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Rome is my favorite tv show of all time but I’m glad it ended when it did. Any further and the characters would be the same age after 100 years. And the whole Christianity subplot they were setting up for seasons 3&4 where apparently Pullo was either going to spear Jesus on the cross and/found Christianity sounds like maximum cringe.
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pullo spearing jesus and then just walking off whistling would have been extremely funny tho. vorenus standing around watching in exasperation i agree that him being a founder of christianity would have been really cringe. one of the best parts of rome is pullo's relationship with religion because it feels so very alien and mercenary to a modern western mind but was actually very normal to the romans
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Jul 4, 2023 02:07
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:I believe they changed it from the book it's based on. As someone who works in Big Pharma, this is a pretty hard watch still. The movie ending is the original planned ending for the book. Adams editor talked him into changing the ending of the book before it was published.
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Jul 4, 2023 02:18
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:The TV IV thread for Righteous Gemstones poo poo-talking Eastbound & Down is getting me all fired up gently caress those people
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Jul 4, 2023 02:37
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Vapor Moon posted:The movie ending is the original planned ending for the book. Adams editor talked him into changing the ending of the book before it was published. The dogs should die, they ate human flesh. It wasn't a person they killed but still I don't want a dog in my house who knows how sweet human meat tastes
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Jul 4, 2023 02:39
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:The TV IV thread for Righteous Gemstones poo poo-talking Eastbound & Down is getting me all fired up We should forums invade TVIV and give them what fore
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Jazerus posted:pullo spearing jesus and then just walking off whistling would have been extremely funny tho. vorenus standing around watching in exasperation Americans have the same type of religion, we just believe in things that have slightly more truth to them. Like after you cut up a bunch of raw chicken, you don't use the same cutting board to slice cucumbers. This is because of tiny little microbes that you've never seen, but know exist, because everyone tells you they're there. Same with the Romans. They might have said you can't cook x food in y pot after boiling z, because this or that god says it's wrong and everyone knows it to be true. That might be nonsense, but it's using the same part of the human brain that we use for our slightly more fact based life. They didn't live in a dream space where they believed gods physically walked among them, they ordered their lives based on what the experts told them and the conventional wisdom was. They were not more religious or less rational than we are but they chalked up a lot more of the mysteries of day to day life to the actions of unseeable gods. Example: imagine that you are plugging in some sketchily rigged up Christmas lights like Clark Griswold. A 2023 man might go "Please, God, let this work." An ancient Roman might say a prayer to a god of electricity or a god of lights.
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Jul 4, 2023 02:53
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Santa is on the same level as Hermes and the Easter Bunny is way more dumb than Cloacina
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If you want to scratch a little of your Watership Down/Plague Dogs itch, watch Housebroken. There's two seasons! It's short, sweet, and unchallenging. The vocal performances are great, the jokes are okay, and the whole thing just slides over you like a light drizzle in late April
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Americans have the same type of religion, we just believe in things that have slightly more truth to them. i think we're talking about different things or you misunderstood me or something. i am referring to the transactional nature of roman religion, not romans living in a dream space or being less rational or w/e. like literally the first thing pullo does as a character is make a vow - hey, forculus, get my rear end out of jail please, i'll give you a lamb or six pigeons if you do. this is Strange from a christian perspective because pullo is not devoted to forculus. he doesn't worship the guy. this isn't a prayer. that's not how it works. the romans are totally using a rational system here and that is what is weird. the modern western conception of religion is founded on a core irrationality - in roman terms, a "mystery". they had these too, the cults of mithras and isis and all that, but mystery religions weren't the norm among the romans until christianity won out. why did jesus dying on the cross save everyone from original sin? complicated metaphysical poo poo. why does jupiter help the roman state? because they give him cows on the regular. jupiter isn't mysterious, he's a dude motivated by the rational desire to grill. he doesn't care if you "believe in him", it's not even a coherent concept from a traditional roman perspective.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Richard Adams rules. He wrote a novel called "Maia" that's very very skeevy
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Jul 4, 2023 03:34
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Started watching cheers. This show rules
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Jazerus posted:i think we're talking about different things or you misunderstood me or something. i am referring to the transactional nature of roman religion, not romans living in a dream space or being less rational or w/e. like literally the first thing pullo does as a character is make a vow - hey, forculus, get my rear end out of jail please, i'll give you a lamb or six pigeons if you do. this is Strange from a christian perspective because pullo is not devoted to forculus. he doesn't worship the guy. this isn't a prayer. that's not how it works. The point I was trying to make is that the Romans didn't think things were weird. They believed in a world where everything they didn't have a direct explanation for was the work of the gods. We, the people of 2023, believe in things that we can't see in the same way. I'm saying the Romans are very rational people in our exact way. You're saying they're rational but in a different way.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The point I was trying to make is that the Romans didn't think things were weird. nobody said otherwise
