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kronix posted:This is 100% the case. The tiny fraction of an acre I own in the city I live in is worth more than triple the value of the structure on the land which is admittedly nothing fancy. Yup. My parent's home is so valuable because it's in Austin, TX: one of the hottest housing markets in the country right now (though signs are it's slowing/the bubble is bursting?) Anyways the issue in Austin at least is people throw an absolute shitfit any time the city tries to zone things for multi-family housing or build up public transit beyond the most meager increase for bus routes. So it's a traffic nightmare where people aren't even allowed to even try to use the land in semi-efficient ways by building apartments/condos outside of downtown. Which just makes everything more expensive and all the people who throw a fit at multi-unit zoning wonder why their kids are all moving away.
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zoux posted:Austin's also had something like 15-20 percent growth every year for the last 20 years and even the most permissive, forward-thinking, community supported urban plan can't deal with that. So it's grievously compounded by our militant nimbys Wow. What hosed him? Just people seeing and hearing him?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Wow. What hosed him? Just people seeing and hearing him? This, and he's not Trump.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Wow. What hosed him? Just people seeing and hearing him? That and Donald Trump salting his earth. Turns out being a dipshit loudmouth rear end in a top hat fuckface only works for exactly one politician in America. I mean look at this poo poo: https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1674899610379116546?s=20 He's pissing everyone off with this poo poo He's a toad of a man
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DeSantis made a deal with the devil for power, but that devil was Donald Trump.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1674899610379116546?s=20 wow absolutely huge "how do you do fellow zoomers" energy
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zoux posted:That and Donald Trump salting his earth. Turns out being a dipshit loudmouth rear end in a top hat fuckface only works for exactly one politician in America. I mean look at this poo poo: This is the most "meme magic is real" turbocringe ever. Pure loser poo poo that appeals to probably 1 % of Republican voters and nobody over 40.
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zoux posted:Austin's also had something like 15-20 percent growth every year for the last 20 years and even the most permissive, forward-thinking, community supported urban plan can't deal with that. So it's grievously compounded by our militant nimbys By the way, this is before he is even getting close campaign scrutiny.
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At this point I'm pretty sure that even Kamala Harris would beat him in a presidential election. He is such an awkward, hateful little sociopathic worm.
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Ron DeSantis is a sociopath who has a hard time talking to people. He has spent his life putting himself in positions where he is not questioned and is not expected to get anyone's approval. None of this is helping him in the presidential race. He falls apart at the seams when anyone asks him an uncomfortable question. He comes off like a weirdo just talking to people. His mannerisms are forced, and any emotion other than rage and hate seems forced and insincere. Bush won because he was someone you could get a beer with, DeSantis comes off as the RA who would rat you out and expect to be thanked for it.
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zoux posted:Austin's also had something like 15-20 percent growth every year for the last 20 years and even the most permissive, forward-thinking, community supported urban plan can't deal with that. So it's grievously compounded by our militant nimbys I love that is occurring after our dumbass governor endorsed him. I hope that hangs around Kevin Stitt's neck and chokes him.
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Have there been any studies on how your performance in a presidential primary effects you in your home district? I'd imagine there's some correlation since presidential races tend to dig up a bunch of dirt and expose weaknesses that might not surface in state-level politics. Basically, if DeSantis tanks in the primary is there any chance that could hurt him in Florida? Not that he can run again for Governor but I'm guessing he'd angle for a Senate seat if he doesn't get the presidency.
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Meatball posted:Ron DeSantis is a sociopath who has a hard time talking to people. He has spent his life putting himself in positions where he is not questioned and is not expected to get anyone's approval. None of this is helping him in the presidential race. Yeah, DeSantis never stood a chance against Trump. Trump, whether you like it or not, has Charisma. Boorish and oafish, sure, but he knows how to use it. And he knows how to work a crowd. Plus he has decades, drat near generations, of Neutral-to-Positive name recognition from before he ever set his sights on politics. And his political career, no matter how objectively bad it is/was, makes his zealots very happy and very vocal and very willing to mobilize on his behalf. He's the Ronald Reagan of a new generation.
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Happy Victory at Gettysburg day everybody! On the afternoon of July 3 the Battle of Gettysburg ended in a crushing rebel defeat when the brilliant military genius R.E. Lee decided to slowly march across a mile-wide+ field that every gun in the Army of the Potomac was sighted on. Somehow, despite the fact that Lee was an unbeatable genius this giant block of racist traitors got turned into red mist and screams in the course of about 90 minutes on 03 July 1863. Let's all take a minute and watch the complete destruction of 15,000+ rebels and the end of R.E. Lee's reputation as some sort of unbeatable savant. If you have autoplay on you can just click the first one, but I'll link them all individually in case you want to go back and watch any of the slo-mo shots of dying rebels flying through the air or Lee's bumbling "all my fault" speech at the end to his ragged remnants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7bYDBj_eA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ptN5K4Vy8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3GGgcgDXFk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09m4X5FG5vc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI2eq-Tr358 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnFk3lnDShc And maybe raise a glass or BBQ a dog today or tomorrow in honor of America's forgotten hero, victor of Gettysburg and slayer of Lee's reputation, George Meade, imo the best general of the Civil War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Meade Oh also this happened tomorrow morning, kind of what the boxing guys call a 1-2 combo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vicksburg#Capture In these lost, late days, we can all learn something from the Grand Army of the Republic. Don't lose heart! Don't stop fighting! You don't win every fight, and sometimes you get whipped. But fight on! We beat them in 1865, we beat them in 1945, and we'll beat them now! 
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the_steve posted:He's the Ronald Reagan of a new generation. Isn't he more the new Ronald Reagan for the same generation (i.e. boomers)? Obviously he has some young supporters too but I thought most of his base was white male boomers. Seph fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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JonathonSpectre posted:Happy Victory at Gettysburg day everybody! On the afternoon of July 3 the Battle of Gettysburg ended in a crushing rebel defeat when the brilliant military genius R.E. Lee decided to slowly march across a mile-wide+ field that every gun in the Army of the Potomac was sighted on. Somehow, despite the fact that Lee was an unbeatable genius this giant block of racist traitors got turned into red mist and screams in the course of about 90 minutes on 03 July 1863. I make an effort to remind myself that my enimeis are human beings and living creatures are deserving of some level of respect. But sometimes folks just need killing, and "army fighting to keep other humans as property" is a group that just need killing as there's no other way to get them to stop.
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the_steve posted:Yeah, DeSantis never stood a chance against Trump. I just got back from Pigeon Forge, TN. There were THREE Trump stores selling "patriotic" merch. These weren't people on a street corner in a tent. These were actual stores in strip centers off of the main drag. Nobody ain't doing that kind of poo poo for DeSantis.
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My chud sister is currently rather enamored of JFKIII because Catholic antivaxxer. It’ll be interesting to see how much support he peels off Republicans/Trump supporters looking for an alternative.
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Oracle posted:My chud sister is currently rather enamored of JFKIII because Catholic antivaxxer. It’ll be interesting to see how much support he peels off Republicans/Trump supporters looking for an alternative. I would say basically none because he'll never be running against any Republicans or Trump. Maybe a very small number of people decide to vote in the DNC primaries instead of the RNC primaries in their state, but I can't see that being enough to swing anything - people don't like voting in the other party's primaries, it's a political identity issue.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:giga-micr The racial breakdown is not encouraging, with only black people having a majority opposing the ruling. Seems like the eight's done quite an effective job here of turning minorities against each other. quote:And there are deep divisions between racial groups. Most white people (60%) and Asian people (58%) approve of the Supreme Court's decision to limit the use of race in college admissions, while only 25% of Black people support the decision. Hispanic people are split, with 40% approving and 40% disapproving. It's also worth noting that they also polled the Supreme Court ruling on student loan forgiveness and the anti-gay marriage ruling, and while the respondents were rather split on them, both decisions had majorities in favor: quote:In the new ABC News/Ipsos poll, 45% of Americans support the Supreme Court's decision to strike down Biden's student loan forgiveness program, while 40% disapprove of the decision. quote:Another landmark decision was handed down this week by the Supreme Court, which ruled for an evangelical Christian website designer in a case involving whether creative businesses can refuse to serve LGBTQ+ customers, citing free speech under the First Amendment. That tends to suggest that neither issue is going to become the locus of a massive public backlash. It's just more fodder for the "politics is deeply divided in this country" narrative.
