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gradenko_2000 posted:I posted about it on page 1290 That's most of the way there, you are missing Bob Hawke helping the CIA and state department overthrow Whitlam then the financial deregulation when he became prime Minister which set the stage for rothwells to fund BCCI.
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Oh poo poo its exactly what I was looking for: https://twitter.com/iluminatibot/status/1676187454217519104?s=20 If you click that link you WILL end up on a list. No doubts about it. I clicked it immediately, but just a heads up.
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Going to put it on the coffee table for guests?
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Gumball Gumption posted:Going to put it on the coffee table for guests? Now this guy knows how to host a party, I can tell
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honestly work life balance goals; about twice as many sex and drug crimes as business crimes. it's good to see someone break out of the toxic hustle mindset
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E Depois do Adeus posted:Finished Aberration in the Heartland of the Real. My theory: McVeigh was a hosed up mix of all 4 main King of the Hill characters who ended up entering a network of extremist Far Right and anti-government political groups. About a quarter of these groups' members were informants and a few were undercover FBI. True believers or provocateurs (most likely a mix if we think the idea was conceived at Elohim City) came up with the plan to strike back after Waco and Ruby Ridge, and the Feds thus became aware of a bombing plot in the works, specifically one targeting the Murrah building. However, the use of independent cells (let's say, around 12 people total) meant that not all of the informants knew the chosen target - one cell robbed Moore for funds, one cell gathered the materials, one cell built the bomb, but only a few individuals had the full plan. Because of this, even an undercover FBI agent embedded in the conspiracy couldn't give his bosses an accurate time frame. They got the anchor leg team together for the final approach and to collect the bomb from that cell. An agent at this point might've been assured by handlers that the bomb wouldn't detonate. At this time, the Feds, who had been involved in the plot from conception to fundraising to material assistance, realized that there was an assembled truck bomb ready to go, and freaked the gently caress out. They sent EOD teams to the Murrah the morning of the bombing, which they already knew was the probable target, but failed to find anything because it hadn't been dropped off yet, and they don't know the date it's supposed to happen, so they conserve energy for the next day. very cool interpretation of OKC to have come from the statE Depois do Adrtment of the us
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Must be comforting knowing that so many government agencies come within a smidge of stopping various terroist attacks but they always get caught up on various whoopsies.
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gradenko_2000 posted:
I think they're misreading this part by not thinking from the mindset of a criminal. The ruling class always speak in noble "clean"/"legitimate" euphemisms, even to each other with no outsiders to their schemes present. You never know who's eavesdropping. Finney was not unwanted company for Dulles; he was going to be sent there to brief Dulles and clue him in about the real poo poo that couldn't be talked about over the phone. Dulles gets there first, then he gets his assignment. Whatever dark poo poo it was this time. Speaking this way just becomes a part of life when everyone you know is hiding each others' crimes all day. Everyone knows what is really meant.
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maxwellhill posted:I think they're misreading this part by not thinking from the mindset of a criminal. The ruling class always speak in noble "clean"/"legitimate" euphemisms, even to each other with no outsiders to their schemes present. You never know who's eavesdropping. Yeah It's one of those things i feel is hard to explain but at that level a lot of people end up using lanuage in such a way that there is almost always both intended exoteric and esoteric meaning. It's mostly a question of, are you read into the idiom well enough to infer secondary meaning? At least with this stuff it's on the less clever side of that stuff so it's easy to interpret now that we are decades after the fact but makes ya wonder what passes under the noses of credulous people basically nonstop all the time lol
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"Fiscal responsibility" means rob the rubes. "Family values" means blame minorities for it.
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maxwellhill posted:The ruling class always speak in noble "clean"/"legitimate" euphemisms, even to each other with no outsiders to their schemes present. You never know who's eavesdropping. Riot Bimbo posted:It's one of those things i feel is hard to explain but at that level a lot of people end up using lanuage in such a way that there is almost always both intended exoteric and esoteric meaning. It's mostly a question of, are you read into the idiom well enough to infer secondary meaning?  stealth edit: [Epstein] (unintelligible, with noises) the whole, uh, Bay of Pigs thing
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I guess the cocaine in the White House was in a storage cubby for tour visitors
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https://twitter.com/VICE/status/1676697739864702976 AI is MKUltra, confirmed.
