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1674707552687337472 Hmm, yes, we are all laughing at Russia in admiration. Quite right.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:36 |
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NihilCredo posted:I think part of the issue is, the only other points of comparison we have are the Kharkiv and Kherson counter-offensives from last year, both of which for whatever reasons were a lot faster. The thing is, it's fairly obvious why 2022's offenses were faster. 2022's offenses were pushing the Russians out of overextended or underdefended positions, whereas 2023's offensive to date have been against better prepared lines. There was some hope that the Russians would have dropped the ball on preparing their defenses, but that doesn't seemed to be the case, as least yet.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:40 |
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mobby_6kl posted:I mean it's pretty easy to explain. Karkiv the russians were running on remains of the initial invading force and were super thin in the area. After a localized breakthrough they had to abandon and run to avoid getting encircled. Kherson they were stuck on the wrong side of a river with limited ability to supply the forces there and had to bail before poo poo got too bad. Also Kherson took loving ages too. They cleared Kherson city on ~30th November but they'd been mounting the counter-offensive since at least mid September. It was a slow grind from up near Kryvyi Rih for months until the Russian defence finally collapsed and they GTFO of a large area over a couple days.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:47 |
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Anders posted:This is maybe the first arms shipment I'm against - while I don't think the UA will deliberately target civilians - I'm positive that some of these weapons will fall into the hands of Russians or criminals, and we don't really want that eh. Obviously a risk for everyone, but people shooting this into residential areas in a gang war will be pretty horrible Russia and Ukraine both have absolutely shitloads of cluster munitions that they inherited from the USSR that they've been using this entire time. This does not increase any kind of risk of Russia getting cluster munitions because Russia has had cluster munitions since like the 60s. Cluster munitions aren't some uniquely horrible weapon of mass destruction, they're bad because of the amount of unexploded ordnance they cause, which will be a problem that will plague Ukraine for decades after this war is over. But that cat is already out of the bag.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 12:55 |
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Geisladisk posted:Cluster munitions aren't some uniquely horrible weapon of mass destruction, they're bad because of the amount of unexploded ordnance they cause, which will be a problem that will plague Ukraine for decades after this war is over. But that cat is already out of the bag. This. The UXO situation is already beyond hosed. Again, Russia could just walk away and focus on fixing their relations to allow some economic future for its citizens. But this is going to go the hard way.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:04 |
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1674738977721532418 Window or tea?
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:14 |
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I'm gonna be honest: this Putin guy doesn't seem very honest to me. Constantly flip flopping on everything, lies all the time, never any consistency, lots of weaseling. Don't know if we should trust him.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:21 |
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Dude better hope he's already long gone in his Diamond Mine in Africa He seems stupid though, so he's probably a Hot Dog by now
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:31 |
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GABA ghoul posted:I'm gonna be honest: this Putin guy doesn't seem very honest to me. Constantly flip flopping on everything, lies all the time, never any consistency, lots of weaseling. Don't know if we should trust him. I think you will find Putin is highly consistent and his stance on everything has never once wavered. His opinion has always been exactly whatever it is at the time you are reading this post.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:32 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:CNN is reporting that Prig has been seen thunder running to Moscow in a hijacked Wienermobile technical. As unbelievable as this may sound, it cannot be denied that it is happening. Oscar Mike? no no we're-
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:32 |
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No F-16s for Ukraine if they fall into the hands of gangs they'll be used for tactical airstrikes on residential areas against the rival gangs (the Banana Boys and the Rogues have a longstanding beef they're trying to settle with jdams). Pretty horrible.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:33 |
GABA ghoul posted:I'm gonna be honest: this Putin guy doesn't seem very honest to me. Constantly flip flopping on everything, lies all the time, never any consistency, lots of weaseling. Don't know if we should trust him. Spoken like a russophobic, decadent, HATO, homonazi westoid. You should believe everything President Putin says. Today. Ignore what he said yesterday. It doesn't conflict with what he says today because he didn't say anything yesterday. Prigozin is a 'Hero of the Russian Federation', and a terrorist traitor, and a loyal mercenary making Russia stronger rooting out traitors, and banished to
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:38 |
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https://twitter.com/ian_matveev/status/1674762734037004288?t=pj-iEAKPPHa6ETPTICQOsw&s=19
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:58 |
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RDM posted:No F-16s for Ukraine if they fall into the hands of gangs they'll be used for tactical airstrikes on residential areas against the rival gangs (the Banana Boys and the Rogues have a longstanding beef they're trying to settle with jdams). When you're a jet you're a jet all tha way
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 13:59 |
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tiaz posted:this calls out M74 bomblets so I guess my link above is out of date and it's purely fragmentation now? either way, terrifying I dont want bomblets I want CHADACMS
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:13 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/ian_matveev/status/1674762734037004288?t=pj-iEAKPPHa6ETPTICQOsw&s=19 Oh baby this is one of the sexiest yet I really hope they have a crew manning the gun at the same time they're firing off the rocket pod
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:14 |
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Prig is such a loving idiot.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:15 |
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Doctor Butts posted:Prig is such a loving idiot. i'm not so sure present tense is really applicable to prigozhin these days.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:19 |
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/ian_matveev/status/1674762734037004288?t=pj-iEAKPPHa6ETPTICQOsw&s=19 and I thought the MTLB carcasses mounted with rocket pods and naval guns were the worst we'd get. I was wrong.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:20 |
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https://twitter.com/web_emerald/status/1674763837025689601 stuff on the bottom says, Prigozhin's elevation, lying generals, and Bakhmut on fire.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:23 |
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free hubcaps posted:Oh baby this is one of the sexiest yet Very spicy indeed.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:28 |
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Runa posted:lmao I’m sure the society that tracked mimeograph machines and typewriters would definitely have been down with open dialogue over the internet. Production through the roof, if your main measurement is imprisoned dissidents.
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:41 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 16:23 |
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1674707552687337472 joke's on you; i actually love being body slammed by one dozen perfect mercenaries. and my mouth isn't filled with bloodm, it's victory wine
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# ? Jun 30, 2023 14:47 |