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What is the most powerful flying bug? This poll is closed. |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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rodbeard posted:war is bad you dont know that
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Jul 4, 2023 06:53
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KomradeX posted:The route they were supposed to take was shelled, a route known to both sides and told dont shell here today, so why would the Russians do this? I think it's possible that either or both sides ignored that warning because hey, it's war. Cooler heads don't always prevail. One side shot first, the other side shot back, etc. I don't think there was as much thought put into it as you're assuming.
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Jul 4, 2023 06:54
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KomradeX posted:I thought all octopus imagery was now irredeemably antisemitic? 
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Jul 4, 2023 06:54
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yellowcar posted:there's also that whole joint resolution by linsdey graham and richard blumenthal introduced that if russia blows up the nuclear plant, the US will invoke article 5 Yeah but that's non-binding and it's not going to pass anyway.
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Jul 4, 2023 06:55
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Majorian posted:That's great and all but there are a lot of oligarchs running the country who would very much like to use that area to make money, and they're the ones who make the decisions, not poster boy Zelensky. how much money are those oligarchs going to get from that land if it's occupied by russia
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Jul 4, 2023 06:56
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not gonna stop the ukrainians from trying anyway and they got every reason to!
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Jul 4, 2023 06:56
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Majorian posted:I think it's possible that either or both sides ignored that warning because hey, it's war. Cooler heads don't always prevail. One side shot first, the other side shot back, etc. I don't think there was as much thought put into it as you're assuming. Why would the Russians ignore it? Why? Why? loving why?
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Jul 4, 2023 06:58
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KomradeX posted:Why would the Russians ignore it? Why? Why? loving why? Here's one possibility: quote:Moscow accused Ukrainian forces of trying to seize the plant hours before the IAEA team was due to arrive. crepeface posted:how much money are those oligarchs going to get from that land if it's occupied by russia They think they're going to get it all back, though. Majorian has issued a correction as of 07:04 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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Jul 4, 2023 07:01
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Majorian posted:Here's one possibility: Thats not the route the IAEA was on though. Jesus loving Christ
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Jul 4, 2023 07:06
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KomradeX posted:Thats not the route the IAEA was on though. Jesus loving Christ Where are you getting your information for what happened on that day?
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Jul 4, 2023 07:07
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Just another article and some quotes from it. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/world/europe/iaea-visit-zaporizhzhia-nuclear.html "The New York Times posted:after an artillery bombardment forced operators to shut down one reactor and switch another to emergency power, highlighting the immense risks of combat around a site loaded with radioactive material. I also want to add that that nuclear power plants need electricity and water to continue to function. Loss of either of them can cause a meltdown. A meltdown also doesn't always mean a release of radioactive material. Three (3) Mile Island was a (partial) meltdown and it released very little radioactivity. The same is true in reverse, you can have a release of radioactive material without a meltdown. A meltdown is just when the radioactive material in the reactors can't be cooled sufficiently and then literally melts into a liquid, it then often melts it's way through the bottom of the reactor housing. This is really bad for the operation of that reactor and is how we got the elephant's foot from Chernobyl. 
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Jul 4, 2023 07:09
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trying to both sides this issue when it's really obvious that only one side is desperate enough to blow up a nuclear plant and has already demonstrated that they were desperate enough to blow up other vital infrastructure before
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Jul 4, 2023 07:10
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yellowcar posted:trying to both sides this issue when it's really obvious that only one side is desperate enough to blow up a nuclear plant and has already demonstrated that they were desperate enough to blow up other vital infrastructure before Pretending like blowing up a dam and causing a Chernobyl-level meltdown and breach are the same thing. This thread is better when it isn't consumed with conspiracy-brained nonsense like this imo.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:12
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Majorian posted:Pretending like blowing up a dam and causing a Chernobyl-level meltdown and breach are the same thing. it's an escalation that's for sure also destroying a dam is not nothing dude
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Jul 4, 2023 07:13
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Majorian posted:Where are you getting your information for what happened on that day? From many of the same articles people have been posting at you all day to no avail. So fine gently caress it you're right the Russians are doing it. Or its unknowable who is shooting at the power plant, who destroyed those dams, and who destroyed Nordstreams. Could have been loving anybody, maybe Poland hired the Diamond Dogs we'll never know because certainity is impossible in life
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Jul 4, 2023 07:13
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fascists going scorched earth when they're losing is not a reach or a huge leap in logic lol
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Jul 4, 2023 07:16
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yellowcar posted:it's an escalation that's for sure I never said it was nothing (I said the opposite, in fact), that's you projecting. KomradeX posted:From many of the same articles people have been posting at you all day to no avail. Post one that backs up what you're claiming. That's all I ask. Majorian has issued a correction as of 07:19 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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Jul 4, 2023 07:17
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I did NOT expect majorian to turn mlmp
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Jul 4, 2023 07:20
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oh no, majorian has had a relapse of dnd-brain. my sympathies to all those affected.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:20
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Slavvy posted:I did NOT expect majorian to turn mlmp the counter offensive being a huge failure(so far) broke a lot of brains
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Jul 4, 2023 07:20
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Slavvy posted:I did NOT expect majorian to turn mlmp I didn't expect this thread to turn into a mirror of the GBS thread, complete with harebrained conspiracy theorizing. But here we are, sadly.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:21
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yellowcar posted:there's also that whole joint resolution by linsdey graham and richard blumenthal introduced that if russia blows up the nuclear plant, the US will invoke article 5 I cast a spell of article 5 at the gazebo. I roll 1d4 for damage, uh, a 3. Does the gazebo die?
