Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

A little weird to be seeing 2’s since Palladian cards usually set minions to 1/3

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist

RatHat posted:

Huh. Weird card, it’s hard to judge without seeing the rest of Paladin’s cards

Really? It just seems generically good to me. Empowered when you’re ahead, Pacified if you’re behind, Reinforced if you need more value. The only time it seems outright bad is if you’re way behind on life and at risk of being burned out. It also takes buffs really well; a single additional point of attack is enough that it kills minions it sets to 2/2.

I’m not sure this card wouldn’t see play even if Empowered was the only ability.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Feels like it'll be hard to remove too since you either have to silence it, clear it, or hit it at least 4 times.

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
It having 1 attack gives me physical harm

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids



Ok, I'll admit that this felt a little cheap

Lurks With Wolves
Jan 14, 2013

At least I don't dance with them, right?

bravesword posted:

Really? It just seems generically good to me. Empowered when you’re ahead, Pacified if you’re behind, Reinforced if you need more value. The only time it seems outright bad is if you’re way behind on life and at risk of being burned out. It also takes buffs really well; a single additional point of attack is enough that it kills minions it sets to 2/2.

I’m not sure this card wouldn’t see play even if Empowered was the only ability.

I'm just worried about how many Paladin minions are still good when transformed into two-mana 2/2s. You're going to have to use that ability eventually if your annoying-to-kill 1/8 doesn't die, and there's a lot of minions where that's just a downside. (Technically any misses on that ability would be like the old Tracking thing where bad pulls may as well have been on the bottom of your deck, but at least with Tracking you can choose to not ruin your win condition. Amitus just kinda does what they do.)

AnacondaHL
Feb 15, 2009

I'm the lead trumpet player, playing loud and high is all I know how to do.

review season is always so goofy

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
Khaz'goroth honestly looks really solid, it gives me Siamat vibes

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Worst case the Warrior Titan is either...

6 mana 9/4 Battlecry: Give your hero +5 Attack this turn and deal 9 damage to a random enemy minion

6 mana 4/9 Battlecry: Gain 5 Armor and deal 4 damage to a random enemy minion

6 mana 6/6 Battlecry: Draw a weapon and deal 6 damage to a random enemy minion

That seems fine.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Color Printer posted:

Worst case the Warrior Titan is either...

6 mana 9/4 Battlecry: Give your hero +5 Attack this turn and deal 9 damage to a random enemy minion

6 mana 4/9 Battlecry: Gain 5 Armor and deal 4 damage to a random enemy minion

6 mana 6/6 Battlecry: Draw a weapon and deal 6 damage to a random enemy minion

That seems fine.

assuming there are enemy minions on board

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Oh right, I guess there's that condition

bravesword
Apr 13, 2012

Silent Protagonist

Lurks With Wolves posted:

I'm just worried about how many Paladin minions are still good when transformed into two-mana 2/2s. You're going to have to use that ability eventually if your annoying-to-kill 1/8 doesn't die, and there's a lot of minions where that's just a downside. (Technically any misses on that ability would be like the old Tracking thing where bad pulls may as well have been on the bottom of your deck, but at least with Tracking you can choose to not ruin your win condition. Amitus just kinda does what they do.)

The only really bad hits are minions where most of the value is in the stats-to-mana ratio, mostly Sanguine Soldier and Lightray. (And hopefully you’ll have filtered out most of the one-drops out of your deck before Amitus comes down anyway.) Things like Countess, Purator, and Leviathan are usually going to be better because they’re cheaper, easier to weave into turns alongside other things, and most of the value comes from their abilities. And then you’ve got cards in the middle range like Class Action Lawyer and Muckborn Servant where it technically takes off a little in stats, but by the point in the game where it comes up, who cares.

And you don’t have to use the third ability if it’s going to be a problem. Oh no, I can’t attack for one with my Mogu’shan Warden that’s already lived two turns and provided me enormous value, what shall I do.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

AnacondaHL posted:

review season is always so goofy


I WILL SAY LITERALLY ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOU CLICK THIS AND I GET PAID

Streamers are a mistake.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

Shockeh posted:

I WILL SAY LITERALLY ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOU CLICK THIS AND I GET PAID

Streamers are a mistake.

There's a music reviewer I like on YouTube who's titles are all poo poo like "00's songs THAT SUCK! Unless they don't?"

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Lurks With Wolves posted:

I'm just worried about how many Paladin minions are still good when transformed into two-mana 2/2s. You're going to have to use that ability eventually if your annoying-to-kill 1/8 doesn't die, and there's a lot of minions where that's just a downside. (Technically any misses on that ability would be like the old Tracking thing where bad pulls may as well have been on the bottom of your deck, but at least with Tracking you can choose to not ruin your win condition. Amitus just kinda does what they do.)

I think if you load your deck with high value battlecries it's fine, rather than relying on well statted minions in the deck.

Mr Beens
Dec 2, 2006

Shockeh posted:

I WILL SAY LITERALLY ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOU CLICK THIS AND I GET PAID

Streamers are a mistake.