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The poster was saying that rational Romans used a different system than us, I'm saying it's the same system with different names for things
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The poster was saying that rational Romans used a different system than us, I'm saying it's the same system with different names for things you are trying to extend my argument into this realm of analogizing their religious practice to science and that's not what i'm talking about. i agree with you entirely that roman religion and most ancient religions more broadly are a sort of proto-science. a system of rationally understanding the world and figuring out "what works", set formulas derived through experience and experimentation. my point is that this doesn't even fall into the category of "religion" as understood by most people today and that it is cool that the writers of rome clearly understood this and went to pains to depict it from like the second scene onward. it is a common mistake in media to depict classical religion as involving worship in an abrahamic sense because it doesn't even occur to the writers that it wouldn't. Jazerus has issued a correction as of 05:26 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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I've watched Rome endlessly and I see what you're saying but I do think they made them more practically superstitious than they should've
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Servillia's ceremony for the dead Caesar is the best depiction of Roman religion before or since
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watching the first episode of the new season of warriors and loling at the black market guy literally doing a guided tour for rich white women reframing another characters backstory as a bootstraps girlboss fantasy
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Jul 4, 2023 05:57
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warriors owns and anyone whos annoyed at me bitching about the koreans all the time might be interested to know that warriors uses basically none of the obnoxious tropes that korean americans insist on shoving into all their stories
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what tropes are those
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basically we love america and are ashamed of where we came from especially the part about loving our mothers
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Electric Dreams is up there and that movie is a hoot It has a great soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUN2Csrr-yU
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what are some other good night-heavy, ideally somewhat neon, movies shot in like dingy grimey 80s LA/SF/NYC like Miracle Mile, After Hours, Escape from NY, Big Trouble in Little China, etc?
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you like the kinda campy stuff a la robocop or videodrome? Something fun like police story? there's lots of hong kong movies like Fallen Angels, Infernal Affairs. technically not what you asked but vibe is good Thief? Blowout?
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Cruising pretty much anything by Paul Schrader and Abel Ferrara.
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if you wanna watch a badass 80s movie watch the original The Vanishing, called Spoorloos edit: this is nothing like what you asked I just can't believe I never heard of this film I put it on and it's an all time good film Big Bad Idiot has issued a correction as of 08:43 on Jul 4, 2023 |
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Mr Hootington posted:We should forums invade TVIV and give them what fore I'm simply flabbergasted that someone could enjoy Righteous Gemstones and Vice Principals but describe Eastbound as "unfunny dogshit" To each their own I guess lol
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quote:Vietnam bans Barbie movie over disputed South China Sea map https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/4/vietnam-bans-barbie-movie-over-disputed-south-china-sea-map
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can something be socialist and not socialist at the same time?
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ArmZ posted:can something be socialist and not socialist at the same time? triangle of sadness
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ArmZ posted:https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/4/vietnam-bans-barbie-movie-over-disputed-south-china-sea-map 
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This is the map apparently. https://imgur.io/V8YTjzJ Edit: cant embed, enjoy the link instead.
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Yadoppsi posted:This is the map apparently. .io doesn't seem to work https://imgur.com/V8YTjzJ
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Yadoppsi posted:This is the map apparently.  it is also alleged that since Vietnam never actually said which scene it was that had a map, that there's a much more clear map depiction somewhere else in the movie, and that it's "pro-China trolls" that are spreading this particular scene around to make critics sound silly for getting hung up on it
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video of a chastened John Cena apologizing in Vietnamese
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Some Guy TT posted:warriors owns and anyone whos annoyed at me bitching about the koreans all the time might be interested to know that warriors uses basically none of the obnoxious tropes that korean americans insist on shoving into all their stories what tropes are those?
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Mr Hootington posted:Started watching cheers. This show rules Ted Danson has a scene in "The Good Place" where he plays a bartender and he's just playing Sam Malone and it made me smile so wide my face hurt.
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/04/barney-the-dinosaur-film-daniel-kaluuyaquote:Daniel Kaluuya’s Barney the Dinosaur film to be ‘adult’ and ‘lean into millennial angst’
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I love you You love me This film grapples with ennui
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