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it really is funny how rian johnson left the knights of ren out of the throne room in Ep VIII so they could be used in Ep IX I think they compete with Kelly Marie Tran for least amount of screentime
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General Dog posted:I think it's okay to have TV for reactionaries. Wolfsheim posted:it really is funny how rian johnson left the knights of ren out of the throne room in Ep VIII so they could be used in Ep IX 
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Jul 2, 2023 06:50
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Chewie was probably gonna do that sick Krr’stan fatality on one lol.
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Jul 2, 2023 10:47
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Duel of the Fates is not a perfect script, but I feel like it would’ve been a vast improvement on what we actually got.
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Jul 2, 2023 10:50
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Assepoester posted:Cop shows are already like a third of all television produced. One can see how Rey and Kylo taking on the Knights of Ren on a swamp/desert/tree planet would have been better than them taking on faceless red mooks in the Red Snoke Room
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Jul 2, 2023 10:59
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Those faceless red mooks are the Knights of Ren and nothing I saw on screen implied anything otherwise.
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Jul 2, 2023 11:05
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The Knights of Ren as primary antagonists would have saved the ST
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feedmyleg posted:Those guys in the casino are the Knights of Ren and nothing I saw on screen implied anything otherwise.
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Jul 2, 2023 11:24
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Basically the whole trilogy is based on setting stuff up for a sequel that never happens because the actual sequel throws it all out or outright forgets about it to set up new poo poo that never happens.
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Jul 2, 2023 13:11
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caveat TLJ literally directly continues from TFA to its detriment edit: like it would have been 100x better if it time skipped 3 years with finn having a cyborg spine and rey having been trained by luke who is now just with the crew hanging out and kylo got snoke swole but JJ had to end on such a specific cliffhanger that nerds would be annoyed if they skipped the resolution to that lucasfilm basically obligated to continue from that spot
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Jul 2, 2023 13:34
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I mean, not really? Imagine how many copies the tie-in video game, comic or show could have made that bridged that gap.
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Jul 2, 2023 14:33
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Basically the whole trilogy is based on setting stuff up for a sequel that never happens because the actual sequel throws it all out or outright forgets about it to set up new poo poo that never happens. It also doesn't really feel like they ever had a concrete outline for the trilogy planned and just made things up as they went along (not to mention the two competing directors that seemed hellbent on sabotaging each other's plot points)
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Jul 2, 2023 14:46
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For all I know, i more like they had an outline, but than they had another and finally a third one
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Jul 2, 2023 15:13
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Idk, considering the efficient game of exquisite corpse up to IX's pre-production cycle (Rian going to JJ to add/change things for uniformity / Trevorrow asking the same from Rian [which is why the alternate Phasma death scene exists]) it looked more like whatever plan was in place was thrown out the window because of death and deadlines. Not like the deadline thing didn't plague it from the beginning. Brad Bird & Michael Arndt were making Episode VII from George's outline before they dipped because the deadline was too tight. Star Wars movies really need that 3-year cycle. Anything less and, uh, you know...
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Jul 2, 2023 15:27
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They didn't have an outline. Rey taking the name Skywalker and Kylo being redeemed were floated from the start but that was about it.
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Jul 2, 2023 15:29
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MrMojok posted:One can see how Rey and Kylo taking on the Knights of Ren on a swamp/desert/tree planet would have been better than them taking on faceless red mooks in the Red Snoke Room Oh yeah I still lol that that weird opening for Rise of Skywalker of Ren running around a forest flailing at random dudes lol, IIRC they filmed Hux being there too but it wasn't in the final movie.
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Jul 2, 2023 15:52
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I still don’t understand how we got Phasma being defeated, humiliated and left for dead twice without ever getting a payoff in the third film.
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Angry Salami posted:I still don’t understand how we got Phasma being defeated, humiliated and left for dead twice without ever getting a payoff in the third film. Well, as Palpatine showed, you finally die after getting exploded twice, so she'd used up her quota by the second film
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Angry Salami posted:I still don’t understand how we got Phasma being defeated, humiliated and left for dead twice without ever getting a payoff in the third film. Star Wars adheres to the Rule of Two
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General Dog posted:Star Wars adheres to the Rule of Two lol
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Jul 2, 2023 22:44
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It's time..for the Star Wars to end.
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the sequels will continue until morale improves
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Each new sequel will right the wrongs of the last sequel.
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Probably the ideal sequel is maz kanata performing a waiting for godot esque unhinged free associative rant. 2 hours 46 minutes
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No Mods No Masters posted:Probably the ideal sequel is maz kanata performing a waiting for godot esque unhinged free associative rant. 2 hours 46 minutes x3 make it a trilogy
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Jerkface posted:caveat TLJ literally directly continues from TFA to its detriment They could have skipped to a moment when Rey has been training with Luke for some undetermined ammount of time and either do a flashback to their meeting (which would probably suck) or just reference it somehow. Or they could have just ignored it. Nerds would have been annoyed but they were annoyed anyway.
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Basically they didn't have much of a real outline and also kept out throwing out what plans they did have for ill-considered whims. Wildly overreacting to twitter discourse and having no faith in their own material.