Zeddy is the worst

avantgardener
Sep 16, 2003

Excelzior posted:

minor balance patch coming

Death Blossom Whomper getting nerfed (probably reverted to 6 mana)

in Twist,we're getting 3 bans : Glide (DH), Crypt-Keeper (Druid), Refreshing Spring Water (Mage)

bunch of BG armor and minion changes

https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/1676259587630981124

I winder if the twist bans will lead to dust refunds? Guessing probably not although I did just almost recraft the dh quest for twist and won't now if its getting nerfed.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

bravesword posted:

And you don’t have to use the third ability if it’s going to be a problem. Oh no, I can’t attack for one with my Mogu’shan Warden that’s already lived two turns and provided me enormous value, what shall I do.

Your Mogu'shan Warden that makes ALL your minions take 2 damage at most while it's on the field. Do you have a bunch of 3 health minions on the board, while your opponent has no means to get rid of your titan? That means they're safe from flamestrike. Or they can attack into high attack minions without dying. So if the draw ability would be bad in a specific situation, you can just not use it, and the most you lose is one damage per turn.

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

Shockeh posted:

I WILL SAY LITERALLY ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOU CLICK THIS AND I GET PAID

Streamers are a mistake.

Teddy and Regis, and other streamers, pretty much all share notes and leaks. Teddy's whole shtick is angry nerd, Regis is the 'jolly fool'. E N G A G M E N T comes in many forms, just treat it like a soap opera and don't try to think too deeply about it

Gully Foyle
Feb 29, 2008

Paladin Titan feels like it's almost there. Feel like it should be changed to a 2/8 - that makes the ability that shrinks enemy minions a far better choice, and it's not like it can attack anyways. Other than that, should be decent. If you have Lightrays to play along side it's gonna be bad for minion based decks without other removal.

Warrior Titan looks good on the outside but I think there will be too many decks that don't really care about it. The random part of the targeting in particular is pretty bad. Think about this thing hitting a divine shield minion. Any kind of wide board is a problem for it, and if your opponent isn't one that cares about minions on board much it becomes clunky. You can't attack face or target a minion with it until the abilities are used up. Sure, after 3 turns you have an 11/11 on board that can then finally do what it wants, but how many decks can't remove one big minion?

Maybe I'm wrong but I think it could have said choose an enemy minion to attack instead of random and it would have been fine without being broken. Look at the Priest Titan - it can choose TWO enemy minions, and then removes them far harder than Khaz'goroth. And then you get to discover another Legendary minion on top of it.

Gully Foyle fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jul 5, 2023

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Gully Foyle posted:

Paladin Titan feels like it's almost there. Feel like it should be changed to a 2/8 - that makes the ability that shrinks enemy minions a far better choice, and it's not like it can attack anyways. Other than that, should be decent. If you have Lightrays to play along side it's gonna be bad for minion based decks without other removal.

Warrior Titan looks good on the outside but I think there will be too many decks that don't really care about it. The random part of the targeting in particular is pretty bad. Think about this thing hitting a divine shield minion. Any kind of wide board is a problem for it, and if your opponent isn't one that cares about minions on board much it becomes clunky. You can't attack face or target a minion with it until the abilities are used up. Sure, after 3 turns you have an 11/11 on board that can then finally do what it wants, but how many decks can't remove one big minion?

Maybe I'm wrong but I think it could have said choose an enemy minion to attack instead of random and it would have been fine without being broken. Look at the Priest Titan - it can choose TWO enemy minions, and then removes them far harder than Khaz'goroth. And then you get to discover another Legendary minion on top of it.

If it had 2 attack, it could be revived by the new paladin legendary. Also, if it had 2 attack, it would basically be a much better Sunkeeper Tarim, and that card was both super good already, and quite obnoxious to play against. I think it's very deliberately kept at 1 attack. And you can buff it's attack with other cards, so to get the Tarim with big upsides, you have to invest additional resources.

Gully Foyle
Feb 29, 2008

Torrannor posted:

If it had 2 attack, it could be revived by the new paladin legendary. Also, if it had 2 attack, it would basically be a much better Sunkeeper Tarim, and that card was both super good already, and quite obnoxious to play against. I think it's very deliberately kept at 1 attack. And you can buff it's attack with other cards, so to get the Tarim with big upsides, you have to invest additional resources.

Fair point on the revive, though I imagine they could just remove Titans from revive pools if they wished (like they are removed from both evolution pools and discover pools already).

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
Which sites are posting Twist decks? I've been using Quest DH as my main one there but they're banning Glide so I'm gonna need some other ideas.

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

skaboomizzy posted:

Which sites are posting Twist decks? I've been using Quest DH as my main one there but they're banning Glide so I'm gonna need some other ideas.

