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Look, you aren't really a member of the Starfleet elite until you kill either a clone or otherwise duplicate version of yourself. Picard also killed his timeloop doppleganer and he didn't even vaporize that one! Wonder what they did with the body?
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It vanished when the time loop broke iirc
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According to nutrek's twin robot rules there is another doppleganger picard somewhere
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bull3964 posted:Picard also killed his timeloop doppleganer and he didn't even vaporize that one! Wonder what they did with the body? Dereplicated, and it's fundamental parts re-arranged into many the Tea, earl grey, hot. Circle of life and all that.
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I always enjoy how pointless Picard killing his doppelganger is. Could've stunned him, disabled the shuttle, transported him, restrained him... but nah, Jean-luc was working through a few things.
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Picard just straight up murders his time clone if I remember right. He doesn't even say stop. He just shoots him.
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If you ever encounter your doppelganger you have to murder them, there's no other way really
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The timeclone will have gotten him first if he has the chance
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Odo says killing your own clone is still murder, but I guess that could be Bajoran law and not Federation law.
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thotsky posted:Odo says killing your own clone is still murder, but I guess that could be Bajoran law and not Federation law. He just meant your own clone as in that guy made the clone himself, if someone else does it (weird cloner people/time) you have free reign.
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Kibayasu posted:Remember that time Riker vaporized his and Pulaski’s adult clones made by the weird clone people? Well, they weren't finished yet, so it was just an abortion.
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Soul Dentist posted:The timeclone will have gotten him first if he has the chance This. If you’d do it, surely he would too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35x0KolVzpY
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No Dignity posted:If you ever encounter your doppelganger you have to murder them, there's no other way really "If you meet the
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thotsky posted:Odo says killing your own clone is still murder, but I guess that could be Bajoran law and not Federation law. i think that had to do with odo being responsible for prosecuting that kind of thing on the station. i mean, picard isn't going to throw himself in the brig for killing his future self
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Only O'Brien knows he did it.
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I hope killing your own time clone is someone's Starfleet etrance exam psych evaluation.
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V-Men posted:I hope killing your own time clone is someone's Starfleet etrance exam psych evaluation. You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a time clone of yourself, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the time clone over on its back. The time clone lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?
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I’m telling you, every Starfleet ship needs at least one Coordinating Metaphysician. They literally live in a world where a blind man taught an android how to paint!
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Railing Kill posted:You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a time clone of yourself, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the time clone over on its back. The time clone lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that? It turns out that I'm really the time clone trying to usurp the position of the Prime Me.
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Just watched Relics It is a total LOL that at the end they give Scotty a shuttle and just let him gently caress off in this tiny craft to go… somewhere. What a sad-rear end episode.
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not even half way into season 4 of voyager but this is a good step up in pace and quality from season 3 so far, really enjoyed year of hell this morningdisaster pastor posted:The actual breakup happens while in "Warlord," i.e. the one where Kes is possessed, which makes it tricky to realize that, yes, it's real. IIRC, there was only going to be a scene in the Neelix terrorist episode where they discuss having broken up, and even that didn't make it as far as being filmed; the producers just didn't care. and he just rolls on as normal after she goes all anime character because continuity doesn't really exist unless you are paris and torres MrMojok posted:Just watched Relics pretty much the worst of the shoehorned fan service appearances imo, something voyager actually did okay on with sulu
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DesperateDan posted:not even half way into season 4 of voyager but this is a good step up in pace and quality from season 3 so far, really enjoyed year of hell this morning Why no Kirk episode, in any of these shows? Is it because Shatner is just a total dick? I’m not trolling, I am legitimately wondering
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MrMojok posted:Why no Kirk episode, in any of these shows? Is it because Shatner is just a total dick? The Kirk episode was called "Star Trek Generations".