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drat I guess the bureau is out of a job
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I don't know who or when posted the @crackconnosseur twitter account but it absolute rules. It's tremendous content
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Jose posted:I don't know who or when posted the @crackconnosseur twitter account but it absolute rules. It's tremendous content jinx is the best. but he hasn’t been doing conspiracy edits as much anymore. he’s horny posting mostly now.
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The_Rob posted:jinx is the best. but he hasn’t been doing conspiracy edits as much anymore. he’s horny posting mostly now. the abyss gazes also into you
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gradenko_2000 posted:
lol. is this nyt?
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gradenko_2000 posted:
he's right though, the CIA definitely did it
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lol this nerd hasn't seen the webm Zapruder proving that it was Jackie O who delivered the killing blow
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rare archival photo of the Warren Commission
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sorry but the secret service doing it on accident it the funniest, and therefore most correct, theory
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I've always felt that the CIA let the attempt go through but didn't think Oswald would actually succeed.
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RandolphCarter posted:sorry but the secret service doing it on accident it the funniest, and therefore most correct, theory All the real cover ups happen after someone fucks up bad so it's this one.
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Also Oswald wanted to kill the Governor, John Connolly. He didn't care about Kennedy, he hated Connolly. He literally wrote in a journal that he was going to kill Connolly and the Warren commission ended up hiding the evidence of his kill list
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John F. Kennedy Didn't Kill Himself
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The obvious thing is Dulles got canned after bay of pigs got revenge with people loyal to him in the cia. Funny enough I did bring up that line to the actor who said the "head just did that"
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rodbeard posted:I've always felt that the CIA let the attempt go through but didn't think Oswald would actually succeed. Yeah, my feeling is that they were psyching him up to kill Gen. Edwin Walker but he hosed that up pretty bad so they didn't give a lot of credence when he started spouting off about Kennedy. My basic reasoning on that is that the CIA has to do a weird scrambling coverup after the Kennedy assassination and it reads to me that they weren't prepared for what happened. Also, as a returned defector, it would be very weird for the intelligence community to not have a bigass file on Oswald and him "slipping through the cracks" and killing Kennedy despite that attention has always been a weird fit. Everything that went on in the aftermath of Kennedy being shot is way more Burn After Reading than James Bond. I don't think they were unhappy that one of their assets killed Kennedy, mind you, it just has all the marks of a bunch of people scrambling, but then I'm one of those weird people who thinks he actually got accidentally domed by the Secret Service because it's the dumbest loving thing so it must be true.
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the secret service loving up is funny but nah, the cia did it. dulles + a large chunk of the cia + a chunk of cuban assets all had motives and means. All the fake poo poo commie and fair play for cuba poo poo that was obviously there to bolster Oswald's credibility as an assassin- to say nothing of ruby's connection to the exact kind of organized crime that wanted back in cuba, and was really mad at the kennedies- there's no goddamn way it's just the secret service bumbling their way into the funniest outcome, and i'm sorry because i want it
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also it's sloppy because the cia is run in the exact way insane dogmatic free market capitalists would run something. This was especially so back then. It's about throwing money at a problem and watching a bunch of semi-autonomous cells who are accountable to basically no one scramble to get the job done. In the consolidation of "what happened" after the fact, there are tons of weird loose threads because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, hth
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaGEmMCGLBU Love that the concert is now a generic peace concert instead of one specifically supporting a leftist anti-colonialist government. Probably won't mention the thugs that tried to kill him were sent by the CIA either.
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Azathoth posted:Yeah, my feeling is that they were psyching him up to kill Gen. Edwin Walker but he hosed that up pretty bad so they didn't give a lot of credence when he started spouting off about Kennedy. wrong, cia did it. dulles was a messy bitch and had to get back at jfk after being publicly sidelined oswald was super obviously a patsy
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