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Seph posted:Isn't he more the new Ronald Reagan for the same generation (i.e. boomers)? Obviously he has some young supporters too but I thought most of his base was white male boomers. Not really; the 45+ demo was pretty evenly split between Trump & Biden, although Trump had an edge among xers and olds (including silents), according to CNN's exit polling:  It's apples-to-oranges for 2024 (and way too early for decisive polling) but according to the latest yougov polling, Trump holds a lead among all age groups 30 and up.  According to the yougov crosstabs 83 percent of Biden's 2020 voters plan to vote for him again while 92 percent of Trump's voters plan to vote for him again. eta: Dang, I wonder how the student-loan stuff will affect the millennial vote given that it was nearly tied in the yougov polling before the court decision. etaa: link to yougov poll Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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Oracle posted:My chud sister is currently rather enamored of JFKIII because Catholic antivaxxer. It’ll be interesting to see how much support he peels off Republicans/Trump supporters looking for an alternative. He's not running as a Republican, and he won't be running in the general election, so there's no chance of him affecting the GOP vote. efb but eta Civilized Fishbot posted:I would say basically none because he'll never be running against any Republicans or Trump. Maybe a very small number of people decide to vote in the DNC primaries instead of the RNC primaries in their state, but I can't see that being enough to swing anything - people don't like voting in the other party's primaries, it's a political identity issue. There's no way the DNC would honor delegates from states going against the DNC's wishlist schedule. iow, there's a chance RFK could win NH if Dems abandon it, but then the DNC would block those delegates from counting toward a nomination at the convention. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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Civilized Fishbot posted:I would say basically none because he'll never be running against any Republicans or Trump. Maybe a very small number of people decide to vote in the DNC primaries instead of the RNC primaries in their state, but I can't see that being enough to swing anything - people don't like voting in the other party's primaries, it's a political identity issue. Surely he’s delusional enough to run as an independent in the general?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Surely he’s delusional enough to run as an independent in the general? Just bc someone has weird stances doesn't mean they're going to run third party, lol, especially when they're chaos agents for the GOP. And just bc someone runs third party doesn't mean they have weird stances.
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Part of the issue on the LGBT website case is that the reporting on it has been pretty bad. I didn't know until I saw a comment here that the case was based on an obviously made-up client request, and that the whole thing should have been dismissed for standing. And until I read an op-ed in the LA Times, I didn't realize that it was ruled on free (hypothetical) speech grounds, not religious grounds, so that bigots don't even need to show that their religion prevents them from doing something. Instead, the ruling is straight-up "anti-discrimination laws don't apply to creative businesses". And this is all anti-discrimination laws, not just ones protecting LGBT people. The decision majorly sucks, but I don't think people know how much it sucks.
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Willa Rogers posted:Just bc someone has weird stances doesn't mean they're going to run third party, lol, especially when they're chaos agents for the GOP. A rich piece of poo poo is beholden to no one.
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I AM GRANDO posted:A rich piece of poo poo is beholden to no one. Yeah but the last time a rich piece of poo poo had a third-party influence was Perot in 1992, and he did so well debating against Bush & Clinton the two major parties made sure that would never happen again. I understand the need for Democrats to wishcast anything that would stop Trump from running against Biden again--from criminal indictments to DeSantis taking the nomination (as of last year; now it's lol) to gadfly third-party runs except for the Greens (who Dems will work to knock off ballots)--but honestly, the only way Trump isn't running against Biden at this point is if one of the two dies.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Wow. What hosed him? Just people seeing and hearing him? Maybe it's blending in with the bootlicks whenever Trump runs into trouble instead of doing something novel like actually running against him. JonathonSpectre posted:In these lost, late days, we can all learn something from the Grand Army of the Republic. Don't lose heart! Don't stop fighting! You don't win every fight, and sometimes you get whipped. But fight on! Just think, in order for it to have gotten to this point, the Union generals had to be worse. Significantly so, in order to squander a clear economic advantage that should have crushed the rebellion much more thoroughly from the outset. Name Change fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jul 3, 2023 |
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VikingofRock posted:Part of the issue on the LGBT website case is that the reporting on it has been pretty bad. I didn't know until I saw a comment here that the case was based on an obviously made-up client request, and that the whole thing should have been dismissed for standing. And until I read an op-ed in the LA Times, I didn't realize that it was ruled on free (hypothetical) speech grounds, not religious grounds, so that bigots don't even need to show that their religion prevents them from doing something. Instead, the ruling is straight-up "anti-discrimination laws don't apply to creative businesses". And this is all anti-discrimination laws, not just ones protecting LGBT people. The case wasn't based on a made-up client request. The comment here was wrong, it was a goon misinterpreting things and jumping to conclusions. A fake client request was occasionally mentioned in the filings, but the case wasn't based on that request or any other, and no actual request was needed to establish standing. It was a pre-enforcement challenge, based on the likelihood that the plaintiff might get such a request in the future.