Here's one: https://hearthstone-decks.net/twist-deck/

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

OMFG FURRY posted:

Teddy and Regis, and other streamers, pretty much all share notes and leaks. Teddy's whole shtick is angry nerd, Regis is the 'jolly fool'. E N G A G M E N T comes in many forms, just treat it like a soap opera and don't try to think too deeply about it

Regis' click bait title but the video is pretty fair. He's been rating the cost against only getting one ability off since most of these are KOS when they hit the board.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
He’s just playing the YouTube algorithm game. If you don’t play along your videos will just not get shown to new people, it’s pretty dumb.

fanny packrat
Mar 24, 2018

skaboomizzy posted:

Which sites are posting Twist decks? I've been using Quest DH as my main one there but they're banning Glide so I'm gonna need some other ideas.

D0nkey also lets you filter by game mode. I grabbed a quest Druid list that is undefeated just to bang through the event.

Jolly Jumbuck
Mar 14, 2006

Cats like optical fibers.
I unintentionally got the "On a Roll" achievement for 12 straight wins in Ranked. Several were with my Casino Mage in standard but several were in Twist with this deck.

### Hero Power
# Class: Mage
# Format: Twist
#
# 2x (1) Arcane Artificer
# 2x (1) Wildfire
# 2x (2) Amplified Snowflurry
# 2x (2) Cosmic Keyboard
# 2x (2) Frozen Touch
# 2x (2) Prismatic Elemental
# 2x (2) Solid Alibi
# 2x (3) Frostweave Dungeoneer
# 2x (3) Nightcloak Sanctum
# 2x (4) Cold Case
# 1x (4) Commander Sivara
# 2x (4) Reckless Apprentice
# 1x (4) Varden Dawngrasp
# 2x (4) Volume Up
# 2x (5) Star Power
# 1x (7) Magister Dawngrasp
# 1x (8) Mordresh Fire Eye
#
AAEEAdvwBATY7AOd7gOgigSp3gQN0uwD0+wD1uwDoZIEyt4E294EgpMFhJMFqpgFgMIF8/IF0PgF3vgFAAA=
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp
Twist is a cool format, it's like wild lite or something

Of course a mage doing 43 damage in one turn was not very cool but again, wild lite

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
This is what i've been using for Twist:

### Twist Druid
# Class: Druid
# Format: Twist
#
# 2x (0) Aquatic Form
# 2x (0) Pounce
# 1x (1) Lost in the Park
# 2x (1) Nature Studies
# 2x (1) Peaceful Piper
# 2x (1) Planted Evidence
# 2x (1) Rake
# 2x (2) Groovy Cat
# 2x (2) Harmonic Mood
# 2x (2) Mark of the Spikeshell
# 2x (2) Moonlit Guidance
# 2x (2) Popular Pixie
# 1x (4) Rhythm and Roots
# 2x (4) Spread the Word
# 2x (7) Umbral Owl
# 2x (8) Crypt Keeper
#
AAEEAaa4AwKj9gOr4AUOm84DleADiu0Dr4AEuaAErsAE1t4EtpgF7qMF/N8FguAFkeAFqeAFo+kFAAA=
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp
I've been playing a control pally, don't have the deck list handy which is awesome I know but it's the list with lightforged cariel in it. The other popular decks seem to be implock and quest druid, and those both get beaten by it pretty easily.

Szarrukin
Sep 29, 2021

fanny packrat posted:

I grabbed a quest Druid list that is undefeated

Until you ran into anything with taunts.

fanny packrat
Mar 24, 2018

Szarrukin posted:

Until you ran into anything with taunts.

Beat a beast Druid and paladin without any problem. Beast Druid played sentries on 1, and put down oracle behind two other taunts, and played a matriarch. Paladin did the usual stuff with righteous protector, boogie down, purator, and light rays. But I'm not going to play more now that the event is over, so my unblemished record will stand.

Yestermoment
Jul 27, 2007

Ooooo it's something dirty that hsreplay has twisted decks locked behind premium.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

OMFG FURRY posted:

Teddy and Regis, and other streamers, pretty much all share notes and leaks. Teddy's whole shtick is angry nerd, Regis is the 'jolly fool'. E N G A G M E N T comes in many forms, just treat it like a soap opera and don't try to think too deeply about it

I, thankfully, am old enough I missed out on the brain worms to watch these fuckin' morons. I still wish the whole infrastructure would burn to the ground, though.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

Don't be smug because your brain worms are a different subspecies, your brain is just as infested.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Shockeh posted:

I, thankfully, am old enough I missed out on the brain worms to watch these fuckin' morons. I still wish the whole infrastructure would burn to the ground, though.

Given how frustrated actually playing the game seems to make you, perhaps some low-stakes streamer brain worms is just what you need?

Just a thought ;)

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Yestermoment posted:

Ooooo it's something dirty that hsreplay has twisted decks locked behind premium.

i learned this yesterday and it really pissed me off

Szarrukin
Sep 29, 2021
Thankfully d0nkey.top has twist decks.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

Jeza posted:

Given how frustrated actually playing the game seems to make you, perhaps some low-stakes streamer brain worms is just what you need?

Just a thought ;)

Oh, it’s pure catharsis at how close to an excellent game it is, I promise. There’s no tone intended, just :australia: talking. The game when it’s good (mostly by accident) is such a solid implementation of a CCG/LCG online that by relief it highlights what a fuckup it manages to be some of the rest of the time.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply