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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

theres a pretty cool south korean movie called red shoes and the seven dwarfs thats interesting because its a fairy tale pastiche but its a pastiche of the actual original fairy tales not the disneyfied versions one way you can tell is because hardly anyone in the west knows the red shoes fairy tale because theres no disney movie about it the studio was able to get the korean guy who was the character designer for frozen to do it basically by telling him you can design like dozens of characters which he was really into because by that point disney wasnt even designing new characters anymore so he didnt have much to do anyway

Big Bad Idiot posted:

The american admiration of the british royal family is a consequence of us being fed fairytales of royals for almost a century by the disney corp

i bring it up because this comment made me realize that our whole perception of fairy tales has royalist propaganda hard baked into the concept even though im not sure red shoes and the seven dwarfs has any royal characters at all despite it incorporating the elements of like a dozen completely different fairy tales

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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cops were bad guys in half the movies made in the 70s and 80s op

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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anyway the most important thing you can do is consume the right products, the ones that are important, to society

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

cops are good guys

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

AnimeIsTrash posted:

cops are good guys

true, all the bad cops are just the women cops.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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fish are pretty cool, idk if i need the disney channel to prime me to like fish

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Big Bad Idiot posted:

if media didn't change your behavior they wouldn't spend so much money on advertising

and if you need an overt example look at super size me

Also, before Finding Nemo came out, Disney spent 2 years getting kids ready to accept a fish story. They put "did you know?" fish facts during the ad breaks on disney channel, like "what is the largest fish?" "did you know starfish can regrow their arms?". they made disney channel characters get pet fish and say "this fish is awesome! I love this fish!". They subliminally signaled that fish were always a cool thing that kids like and then the movie was met with no resistence.

The american admiration of the british royal family is a consequence of us being fed fairytales of royals for almost a century by the disney corp

We had Little Mermaid and Spongebob for years before that movie came out though. Kids loved fish forever

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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finally someones talking about the bilderberg group's sinister plan to make kids like colorful creatures

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

true, all the bad cops are just the women cops.

dfudes rock

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

true, all the bad cops are just the women cops.

what about boob cop

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

voyager does have a decent set of episodes, they mostly revolve around seven or the doctor

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

maybe it effects you but I'm different

Gaston is a sans-coulottes revolutionary icon and I knew this at six

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

someone mustve watched :sam: a lot

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Cookie Cutter posted:

Hahaha I didn't know that. Has there ever been someone who openly loathed being in a show as much as Beltran

ha coochie moya

Big Bad Idiot
Jun 27, 2023

by vyelkin

Fried Watermelon posted:

We had Little Mermaid and Spongebob for years before that movie came out though. Kids loved fish forever

this may be the case but disney did do the propaganda thing I'm talking about. are you arguing that it didn't matter or affect their developing minds?

just like how kids in the 90s loved slime, laser swords, ninjas, dinosaurs and trucks that become robot men. Do kids care about these things now? no. they love iron man which 90s kids had but didn't care for. they are changing the programming wake up people

Big Bad Idiot
Jun 27, 2023

by vyelkin
how long has rock and roll been dead

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Some Guy TT posted:

what about boob cop

ok sorry sorry there is one good cop and it's the cop with the gigantic titties.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Big Bad Idiot posted:

how long has rock and roll been dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzY2pWrXB_0

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

like the lady cop from police academy

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

ok sorry sorry there is one good cop and it's the cop with the gigantic titties.

silicone justice

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Gonna rewatch Copland, thanks for the discussion

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

Big Bad Idiot posted:

this may be the case but disney did do the propaganda thing I'm talking about. are you arguing that it didn't matter or affect their developing minds?

just like how kids in the 90s loved slime, laser swords, ninjas, dinosaurs and trucks that become robot men. Do kids care about these things now? no. they love iron man which 90s kids had but didn't care for. they are changing the programming wake up people

People watched Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now and still decided to enlist sorry op your thesis is incorrect

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:

People watched Full Metal Jacket and Apocalypse Now and still decided to enlist sorry op your thesis is incorrect

I mean, a lot of folks we're essentially press ganged into service.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

I mean, a lot of folks we're essentially press ganged into service.

Thats true but absolutely unrelated to the other post and the discussion as a whole

Big Bad Idiot
Jun 27, 2023

by vyelkin
watching a movie and changing their behavior proves my thesis correct

war movies make people want to wage war = I am right

Big Bad Idiot
Jun 27, 2023

by vyelkin
movies exist and behavior exists and I'm just saying the two are sometimes causally related

Big Bad Idiot
Jun 27, 2023

by vyelkin
people want to believe they are randian rational supermen but videodrome is right, TV is reality in the mind's eye. we learn from it just like it was direct experience. and our experiences dictate our conscious thought

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012
Lot of people love the horror and violence of war. Fictional depictions let people frictionlessly identify with whoever is winning at the moment.

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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no i dont think so

Big Bad Idiot
Jun 27, 2023

by vyelkin
"it is impossible for anyone to become sexually aroused looking at porno because I know its just images, my mind can onlu separate the two the illusion is never full" is what you have to believe to disagree with me.

Advertising programs you

fish facts on disney program you

marvel superhero trash programs you

tv made you who you are today

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
maybe it made you but I'm different

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
ok this explains why I think about this television commercial literally six times a day

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_eAX-jQX6o

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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seems like ive got a good thing going with building my model of reality around my irl experiences but good luck with the other thing op

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

I mean, a lot of folks we're essentially press ganged into service.

Nope

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

Big Bad Idiot posted:

"it is impossible for anyone to become sexually aroused looking at porno because I know its just images, my mind can onlu separate the two the illusion is never full" is what you have to believe to disagree with me.

Advertising programs you

fish facts on disney program you

marvel superhero trash programs you

tv made you who you are today

Nope

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
oh. well then. okay.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Bar Crow posted:

Lot of people love the horror and violence of war. Fictional depictions let people frictionlessly identify with whoever is winning at the moment.

war is tight

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Xaris posted:

then again i guess it's not like donglover has anything going on, his music career had a one-hit wonder to this is america song and then uh, flopped big in solo. so a gig is a gig

lol at this post getting dropped in the middle of the vanna white derail

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:

Did nothing wrong. Also, murdered.

Definitely the darkest moment in all of Voyager when he begs for his life and the rest of the crew is like this is wrong and Janeway just goes nah it's murder time

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Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Big Bad Idiot posted:

if cops were bad guys in movies from 1960-present, instead of arabs, queers and black people, it would be a different world

large business owners were bad guys a lot in the 80s and 90s but there's a lot of countervailing propaganda

Trump was the bad guy for several 80's movies including Back to the Future 2 and he got to be president

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