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zoux posted:That and Donald Trump salting his earth. Turns out being a dipshit loudmouth rear end in a top hat fuckface only works for exactly one politician in America. I mean look at this poo poo: What the everloving christ with the last 2/3 of that ad. He is so lame. Why doesn't he just quit now before all his donors bail. On the one hand I am not at all happy about the prospect of Trump just sailing to the nomination against a bunch of nimrods who won't even run against him at all aside from Christie and Asa Hutchinson (whatever this... is from DeSantis doesn't count at all IMO). But on the other hand, lmfao at DeSantis and gently caress him. Most hilarious option would be if Trump gets torpedoed by legal troubles or his health, and one of these other randos slides right in front of DeSantis to the nomination.
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Zwabu posted:What the everloving christ with the last 2/3 of that ad. He is so lame. Why doesn't he just quit now before all his donors bail. As far as I'm aware, nothing about Trump's current legal troubles will prevent him from running. I'm not even sure any of his legal troubles will strip him of supporters, but that is speculation. His health, on the other hand - he can afford the absolute best health care in the world. It's a crapshoot to bet on that.
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Shooting Blanks posted:As far as I'm aware, nothing about Trump's current legal troubles will prevent him from running. I'm not even sure any of his legal troubles will strip him of supporters, but that is speculation. His health, on the other hand - he can afford the absolute best health care in the world. It's a crapshoot to bet on that. Eh I wouldn't count on any of that which is why my baseline assumption right now is that Trump will simply slide into the nomination, and this thought gives me no joy.
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Oracle posted:My chud sister is currently rather enamored of JFKIII because Catholic antivaxxer. It’ll be interesting to see how much support he peels off Republicans/Trump supporters looking for an alternative. Do you mean RFK Jr. here? There's no JFKIII. JPKIII (Joseph Patrick Kennedy III) isn't an anti-vaxxer and is currently not running for anything.
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Seph posted:Isn't he more the new Ronald Reagan for the same generation (i.e. boomers)? Obviously he has some young supporters too but I thought most of his base was white male boomers. Is it actually true that most of his base is white male hookers, looking at the breakdown of his voters in 2020?
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Name Change posted:Just think, in order for it to have gotten to this point, the Union generals had to be worse. Significantly so, in order to squander a clear economic advantage that should have crushed the rebellion much more thoroughly from the outset. Just think if Texas and Florida were in a different country and unable to influence American politics.
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Alkydere posted:Yup. My parent's home is so valuable because it's in Austin, TX: one of the hottest housing markets in the country right now (though signs are it's slowing/the bubble is bursting?) Anyways the issue in Austin at least is people throw an absolute shitfit any time the city tries to zone things for multi-family housing or build up public transit beyond the most meager increase for bus routes. So it's a traffic nightmare where people aren't even allowed to even try to use the land in semi-efficient ways by building apartments/condos outside of downtown. Which just makes everything more expensive and all the people who throw a fit at multi-unit zoning wonder why their kids are all moving away. Here in lovely progressive Southern California, people have absolute shitfits whenever a new mixed-use condo complex goes up. Even the notices and plans for such housing gets roasted by locals who scream about the changing "landscape" of our suburb. And since the governor has eased restrictions for many of these developments, people have started screaming about city councilmembers being bought out. Even the statewide push to allow denser developments in residential zones has been met with resistance everywhere, for local councils to "research" it more. On the flipside, there are a handful of superfund sites in industrial areas that developers are targeting for housing and the last thing we need are cancer cluster death traps.
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Byzantine posted:Just think if Texas and Florida were in a different country and unable to influence American politics. Just think if texans got to have their votes actually counted and the state government reflected the opinion of most texans
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Sax Mortar posted:Do you mean RFK Jr. here? Yes there’s too many goddamn legacy Kennedies
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