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From what i’ve read about him: * He’s difficult to negotiate with * He’ll turn down any cameo, in anything, if it involves expensive, time-consuming travel scheduling * He’s insistent upon major screentime * Any hypothetical script for an appearance would have to be meaningful, rather than a “Hey, what’s up?” * Since Kirk would’ve been long dead by the time of TNG, any instance of Kirk showing up would have to be in a flashback They got him for Generations because they told him he’d be a major part of the final act of the movie, involving time travel and an opportunity for a fully fleshed out Kirk performance. And they probably had the budget to pay him handsomely for it, too. There was a plan in the original script for him to appear in 2009’s JJTrek as part of a video recording that Old Spock would show Chris Pine to convince him that he and Spock are actually close friends, but Shatner turned it down because he thought it was fan service-y and pandering. Allegedly, there was a cameo planned for Kirk and Archer to share a scene in Enterprise, but it never got out of the scriptwriting phase.
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That’s all a shame. I mean, you can do anything you want in this show and in these movies, you can handwave anything you want, to make him appear. There are no limits. Zero.
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MrMojok posted:Why no Kirk episode, in any of these shows? Is it because Shatner is just a total dick? Other than Powered Descent posted:The Kirk episode was called "Star Trek Generations". and the explainer he's a pain to work with/schedule, ds9 had Kirk they just used classic TOS Kirk which was the best way to go with it imo
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DesperateDan posted:dull, directionless tng rejects or rewrites That's Voyager's biggest sin. It wasn't bad, it was boring.
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mllaneza posted:That's Voyager's biggest sin. It wasn't bad, it was boring.
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My dad likes Voyager, he considers Janeway his favourite captain.
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What are your father's feelings on Margaret Thatcher
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mllaneza posted:That's Voyager's biggest sin. It wasn't bad, it was boring. If it had all been boring that might have worked a bit better- because when it does work, it works well, and that makes the boring parts even worse
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Voyager S4 is generally pretty good if far too Seven heavy and S5 is just really solid, but those are the only seasons where the good outweighs the blah imo
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S2 was pretty great. In S3 now and I could immediately tell “Remember” was a TNG leftover, lol.
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Is there a good Voyager "essential" viewer's guide? Might try it with my partner after we finish DS9.
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I thought season 2 had a ton of duds in but some gems like The Thaw and the Suder episode, but season 3 did feel like the highest expression of Voyager 1.0 before it got retooled into the Janeway, Seven and The Doctor show. I would really like to see how the show would have developed of most of the cast hadn't been shunted off to one character focus episode per season roles after Seven's introduction
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feedmyleg posted:Is there a good Voyager "essential" viewer's guide? Might try it with my partner after we finish DS9. It’s like Equinox, Scorpion, and Blink of an Eye.
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Gonz posted:And they probably had the budget to pay him handsomely for it, too. Shatner and Nimoy were making $6 million per movie by the time of The Final Frontier. They each took a small pay cut on The Undiscovered Country so DeForest Kelley could finally get his $1 million payday, as he was already in rapidly declining health. Shatner demanded his full $6 million for, what, 30 minutes of screentime in Generations. You can be drat sure that a random episode of TNG wouldn't have had the money for him.
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feedmyleg posted:Is there a good Voyager "essential" viewer's guide? Might try it with my partner after we finish DS9. If you just want the stuff that's dealing with the overall plot then it's probably gonna be about 10 episodes long and you will miss some good stuff- I initially did it a few years back by contrasting a few episode guides that often disagreed on stuff and I feel I missed out on some good stuff on coming back and watching them all because voyager ain't really about the story line drawing from my ever growing excel spreadsheet and combining the ones I gave better scores with those few that are flagged for continuity- s1 Caretaker, state of flux, heroes and demons, faces, learning curve s2 Projections, cold fire, maneuvers, resistance, meld, dreadnought, deadlock, basics s3 The chute, remember, real life, worst case scenario, scorpion s4 (only up to ep9) The gift, day of honour, nemesis, year of hell you need more after that then ask because by then I will probably be slogging through enterprise and ready to claw my own eyes out DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jul 2, 2023 |
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