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Jul 4, 2023 07:21
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Majorian posted:I never said it was nothing, that's you projecting. as far as the only thing that's concerned (deliberately caused ecological disasters with the goal of causing potentially huge death tolls) they might as well be the same thing!
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Jul 4, 2023 07:22
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yellowcar posted:as far as the only thing that's concerned (deliberately caused ecological disasters with the goal of causing potentially huge death tolls) they might as well be the same thing! Indeed, all deliberately-caused ecological crises are the same, there are no differences in degrees. 
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Jul 4, 2023 07:23
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Majorian posted:Indeed, all ecological crises are the same, there are no differences in degrees. like i said, only one side is in a desperate enough situation to escalate right now
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Jul 4, 2023 07:24
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Nobody ITT even gets electricity from the ZPP or water from the Dniepr. "Mind your own business," that's my motto.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:24
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yellowcar posted:like i said, only one side is in a desperate enough situation to escalate right now Neither side believes they're in a desperate situation, though.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:25
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Majorian posted:I never said it was nothing (I said the opposite, in fact), that's you projecting. Go back and read some of the articles airway posted. People have already posted the sources
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Jul 4, 2023 07:25
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Majorian posted:Neither side believes they're in a desperate situation, though. which side is clamoring for F-16s and NATO involvement right now?
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Jul 4, 2023 07:27
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Majorian posted:Neither side believes they're in a desperate situation, though. Thats loving absurd on its face value. If Ukraine didn't think they were in a desperate situation they wouldn't just be doing massive sweeps for bodies to throw at Russian minefields and begging the West for 25 year old F-16s and more and more tanks
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Jul 4, 2023 07:27
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yellowcar posted:which side is clamoring for F-16s and NATO involvement right now? That doesn't suggest desperation, though. That just means that they want to win the war, not have things bogged down in an interminable stalemate, which is what the situation is now and for the foreseeable future. KomradeX posted:Go back and read some of the articles airway posted. People have already posted the sources I read them when they were first posted. None of them back up what you're claiming. Majorian has issued a correction as of 07:32 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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Jul 4, 2023 07:30
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sending in
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Jul 4, 2023 07:32
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Majorian posted:We don't know that someone is shooting at the plant deliberately. Stray shots happen in war. We have Mlmp at home.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:34
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Orange Devil posted:We have Mlmp at home. I'm just saying, war brings out the dumbest in all of us.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:35
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1676105404411961344?s=20quote:Update: Five UAVs attempted to attack Moscow and Moscow region on Tuesday morning, all of them destroyed - Ministry of Defense
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Jul 4, 2023 07:36
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Orange Devil posted:We have Mlmp at home.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:37
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Not me, mass death increases my intelligence.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:38
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Orange Devil posted:Not me, mass death increases my intelligence. drat, if you survive the next few decades, you're gonna be so smart.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:40
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we actually have info that russia is going to attack the ZPP to cause radiation release fizzy posted:Worrying news for Ukraine - Ukrainian intelligence agencies have received information showing Russia is considering carrying out a “terrorist” attack at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant involving a release of radiation.
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Jul 4, 2023 07:44
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Majorian posted:Neither side believes they're in a desperate situation, though. mlmporian do you think this sounds like a desperate situation for ukraine
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Jul 4, 2023 07:47
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