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Actually it would have been really interesting to have TLJ open with Finn waking from his medical bacta coma to the brand new status quo some arbitrary time in the future (years?). Ground the entire film from his pov as the main hero character and show the rest of the changes the audience learns as he does. Would have been cool and a better treatment than Boyega got. Captain Jesus posted:They could have skipped to a moment when Rey has been training with Luke for some undetermined ammount of time and either do a flashback to their meeting (which would probably suck) or just reference it somehow. Or they could have just ignored it. Nerds would have been annoyed but they were annoyed anyway. Yea i mean obviously they could have just ignored it or whatever and done a flashback or mentioned it in passing and yea nerds would be upset no matter what because they had a few years to stew on a cliffhanger. Howwver i think lucasfilm basically would force the movie to address it. TFA ended on such a stupid loving cliffhanger that it basically had to be resolved! Even though we know it did not need a direct continuation, but thats because we are not soulless corporate hacks. Jerkface fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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Jerkface posted:Actually it would have been really interesting to have TLJ open with Finn waking from his medical bacta coma to the brand new status quo some arbitrary time in the future (years?). Ground the entire film from his pov as the main hero character and show the rest of the changes the audience learns as he does. I agree with this but I don't think the end of TFA is a cliffhanger - namely the meeting between Luke and Rei. It works more like a MCU post-credit scene and there was no reason for TLJ to pick up exactly at that moment. Audience expects Luke to train Rey which is what happens in the end anyway. The twist is that Luke is unwilling to do it but they still could have started TLJ with Rey hanging out on the island for some time with Luke ignoring her and refusing to train her. In the end it's interesting that TFA and TLJ effectively ended up functioning as a two part movie.
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I agree with the idea of it being kind of like an MCU after credits scene except for star wars its the literal ending scene that cuts to the iconic credits music with the iris out and all the prerelease buzz was about the "epic final shot that will rock audiences" because its the first star wars to end on a helicopter shot or some poo poo. So i get the sentiment but it doesn't work like that at all. They would have been better to have ended it with Rey and the falcon going to hyperspace to find Luke or with Luke actually doing more than grimacing.
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Jerkface posted:Actually it would have been really interesting to have TLJ open with Finn waking from his medical bacta coma to the brand new status quo some arbitrary time in the future (years?). Ground the entire film from his pov as the main hero character and show the rest of the changes the audience learns as he does. Finn waking up covered in medical equipment like Darth Vader is already one of the more interesting scenes in the film, just in a what the visual communicate sense. Shame it's ditched immediately and doesn't go anywhere.
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Jerkface posted:Actually it would have been really interesting to have TLJ open with Finn waking from his medical bacta coma to the brand new status quo some arbitrary time in the future (years?). Ground the entire film from his pov as the main hero character and show the rest of the changes the audience learns as he does. Still wish it had been this: General Dog posted:So did Finn end up in a coma just so he can be our surrogate asking a bunch of questions after the time jump to the beginning of ep 8?
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The Empress's New Groove with Rey and Kylo as Yzma and Kronk to Finn and Poe's Kuzco and Pacha?
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Jerkface posted:I agree with the idea of it being kind of like an MCU after credits scene except for star wars its the literal ending scene that cuts to the iconic credits music with the iris out and all the prerelease buzz was about the "epic final shot that will rock audiences" because its the first star wars to end on a helicopter shot or some poo poo. What do you mean it doesn't work like that at all? That it's impossible not to pick up TLJ immediatelly where TFA ended because it's Star Wars? TLJ was all about doing things differently and in the OT and PT Lucas continued the story between films at whatever point he decided. The Clone Wars get skipped entirely between AOTC and ROTS. There's not cliffhanger to be resolved at the end of TFA. Rey meets Luke and there's nothing that either character needs to do immediatelly.
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had a funny moment when i realised that anakin slaughtering the tusken in episode 2 is drawing a parallel with padme reconciling with the gungans in episode 1, and that her limp reassurances to him is making a point that she didn't actually learn anything from the trade federation's invasion. lmao
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Captain Jesus posted:What do you mean it doesn't work like that at all? That it's impossible not to pick up TLJ immediatelly where TFA ended because it's Star Wars? TLJ was all about doing things differently and in the OT and PT Lucas continued the story between films at whatever point he decided. The Clone Wars get skipped entirely between AOTC and ROTS. There's not cliffhanger to be resolved at the end of TFA. Rey meets Luke and there's nothing that either character needs to do immediatelly. No i am saying it doesnt work in practice like an MCU post credits scene. I agree they could have easily skipped the reunion if not for I am sure the entire executive suite wanting it resolved.
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The post-credit stinger should have been Luke tossing the lightsaber away.
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Grendels Dad posted:The post-credit stinger should have been Luke tossing the lightsaber away. Should've been Luke turning around wearing half a vader mask and igniting a red lightsaber.
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teagone posted:Should've been Luke turning around wearing half a vader mask and igniting a red lightsaber. "I didn't hide, I was locked away! Now DIE, MUAHAHA!"
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